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  • N Nagy Vilmos

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    You feel very small minded I'm sure, like how a small child views the world

    And how many children have you got? Have you spent a consioderably time with a child recently? The last thing a small child is going to do is beleive something just because it's on youtube. there is a 'great' game that kids play called 'why'. When the mood takes they will ask 'why?' to any statement and why to the answer and so on. The reason for this behaviour is their inherent open minded approach to life. They are yet to be conditioned into mindtraps [a concept above you, go google if you want to try and understand.] that prevent them from asking the questions. As we go through life, more and more answers are presented and we begin to adjust our minds to see the underlying answers to most, not all, behaviour. This is the reason that when presented with events outside our mental framework, adults will ask the question 'Why?'. The question I ask you is 'Why do you believe there is a conspiracy?' Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism.


    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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    Conspiracy...[^]

    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEPGuSEoQo0[^]

      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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      So this was a false flag video made by the government to make a segment of people look like drooling idiots?

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        You are lost, the bottle of alcohol is to your left.

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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        Dalek Dave
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        No, My large salary cheque is to my left, the bottle is in front of me. Now, hurry up with those pizzas Mr Thickie!

        ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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          Conspiracy...[^]

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          You are stupid, you really are:

          Nagy Vilmos wrote:

          Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism

          And your link

          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          Conspiracy...[^]

          Can you read? Do you understand what you read?


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            You are stupid, you really are:

            Nagy Vilmos wrote:

            Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism

            And your link

            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            Conspiracy...[^]

            Can you read? Do you understand what you read?


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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            Look up climate-gate.

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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              Look up climate-gate.

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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              Look up the phrase "in your own words" Fail.

              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                Look up climate-gate.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                Nagy_Vilmos wrote:

                You are stupid, you really are: Nagy Vilmos wrote: Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism And your link CaptainSeeSharp wrote: Conspiracy...[^] Can you read? Do you understand what you read?

                And again, you reply:

                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                Look up climate-gate.

                Please, construct a sentence. Answer the original question. A link to support your opinon is fine; but not in place of it.


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  Nagy_Vilmos wrote:

                  You are stupid, you really are: Nagy Vilmos wrote: Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism And your link CaptainSeeSharp wrote: Conspiracy...[^] Can you read? Do you understand what you read?

                  And again, you reply:

                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  Look up climate-gate.

                  Please, construct a sentence. Answer the original question. A link to support your opinon is fine; but not in place of it.


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                  Why are you bothering? Seriously, I stopped bothering with him a while ago because he is incapable of managing to respond in a manner that does not make my 4yr old look good. Could a lot of the stuff that went down that day been a cover up? Yep. Was it a bit too good of a coincidence? Yeop. Did the powers that be exploit the fuck out of it and make the entire thing worse for 7 years? You betcha! Does any of that matter at this point? Not really. We have people in charge unwilling to go after them. They had 7 years to cover up tracks and likely used it to good effect. Conspiracy websites aren't even on their radar. Too many wack jobs saying stuff about vaccines, alien abductions, 9-11, and other things all combined in a web of lies and such make it so that if even ONE of them was actually right, no one would be able to take them seriously. And really, I think far too few people take into account that our government has made it a habit of taking something simple and complicating it to the point where it becomes such a mess that it is almost worthless. Apply that to a situation where even a single person with the right evidence can bring it all down and it makes some scenarios pretty much impossible. Oh and when people point out that a jet would have smacked a building because it takes less than 2 minutes to get there and the timeline said 20, but then the author changes the subject and goes nuts over something that is not related, they are using a straw man. Ignore the straw man. Focus on the point and force an answer. How was there a conversation about a jet heading for Washington for 20 minutes when the plane could have gone to Washington, went back to Newark for bagels, and come back in that amount of time? Sorry, if you are going to make some scenario about how this actually happened, then you need to have basics down. The movie did not.

