The Oath Keepers
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Michael Moore is a moron.
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He may be intelligent by your standards, but he is a moron by any other standard.
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He may be intelligent by your standards, but he is a moron by any other standard.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He may be intelligent by your standards, but he is a moron by any other standard.
Well lets think about it, he has a message to push as do you. How many people world wide know your name or have heard your message? Same goes for Alex Jones, I suspect he's unheard of outside of the US and even then probably largely unknown outside of the moronic conspiracy theory circles. My point is not a value judgment of his message but of his ability to have it heard. Anyway what you think of him is unimportant. My point was about these oath keepers being comparable in some sense to the Michigan militia as presented in his film.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He may be intelligent by your standards, but he is a moron by any other standard.
Well lets think about it, he has a message to push as do you. How many people world wide know your name or have heard your message? Same goes for Alex Jones, I suspect he's unheard of outside of the US and even then probably largely unknown outside of the moronic conspiracy theory circles. My point is not a value judgment of his message but of his ability to have it heard. Anyway what you think of him is unimportant. My point was about these oath keepers being comparable in some sense to the Michigan militia as presented in his film.
Josh Gray wrote:
he has a message to push as do you.
Not by a long shot. Mine and moron's messages are as different as night and day.
Josh Gray wrote:
Alex Jones, I suspect he's unheard of outside of the US
Alex Jones is known well outside of the states. When he held a contest for the best video entry of people putting up obama joker posters, people from all over the world (japan, europe, austraila, canada, mexico) went wild at it. He has a large and diverse listener base, and an ever larger and more diverse set of regulars who visit his websites, and EVEN LARGER number of people who have watched his documentaries. Besides, it isn't the number of people who listen to him, its what he says. Listen to his show right now. http://www.infowars.com/infowars.asx[^] He had Webster Tarply on today, you will hear him in the last hour. Tarply has a PhD in economics and a PhD in history. His show isn't about conspiracy theories its about fact and reality.
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Josh Gray wrote:
he has a message to push as do you.
Not by a long shot. Mine and moron's messages are as different as night and day.
Josh Gray wrote:
Alex Jones, I suspect he's unheard of outside of the US
Alex Jones is known well outside of the states. When he held a contest for the best video entry of people putting up obama joker posters, people from all over the world (japan, europe, austraila, canada, mexico) went wild at it. He has a large and diverse listener base, and an ever larger and more diverse set of regulars who visit his websites, and EVEN LARGER number of people who have watched his documentaries. Besides, it isn't the number of people who listen to him, its what he says. Listen to his show right now. http://www.infowars.com/infowars.asx[^] He had Webster Tarply on today, you will hear him in the last hour. Tarply has a PhD in economics and a PhD in history. His show isn't about conspiracy theories its about fact and reality.
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Josh Gray wrote:
he has a message to push as do you.
Not by a long shot. Mine and moron's messages are as different as night and day.
Josh Gray wrote:
Alex Jones, I suspect he's unheard of outside of the US
Alex Jones is known well outside of the states. When he held a contest for the best video entry of people putting up obama joker posters, people from all over the world (japan, europe, austraila, canada, mexico) went wild at it. He has a large and diverse listener base, and an ever larger and more diverse set of regulars who visit his websites, and EVEN LARGER number of people who have watched his documentaries. Besides, it isn't the number of people who listen to him, its what he says. Listen to his show right now. http://www.infowars.com/infowars.asx[^] He had Webster Tarply on today, you will hear him in the last hour. Tarply has a PhD in economics and a PhD in history. His show isn't about conspiracy theories its about fact and reality.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Mine and moron's messages are as different as night and day.
That is not the point. the point is, who knows about your 'message' apart from some geeks who enjoy laughing at it ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Alex Jones is known well outside of the states.
In the same way that I am well known. I know a lot of people, for one person, in a lot of different places. But, I am hardly famous. So 2 people in Japan and one in Zimbabe have heard of him. He's still obscure, like his crackpot theories.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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He is only allowed to say what his commanders allow him or command him to say.
