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  • 1 1 21 Gigawatts

    I get called a "keyboard monkey". It makes me cry. :((

    "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs." ~ Anon "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein Currently reading: 'The Greatest Show on Earth', by Richard Dawkins.

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    Henry Minute
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    Never mind.:rose: You ignore those rough boys. Oh, and here, have a Banana.

    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      "Digital Ninja" for me.


      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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      Gandalf_TheWhite
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      Nagy Vilmos wrote:

      "Digital Ninja"

      :cool: Awesome You have a fertile mind ;)

      Believe Yourself™

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        Never mind.:rose: You ignore those rough boys. Oh, and here, have a Banana.

        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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        1 21 Gigawatts
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        :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( MUMMY!!!

        "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs." ~ Anon "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein Currently reading: 'The Greatest Show on Earth', by Richard Dawkins.

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          "Digital Ninja" for me.


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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          CPallini
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          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          "Digital Ninja" for me.

          Nah, that was when you were Mouton Rothschild powered by. Now you're 'coder'. :laugh:

          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
          [My articles]

          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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          • I Ian Shlasko

            Do you fight Digital Pirates?

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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            Nagy Vilmos
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            Pirates vs Ninjas is a very specialised operation.


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              "Digital Ninja" for me.


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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              OriginalGriff
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              I did once have : "Section leader who couldn't be bothered to think up a pretentious name for his section, but who wanted a long job title to annoy the personnel department when the time came to have the business cards printed." It worked, too.

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              • L LimitedAtonement

                Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.

                In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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                Mario Luis
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                Pretty much what everyone else says. A Developer develops. They take concepts and ideas and formulate them into systems, processes and code. Programmers just basicaly code, normally to a spec. Don't think round the box or the consequances of a problem. Everyone starts as a programer :D but only some become true developers.

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                • P peterchen

                  programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code

                  Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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                  Rage
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                  :-D C'est bonnet blanc et blanc bonnet. and coder = converts pizza into code, and used printed requirements/specifications as scratch paper, or for cleaning desk from lost pizza pieces. hacker = can convert anything into anything. Especially in movies. With blinking progress bars and screens full of quick scrolling figures that freeze on the search result.

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                    programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code

                    Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                    | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server

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                    peterchen wrote:

                    programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code

                    programmer = converts specification and pizza into code. developer = converts requirements and pizza into code. architect = converts requirements and nail varnish into specifications. FFY. :)

                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                    [My articles]

                    In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                      programmer = converts specification and pizza into code developer = converts requirements and pizza into code

                      Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                      | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server

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                      Don't forget the coffee/caffeinated soft drink. Requirements conversion requires lots of liquid caffeine.

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                        Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                        In my country “Designer” is synonym of “Gay”

                        Ohhh!! :omg: and which country?

                        Believe Yourself™

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                        Bulgaria.

                        The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                          Don't forget the coffee/caffeinated soft drink. Requirements conversion requires lots of liquid caffeine.

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                          What thso world needs is coffeinated pizza!

                          Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                          | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server

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                            Don't forget the coffee/caffeinated soft drink. Requirements conversion requires lots of liquid caffeine.

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                            Stuart Jeffery
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                            I find that regulating the amount of blood in my caffeine stream is the most important activity. Speaking of which, think I need to change the IV drip for a new bag-o-caff.

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                              I find that regulating the amount of blood in my caffeine stream is the most important activity. Speaking of which, think I need to change the IV drip for a new bag-o-caff.

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                              Stuart Jeffery wrote:

                              I find that regulating the amount of blood in my caffeine stream is the most important activity.

                              I agree. :)

                              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                              [My articles]

                              In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                Pirates vs Ninjas is a very specialised operation.


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                Single Step Debugger
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                                It’s also very messy considering nunchakos versus cannons.

                                The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                • L LimitedAtonement

                                  Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.

                                  In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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                                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                    Then there's the whole "Architect" title, which is just a fancy way of saying "Designer,"

                                    In my country “Designer” is synonym of “Gay”. So, do we have any Architects here? :-D

                                    The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                    Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                    In my country “Designer” is synonym of “Gay”.

                                    There, it reads much better now.

                                    “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                                      Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.

                                      In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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                                      Joe Woodbury
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                                      I don't think there's a bit of difference except in the minds of our paymasters for whom we adjust our titles to maximize our perceived utility. Computer Programmer Software Developer Software Engineer All the same. I actually prefer Computer Programmer since a) non-computer people know what your talking about and b) it doesn't sound pretentious. However, I've learned that managers like the title Software Engineer since it sounds important, so I use it. (In some places Software Architect sounds even more important though I shun it since I know too many horrible engineers/developers/programmers for whom this is a refuge from their suckiness.)

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                                        Pretty much what everyone else says. A Developer develops. They take concepts and ideas and formulate them into systems, processes and code. Programmers just basicaly code, normally to a spec. Don't think round the box or the consequances of a problem. Everyone starts as a programer :D but only some become true developers.

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                                        When Donald Knuth was asked this question some 13 years ago, his response was: The difference between a computer programmer and a computer scientist is a job-title thing. Edsgar Dijkstra wants proudly to be called a ‘computer programmer,’ although he hasn’t touched a computer now for some years. He wrote his really terrific essay on the Humble Programmer discussing this. To me, ‘computer programmer’ is an honorable term, but to some people a computer programmer is somebody who just follows instructions without understanding what he’s doing, one who just knows how to get through the idiosyncrasies of some language.

                                        "Old age is like a bank account. You withdraw later in life what you have deposited along the way." - Unknown

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                                        • L LimitedAtonement

                                          Dear Sirs, I see this forboding warning up top "DO NOT POST PROGRAMMING QUESTIONS HERE," so I will warily proceed. If I were to think of a title for myself, why might I choose `Developer' over `Programmer' or vice versa? What do they mean? More than their denotation, what do they connote? Thanks.

                                          In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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                                          LimitedAtonement
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                                          Dear Sirs, Thanks for your replies! Now I know what to put on my card:

                                          Software Developer, Architect, Engineer, Designer, and Programmer

                                          Because I not only have to manage the small aspects of my code (programming), but I also write my own algorithms, and I manage the design of the programs at the largest scale. Thanks especially for the puns, I can't get enough of them!

                                          In Christ, Aaron Laws http://ProCure.com

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