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                    Why are you bothering? Seriously, I stopped bothering with him a while ago because he is incapable of managing to respond in a manner that does not make my 4yr old look good. Could a lot of the stuff that went down that day been a cover up? Yep. Was it a bit too good of a coincidence? Yeop. Did the powers that be exploit the fuck out of it and make the entire thing worse for 7 years? You betcha! Does any of that matter at this point? Not really. We have people in charge unwilling to go after them. They had 7 years to cover up tracks and likely used it to good effect. Conspiracy websites aren't even on their radar. Too many wack jobs saying stuff about vaccines, alien abductions, 9-11, and other things all combined in a web of lies and such make it so that if even ONE of them was actually right, no one would be able to take them seriously. And really, I think far too few people take into account that our government has made it a habit of taking something simple and complicating it to the point where it becomes such a mess that it is almost worthless. Apply that to a situation where even a single person with the right evidence can bring it all down and it makes some scenarios pretty much impossible. Oh and when people point out that a jet would have smacked a building because it takes less than 2 minutes to get there and the timeline said 20, but then the author changes the subject and goes nuts over something that is not related, they are using a straw man. Ignore the straw man. Focus on the point and force an answer. How was there a conversation about a jet heading for Washington for 20 minutes when the plane could have gone to Washington, went back to Newark for bagels, and come back in that amount of time? Sorry, if you are going to make some scenario about how this actually happened, then you need to have basics down. The movie did not.

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                    Ian Shlasko
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                    ragnaroknrol wrote:

                    Why are you bothering?

                    Practice. No matter what you do in life, you will inevitably be confronted by complete imbeciles. It's good to know what to expect.

                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                      Why are you bothering? Seriously, I stopped bothering with him a while ago because he is incapable of managing to respond in a manner that does not make my 4yr old look good. Could a lot of the stuff that went down that day been a cover up? Yep. Was it a bit too good of a coincidence? Yeop. Did the powers that be exploit the fuck out of it and make the entire thing worse for 7 years? You betcha! Does any of that matter at this point? Not really. We have people in charge unwilling to go after them. They had 7 years to cover up tracks and likely used it to good effect. Conspiracy websites aren't even on their radar. Too many wack jobs saying stuff about vaccines, alien abductions, 9-11, and other things all combined in a web of lies and such make it so that if even ONE of them was actually right, no one would be able to take them seriously. And really, I think far too few people take into account that our government has made it a habit of taking something simple and complicating it to the point where it becomes such a mess that it is almost worthless. Apply that to a situation where even a single person with the right evidence can bring it all down and it makes some scenarios pretty much impossible. Oh and when people point out that a jet would have smacked a building because it takes less than 2 minutes to get there and the timeline said 20, but then the author changes the subject and goes nuts over something that is not related, they are using a straw man. Ignore the straw man. Focus on the point and force an answer. How was there a conversation about a jet heading for Washington for 20 minutes when the plane could have gone to Washington, went back to Newark for bagels, and come back in that amount of time? Sorry, if you are going to make some scenario about how this actually happened, then you need to have basics down. The movie did not.

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                      ragnaroknrol wrote:

                      vaccines, alien abductions,

                      Yeah right, because vaccines and aliens go hand in hand. :rolleyes: Quit making shit up, nobody but the onion and humor websites are talking about alien invaders.

                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                        ragnaroknrol wrote:

                        vaccines, alien abductions,

                        Yeah right, because vaccines and aliens go hand in hand. :rolleyes: Quit making shit up, nobody but the onion and humor websites are talking about alien invaders.

                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_argument[^] Fail.

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                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_argument[^] Fail.

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                          ragnaroknrol
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                          Why bother practicing when this one is so utterly predictable at this point? 1 word out of an entire post to focus on that has nothing to do with the subject and he still can't answer how a 20 minute scanrio happened when the plane could go to Newark and back from DC in that time. Dude, it's like practicing to swat a fly. Not exactly necessary.