Then how can you judge him on his words ? I do love how little girly men like you, who are scared to even leave the house, judge the actions of someone brave enough to put themselves in harms way for your benefit. Right or wrong, they have more balls than you or I and neither of us has the right to second guess them without ever walking in their shoes
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Mine and moron's messages are as different as night and day.
That is not the point. the point is, who knows about your 'message' apart from some geeks who enjoy laughing at it ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Alex Jones is known well outside of the states.
In the same way that I am well known. I know a lot of people, for one person, in a lot of different places. But, I am hardly famous. So 2 people in Japan and one in Zimbabe have heard of him. He's still obscure, like his crackpot theories.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
some geeks who enjoy laughing
HEY... I resemble that remark!
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Christian Graus wrote:
some geeks who enjoy laughing
HEY... I resemble that remark!
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! Booger Mobile (n) - A bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - our entry into the Camp Quality esCarpade!! Do something wonderful - make a donation to Camp Quality today!!
*grin* boring here in the QANTAS lounge.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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*grin* boring here in the QANTAS lounge.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Yeah, figured it must be... at least you can kick back and relax for a few hours on your flight... depending on whether you sleep on planes or not I guess... Personally I never sleep when I'm travelling, much to the delight of my passengers!! rofl...
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! Booger Mobile (n) - A bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - our entry into the Camp Quality esCarpade!! Do something wonderful - make a donation to Camp Quality today!!
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Yeah, figured it must be... at least you can kick back and relax for a few hours on your flight... depending on whether you sleep on planes or not I guess... Personally I never sleep when I'm travelling, much to the delight of my passengers!! rofl...
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! Booger Mobile (n) - A bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - our entry into the Camp Quality esCarpade!! Do something wonderful - make a donation to Camp Quality today!!
I take Melatonin, and I always get a few hours. I've actually gone business and still only got 3, but 6 is probably the most I'll get in economy ( and that would be a real achievement )
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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He doesn't even know what he is talking about. He is saying that if he had a gun pointed to his head he would do as he is told no matter what to stay alive regardless of the consequences. He is not an honorable soldier.
"ragnaroknrol is dishonerable..." Assuming this was true, I assume he is at least not as dumb as toast, and can spell.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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He doesn't even know what he is talking about. He is saying that if he had a gun pointed to his head he would do as he is told no matter what to stay alive regardless of the consequences. He is not an honorable soldier.
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Or he could be pointing out that given the choice between disarming a militia and letting them kill civilians, there's a clear cut choice that you would refuse to make under that oath. And a 25% failure rate for basic human decency seems about right.
Let's not forget the good old "Looters will be shot on sight" concept especially if The Big One was to visit LA or SF. I'm sure that Governor Arnie wouldn't hesitate one moment to give such an instruction irrespective of the opinion or commitment of those "Oath Keepers". Law and order will be maintained.
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He doesn't even know what he is talking about. He is saying that if he had a gun pointed to his head he would do as he is told no matter what to stay alive regardless of the consequences. He is not an honorable soldier.
