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  • I Ilion

    But, has this truth[^] come out in time? By the way, anyone who is actually shocked at what Melanie Phillips is discussing simply hasn't been paying attention (likely refused to). MailOnline: 'Dishonest' Blair and Straw accused over secret plan for multicultural UK[^]

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    Surely someone with your massive "intellect" can now see why the Daily Mail is so parodied over here in the UK? Oh hang on a min - you've taken it seriously haven't you!...Not sure which is more amusing :) Welcome back btw - where HAVE you been?

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      Surely someone with your massive "intellect" can now see why the Daily Mail is so parodied over here in the UK? Oh hang on a min - you've taken it seriously haven't you!...Not sure which is more amusing :) Welcome back btw - where HAVE you been?

      C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.

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      RichardGrimmer wrote:

      Oh hang on a min - you've taken it seriously haven't you!

      What! You mean it's not to be taken seriously?

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        But, has this truth[^] come out in time? By the way, anyone who is actually shocked at what Melanie Phillips is discussing simply hasn't been paying attention (likely refused to). MailOnline: 'Dishonest' Blair and Straw accused over secret plan for multicultural UK[^]

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        Ahh there's nothing like pandering to the rascists to distract from the fact that both the main political parties had conferences recently and niether of them discussed a single policy. They just talked about their differences implementing the same policy. You know the one where all the services get cut so that we can give all the money to the banks.

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          Ahh there's nothing like pandering to the rascists to distract from the fact that both the main political parties had conferences recently and niether of them discussed a single policy. They just talked about their differences implementing the same policy. You know the one where all the services get cut so that we can give all the money to the banks.

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          pseudonym67 wrote:

          Ahh there's nothing like pandering to the rascists to distract from ...

          There's nothing like shouting "racist!" to distract attention from a very real problem which isn't going to just go away.

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            Surely someone with your massive "intellect" can now see why the Daily Mail is so parodied over here in the UK? Oh hang on a min - you've taken it seriously haven't you!...Not sure which is more amusing :) Welcome back btw - where HAVE you been?

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            RichardGrimmer wrote:

            Surely someone with your massive "intellect" can now see why the Daily Mail is so parodied over here in the UK?

            Attempting to flatter me (and sooo transparently, at that) doesn't do you a bit of good. What you need to do is pull you head out of the sand, or where ever it is that you've stuffed it, open you eyes and *see* what's been right in front of you for most of your life.

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              pseudonym67 wrote:

              Ahh there's nothing like pandering to the rascists to distract from ...

              There's nothing like shouting "racist!" to distract attention from a very real problem which isn't going to just go away.

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              It was done to destroy for ever what it means to be culturally British and to put another 'multicultural' identity in its place. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4cXeETX But the most shattering revelation was that this policy of mass immigration was not introduced to produce nannies or cleaners for the likes of Neather. It was to destroy Britain's identity and transform it into a multicultural society where British attributes would have no greater status than any other country's. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4ckByXM Nope no appealling to lowest common denominator there at all none. Actually the continued alienation of the white working class in England is not due to the immigration it is due to the successive policies of both the conservatives and labour to drive the country to a financial footing which has destroyed the traditional employer of these people the manufacturing base. The immigrants dont help the situation in their willingness to take low paid cash in hand jobs which business loves, pretty much like the Mexican thing in the us. Businiess encourages them to come here so that they can pay low wages and not have to worry about treating their employees properly. Of course this is done through a network of employment agencies so that businesses can deny all knowledge of who they actually employ. If you want to put this theory to the test try to find a cleaner in the city of London whose first language is English.

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                It was done to destroy for ever what it means to be culturally British and to put another 'multicultural' identity in its place. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4cXeETX But the most shattering revelation was that this policy of mass immigration was not introduced to produce nannies or cleaners for the likes of Neather. It was to destroy Britain's identity and transform it into a multicultural society where British attributes would have no greater status than any other country's. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4ckByXM Nope no appealling to lowest common denominator there at all none. Actually the continued alienation of the white working class in England is not due to the immigration it is due to the successive policies of both the conservatives and labour to drive the country to a financial footing which has destroyed the traditional employer of these people the manufacturing base. The immigrants dont help the situation in their willingness to take low paid cash in hand jobs which business loves, pretty much like the Mexican thing in the us. Businiess encourages them to come here so that they can pay low wages and not have to worry about treating their employees properly. Of course this is done through a network of employment agencies so that businesses can deny all knowledge of who they actually employ. If you want to put this theory to the test try to find a cleaner in the city of London whose first language is English.