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                            Why bother practicing when this one is so utterly predictable at this point? 1 word out of an entire post to focus on that has nothing to do with the subject and he still can't answer how a 20 minute scanrio happened when the plane could go to Newark and back from DC in that time. Dude, it's like practicing to swat a fly. Not exactly necessary.

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                            Ian Shlasko
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                            Well, I was going to say it was entertaining, but I'm starting to get bored of him. And it's not even the viewpoints... josda shares most some of the same views (But a bit less extreme), but he can debate the issues intelligently... CSS just posts youtube links and copies text from Alex Jones.

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                              ragnaroknrol wrote:

                              vaccines, alien abductions,

                              Yeah right, because vaccines and aliens go hand in hand. :rolleyes: Quit making shit up, nobody but the onion and humor websites are talking about alien invaders.

                              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                              You'd be amazed. I know of at least three people who think the old series V was fact.

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                                You'd be amazed. I know of at least three people who think the old series V was fact.

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                                wait... It wasn't?

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                                  Too successful... I haven't seen their tables in a while, but I decided that whenever I walk past one of them, I'm going to yell "Hail Xenu[^]!" just to annoy them. I was going to let them rope me into a stress test, just so I could waste their time and THEN make them feel really stupid, but I decided it's not worth the effort. (Don't know if they do it in your area, but here in NYC, they set up these tables in touristy areas like Times Square and Grand Central Terminal, offering "free stress tests," during which they inevitably find you to be stressed and depressed, and offer to "help")

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                                  Messing with them is fun for about an hour. Then you start to feel like maybe you are that guy that kicks puppies for fun. They look up at you with these sweet, adoring, loving, money grubbing, want to control you forever eyes and you just can't keep it up. Next thing you know you actually are stressed, Xenu is trying to eat your soul and Tom Cruise is blowing a line in your living room with his latest boy toy. After that it is all Hollywood, hookers, and heroin from there. No where to go but up from that. um... not that I know all this.

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                                    Well, I was going to say it was entertaining, but I'm starting to get bored of him. And it's not even the viewpoints... josda shares most some of the same views (But a bit less extreme), but he can debate the issues intelligently... CSS just posts youtube links and copies text from Alex Jones.

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                                    I bet I could write a program to simulate this behavior. I'm just too lazy to do it. I do have a behavior simulator for 0-4 year olds though. It should work with just changing some stuff to be Alex Jones links instead of arguing or throwing a fit.

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                                      You'd be amazed. I know of at least three people who think the old series V was fact.

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                                      okay, I couldn't resist. I retract my earlier statement. It is hilarious to make him eat his own words. Never tell someone to Google something if you don't know what the first hit is going to be...

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                                        okay, I couldn't resist. I retract my earlier statement. It is hilarious to make him eat his own words. Never tell someone to Google something if you don't know what the first hit is going to be...

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                                        Haha, well put!

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                                          Messing with them is fun for about an hour. Then you start to feel like maybe you are that guy that kicks puppies for fun. They look up at you with these sweet, adoring, loving, money grubbing, want to control you forever eyes and you just can't keep it up. Next thing you know you actually are stressed, Xenu is trying to eat your soul and Tom Cruise is blowing a line in your living room with his latest boy toy. After that it is all Hollywood, hookers, and heroin from there. No where to go but up from that. um... not that I know all this.

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                                          Scary, man... Very scary... Actually, for a while I was hoping they would try to drag me over (They would have people ask random people in the crowd to come over to the table)... I had all sorts of lines planned out (I'm one of those people who plans out conversations)... "So does your cult offer a full dental plan?" "Can I be an evil space alien instead? That looks like much more fun." "Oh, I'm just trying to see how hard it would be to start a cult when I finish MY science fiction novel." (This was before I actually DID finish my novel, of course) "You know what really stresses me out? The idea of being sucked into a brainwashing cult!" (Little homage to Maria Bamford - She's hilarious)

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