Alright moron, I am done with you. I know people that were in humvees on patrol when a kid paid $5US threw a grenade into the back. How do they know this? When the docs at the civilian hospital got the kid with a bullet in his gut they asked him. Some men offered him the money to throw the grenade at the people and he took it. It cost him a foot and a half of small intestine. He was lucky. It cost a soldier an eye, and the guy that was throwing it out when it went off his arm and destroyed a good part of his leg. One of those soldiers shot the kid without thinking because they registered that the grenade was thrown by him so he was suddenly an enemy. That same guy committed suicide a year later because the kid had died of complications. What the eff do you know about illegal orders? You get put into a situation where you take someone in, arrest them, and they explode killing your buddy. Where you take prisoners and they come back a month later killing more buddies and it doesn't stop what do you think happens? You stop taking prisoners. If every time you open a door it has a booby trap you are going to stop kicking those doors open and just shoot through it. If there happens to be an innocent family behind the door this time, well, that sucked, didn't it? Now you have this guilt eating away at you and when you get home suicide is a lot more likely. This is what those people put themselves into. How about you "captain?" You believe the constitution needs to be saved? How about you put a uniform on and go defend it? How about you put your life and sanity at risk instead of calling people that did put their time in? Honorable soldiers are what we all strive to be. Reality happens to kick you in the nuts then sodomize you for trying to be. Put a soldier in the line of fire and they do what they are trained to do, survive, fight, kill. We hesitate, people die and it may not even be us, it could be the guy that ran through fire last month to yank our asses out of a position after we were wounded. None of us want to cause our friends to die, so we make calls that may not be considered legal in a vaccum. But we do it to survive. You want to tell everyone how horrible the politicians and people making orders at the top are, fine. You want to tell people the soldiers are dishonorable, fine, you have that right. THEY DIED LETTING YOU HAVE IT. But do not think for a moment that you deserve to be considered their equal. These men and women have lost pieces of their souls and sometim
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Alright moron, I am done with you. I know people that were in humvees on patrol when a kid paid $5US threw a grenade into the back. How do they know this? When the docs at the civilian hospital got the kid with a bullet in his gut they asked him. Some men offered him the money to throw the grenade at the people and he took it. It cost him a foot and a half of small intestine. He was lucky. It cost a soldier an eye, and the guy that was throwing it out when it went off his arm and destroyed a good part of his leg. One of those soldiers shot the kid without thinking because they registered that the grenade was thrown by him so he was suddenly an enemy. That same guy committed suicide a year later because the kid had died of complications. What the eff do you know about illegal orders? You get put into a situation where you take someone in, arrest them, and they explode killing your buddy. Where you take prisoners and they come back a month later killing more buddies and it doesn't stop what do you think happens? You stop taking prisoners. If every time you open a door it has a booby trap you are going to stop kicking those doors open and just shoot through it. If there happens to be an innocent family behind the door this time, well, that sucked, didn't it? Now you have this guilt eating away at you and when you get home suicide is a lot more likely. This is what those people put themselves into. How about you "captain?" You believe the constitution needs to be saved? How about you put a uniform on and go defend it? How about you put your life and sanity at risk instead of calling people that did put their time in? Honorable soldiers are what we all strive to be. Reality happens to kick you in the nuts then sodomize you for trying to be. Put a soldier in the line of fire and they do what they are trained to do, survive, fight, kill. We hesitate, people die and it may not even be us, it could be the guy that ran through fire last month to yank our asses out of a position after we were wounded. None of us want to cause our friends to die, so we make calls that may not be considered legal in a vaccum. But we do it to survive. You want to tell everyone how horrible the politicians and people making orders at the top are, fine. You want to tell people the soldiers are dishonorable, fine, you have that right. THEY DIED LETTING YOU HAVE IT. But do not think for a moment that you deserve to be considered their equal. These men and women have lost pieces of their souls and sometim