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                This lady, IMO, is something of an obnoxious individual, but apparently loved by the Americans. See here and, if you wish, follow some of the links http://www.wikio.co.uk/news/Melanie+Phillips[^]

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                  It was done to destroy for ever what it means to be culturally British and to put another 'multicultural' identity in its place. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4cXeETX But the most shattering revelation was that this policy of mass immigration was not introduced to produce nannies or cleaners for the likes of Neather. It was to destroy Britain's identity and transform it into a multicultural society where British attributes would have no greater status than any other country's. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4ckByXM Nope no appealling to lowest common denominator there at all none. Actually the continued alienation of the white working class in England is not due to the immigration it is due to the successive policies of both the conservatives and labour to drive the country to a financial footing which has destroyed the traditional employer of these people the manufacturing base. The immigrants dont help the situation in their willingness to take low paid cash in hand jobs which business loves, pretty much like the Mexican thing in the us. Businiess encourages them to come here so that they can pay low wages and not have to worry about treating their employees properly. Of course this is done through a network of employment agencies so that businesses can deny all knowledge of who they actually employ. If you want to put this theory to the test try to find a cleaner in the city of London whose first language is English.

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                  Its all about subversion. The amazing thing about it is that it is happening on a global scale, and its not a coincidence.

                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                    Its all about subversion. The amazing thing about it is that it is happening on a global scale, and its not a coincidence.

                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                    Christian Graus
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                    The amazing thing is that conspiracy nuts can see patterns where they don't exist.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      RichardGrimmer wrote:

                      Oh hang on a min - you've taken it seriously haven't you!

                      What! You mean it's not to be taken seriously?

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                      Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                      What! You mean it's not to be taken seriously?

                      Reminds me of the line from Mock The Week....all headlines in the Mail (and the Express for that matter) can be replaced with "There's queers, immigrants and terrorist EVERYWHERE....oh if only Diana were here!"...

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                        It was done to destroy for ever what it means to be culturally British and to put another 'multicultural' identity in its place. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4cXeETX But the most shattering revelation was that this policy of mass immigration was not introduced to produce nannies or cleaners for the likes of Neather. It was to destroy Britain's identity and transform it into a multicultural society where British attributes would have no greater status than any other country's. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4ckByXM Nope no appealling to lowest common denominator there at all none. Actually the continued alienation of the white working class in England is not due to the immigration it is due to the successive policies of both the conservatives and labour to drive the country to a financial footing which has destroyed the traditional employer of these people the manufacturing base. The immigrants dont help the situation in their willingness to take low paid cash in hand jobs which business loves, pretty much like the Mexican thing in the us. Businiess encourages them to come here so that they can pay low wages and not have to worry about treating their employees properly. Of course this is done through a network of employment agencies so that businesses can deny all knowledge of who they actually employ. If you want to put this theory to the test try to find a cleaner in the city of London whose first language is English.

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                        Ilion
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                        There is no such thing as 'business,' just as there is no such thing as 'the government' (or 'society,' for that matter). These are abstractions, they're imaginary persons/actors. It isn't "business" (by which is generally mean *all* businessmen) which is for importing ceap labor, it is *some* businessmen (and these individualstend to be socially and politically "liberal"). And, it isn't "the government" -- that faceless entity which allows decision-makers to avoid proper credit for their decisions -- which is for replacing the people of the weatern nations with "multicultural" aliens (and concurrently teaching those aliens to remain forever alien), it is *some* politicians and bureaucrats and think-tankers and academics and other such who know that they are the annointed elite (and these individuals tend to be socially and politically "liberal"). The problem isn't so much the aliens being imported, it's the "liberals" who wish to destroy our societies, and it's the willfully blind persons who refuse to see what is going on.

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                          The amazing thing is that conspiracy nuts can see patterns where they don't exist.

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          The amazing thing is that conspiracy nuts can see patterns where they don't exist.

                          The *really* amazing thing is that intellectually dishonest hypocrites like you use that as the excuse for refusing to see the patterns that are there.