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Alright moron, I am done with you. I know people that were in humvees on patrol when a kid paid $5US threw a grenade into the back. How do they know this? When the docs at the civilian hospital got the kid with a bullet in his gut they asked him. Some men offered him the money to throw the grenade at the people and he took it. It cost him a foot and a half of small intestine. He was lucky. It cost a soldier an eye, and the guy that was throwing it out when it went off his arm and destroyed a good part of his leg. One of those soldiers shot the kid without thinking because they registered that the grenade was thrown by him so he was suddenly an enemy. That same guy committed suicide a year later because the kid had died of complications. What the eff do you know about illegal orders? You get put into a situation where you take someone in, arrest them, and they explode killing your buddy. Where you take prisoners and they come back a month later killing more buddies and it doesn't stop what do you think happens? You stop taking prisoners. If every time you open a door it has a booby trap you are going to stop kicking those doors open and just shoot through it. If there happens to be an innocent family behind the door this time, well, that sucked, didn't it? Now you have this guilt eating away at you and when you get home suicide is a lot more likely. This is what those people put themselves into. How about you "captain?" You believe the constitution needs to be saved? How about you put a uniform on and go defend it? How about you put your life and sanity at risk instead of calling people that did put their time in? Honorable soldiers are what we all strive to be. Reality happens to kick you in the nuts then sodomize you for trying to be. Put a soldier in the line of fire and they do what they are trained to do, survive, fight, kill. We hesitate, people die and it may not even be us, it could be the guy that ran through fire last month to yank our asses out of a position after we were wounded. None of us want to cause our friends to die, so we make calls that may not be considered legal in a vaccum. But we do it to survive. You want to tell everyone how horrible the politicians and people making orders at the top are, fine. You want to tell people the soldiers are dishonorable, fine, you have that right. THEY DIED LETTING YOU HAVE IT. But do not think for a moment that you deserve to be considered their equal. These men and women have lost pieces of their souls and sometim
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Or he could be pointing out that given the choice between disarming a militia and letting them kill civilians, there's a clear cut choice that you would refuse to make under that oath. And a 25% failure rate for basic human decency seems about right.
You are a fucking moron. The militia are the citizens. Get educated. There are over 90 million gun owners in America, they ARE the militia. Again, you are not an American.
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Alright moron, I am done with you. I know people that were in humvees on patrol when a kid paid $5US threw a grenade into the back. How do they know this? When the docs at the civilian hospital got the kid with a bullet in his gut they asked him. Some men offered him the money to throw the grenade at the people and he took it. It cost him a foot and a half of small intestine. He was lucky. It cost a soldier an eye, and the guy that was throwing it out when it went off his arm and destroyed a good part of his leg. One of those soldiers shot the kid without thinking because they registered that the grenade was thrown by him so he was suddenly an enemy. That same guy committed suicide a year later because the kid had died of complications. What the eff do you know about illegal orders? You get put into a situation where you take someone in, arrest them, and they explode killing your buddy. Where you take prisoners and they come back a month later killing more buddies and it doesn't stop what do you think happens? You stop taking prisoners. If every time you open a door it has a booby trap you are going to stop kicking those doors open and just shoot through it. If there happens to be an innocent family behind the door this time, well, that sucked, didn't it? Now you have this guilt eating away at you and when you get home suicide is a lot more likely. This is what those people put themselves into. How about you "captain?" You believe the constitution needs to be saved? How about you put a uniform on and go defend it? How about you put your life and sanity at risk instead of calling people that did put their time in? Honorable soldiers are what we all strive to be. Reality happens to kick you in the nuts then sodomize you for trying to be. Put a soldier in the line of fire and they do what they are trained to do, survive, fight, kill. We hesitate, people die and it may not even be us, it could be the guy that ran through fire last month to yank our asses out of a position after we were wounded. None of us want to cause our friends to die, so we make calls that may not be considered legal in a vaccum. But we do it to survive. You want to tell everyone how horrible the politicians and people making orders at the top are, fine. You want to tell people the soldiers are dishonorable, fine, you have that right. THEY DIED LETTING YOU HAVE IT. But do not think for a moment that you deserve to be considered their equal. These men and women have lost pieces of their souls and sometim
1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people. 2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people 3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal. 4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state. 5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty. 6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps. 7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext. 8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control." 9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies. 10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances. Now if you do any of these things to Americans, then you become the enemy. If you fight a war against Americans, you may win many battles, but you will loose the war. Just like in 1776.
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Its going to get publicity whether you like it or not.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its going to get publicity
First of all, you're missing an apostrophe. Next up, Britney getting her baps and meat out gets a lot of press too, does that make it 'good' and 'right'? You really are a feck head!
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