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                            But, has this truth[^] come out in time? By the way, anyone who is actually shocked at what Melanie Phillips is discussing simply hasn't been paying attention (likely refused to). MailOnline: 'Dishonest' Blair and Straw accused over secret plan for multicultural UK[^]

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                            Don't worry, we already know that you're gay.

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                              Don't worry, we already know that you're gay.

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                              Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                              Don't worry, we already know that you're gay.

                              :rolleyes: You keep hoping, don't you? When you you going to get it into your head that I'm just not interested in anything you have on offer?

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                                Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                Don't worry, we already know that you're gay.

                                :rolleyes: You keep hoping, don't you? When you you going to get it into your head that I'm just not interested in anything you have on offer?

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                                Hoping? There's no need to hope when you're so overtly homosexual.

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                                  There is no such thing as 'business,' just as there is no such thing as 'the government' (or 'society,' for that matter). These are abstractions, they're imaginary persons/actors. It isn't "business" (by which is generally mean *all* businessmen) which is for importing ceap labor, it is *some* businessmen (and these individualstend to be socially and politically "liberal"). And, it isn't "the government" -- that faceless entity which allows decision-makers to avoid proper credit for their decisions -- which is for replacing the people of the weatern nations with "multicultural" aliens (and concurrently teaching those aliens to remain forever alien), it is *some* politicians and bureaucrats and think-tankers and academics and other such who know that they are the annointed elite (and these individuals tend to be socially and politically "liberal"). The problem isn't so much the aliens being imported, it's the "liberals" who wish to destroy our societies, and it's the willfully blind persons who refuse to see what is going on.

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                                  Ilíon wrote:

                                  it's the "liberals"

                                  American Liberalism or British Liberalism, they are not quite the same you know. Am I still No.4 on your list or have I been since promoted or demoted :laugh: :laugh:

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    The amazing thing is that conspiracy nuts can see patterns where they don't exist.

                                    The *really* amazing thing is that intellectually dishonest hypocrites like you use that as the excuse for refusing to see the patterns that are there.

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                                    Ilíon wrote:

                                    intellectually dishonest

                                    Yawn...rolling that old chestnut out again are we....how predictable

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                                      There is no such thing as 'business,' just as there is no such thing as 'the government' (or 'society,' for that matter). These are abstractions, they're imaginary persons/actors. It isn't "business" (by which is generally mean *all* businessmen) which is for importing ceap labor, it is *some* businessmen (and these individualstend to be socially and politically "liberal"). And, it isn't "the government" -- that faceless entity which allows decision-makers to avoid proper credit for their decisions -- which is for replacing the people of the weatern nations with "multicultural" aliens (and concurrently teaching those aliens to remain forever alien), it is *some* politicians and bureaucrats and think-tankers and academics and other such who know that they are the annointed elite (and these individuals tend to be socially and politically "liberal"). The problem isn't so much the aliens being imported, it's the "liberals" who wish to destroy our societies, and it's the willfully blind persons who refuse to see what is going on.

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                                      There is of course, by your own argument no such thing as liberals. Oh and if your not prepared to talk to people using the recognised and well understood terms of conversation and identification of the social structures that human societies use you should go sit in the corner with the dunces hat on until you're prepared to talk in grown ups language.

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                                        This lady, IMO, is something of an obnoxious individual, but apparently loved by the Americans. See here and, if you wish, follow some of the links http://www.wikio.co.uk/news/Melanie+Phillips[^]

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                                        ewwww!!!! I think she just got my brain dirty. :(

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                                          Ilíon wrote:

                                          it's the "liberals"

                                          American Liberalism or British Liberalism, they are not quite the same you know. Am I still No.4 on your list or have I been since promoted or demoted :laugh: :laugh:

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                                          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                          Ilíon: it's the "liberals" Richard A. Abbott: American Liberalism or British Liberalism, they are not quite the same you know.

                                          You even quoted what I wrote ... but, of course, just don't pay attention.

                                          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                          Am I still No.4 on your list or have I been since promoted or demoted :laugh: :laugh:

                                          I don't really take you kiddies seriously enough to expend any effort to remember such things. The numbering was strictly in order of appearance (or, at any rate, of my noticing) of you "community/family" types who were unable to resist posting here even after you'd all flounced off to your private Idaho.

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