Stealth Treaty Seeks Strict Controls Over Internet
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Why does everything have to be a conspiracy to dominate the world? This is not a government conspiracy. This is the result of a lot of campaigning/funding from groups like the RIAA, MPAA, and their international counterparts. This is an economic move, not a political move. No one country can shut down the Internet (Not even the US), and the chances of enough countries working together is pretty much nil. It's grown beyond the control of any one organization, and that's the way we like it.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
Ian Shlasko wrote:
Why does everything have to be a conspiracy to dominate the world?
Why does power corrupt? Power is a very potent and extremely addictive drug.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Why does everything have to be a conspiracy to dominate the world?
Why does power corrupt? Power is a very potent and extremely addictive drug.
Just because something is possible doesn't mean it's happening. Take off the tin foil hat for five minutes and realize that most governments are too flooded with bureaucracy, political arguments, and general inefficiency and stupidity to actually accomplish any of these vast conspiracies.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Just because something is possible doesn't mean it's happening. Take off the tin foil hat for five minutes and realize that most governments are too flooded with bureaucracy, political arguments, and general inefficiency and stupidity to actually accomplish any of these vast conspiracies.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
People conspire for money and power, get that through your head. One only has to read the news to figure out that tyrants are in power, and they are seeking to expand and strengthen their power. Those are two facts.
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Why does everything have to be a conspiracy to dominate the world? This is not a government conspiracy. This is the result of a lot of campaigning/funding from groups like the RIAA, MPAA, and their international counterparts. This is an economic move, not a political move. No one country can shut down the Internet (Not even the US), and the chances of enough countries working together is pretty much nil. It's grown beyond the control of any one organization, and that's the way we like it.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
Hell, look at Russia and China. They pretty much refuse to follow any western coroporations attempts to police their infringement. If it was some sort of global conspiracy you would think 2 of the 3 biggest powers (at one point or another) would be working with them... And if I remember there is actually a provision in there were some idiot record company started being stupid about songs and got nailed, hard.
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People conspire for money and power, get that through your head. One only has to read the news to figure out that tyrants are in power, and they are seeking to expand and strengthen their power. Those are two facts.
Strawman. You present opinions as fact. Tyrants are in power, maybe, depending on the place. But even then, opinion. Expanding their power, same thing. Come on, how about using real facts? Should I bother starting a count today?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Climategate, peon.
-5, Offtopic
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
and another strawman. equating "climategate" with a conspiracy when it is not in fact one. oh and namecalling, but we can't expect that to count.
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Strawman. You present opinions as fact. Tyrants are in power, maybe, depending on the place. But even then, opinion. Expanding their power, same thing. Come on, how about using real facts? Should I bother starting a count today?
Think he's looked up the term 'Strawman' yet?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Think he's looked up the term 'Strawman' yet?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
Someone linked to the wikipedia page for it. Which means it is on the internet... SO IT MUST BE TRUE!!! :wtf:
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Someone linked to the wikipedia page for it. Which means it is on the internet... SO IT MUST BE TRUE!!! :wtf:
Nah, I'm sure the next Alex Jones show will be all about the "Strawman Conspiracy"... How the Federal Reserve is using a propaganda campaign to redefine logic itself in its favor.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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Hell, look at Russia and China. They pretty much refuse to follow any western coroporations attempts to police their infringement. If it was some sort of global conspiracy you would think 2 of the 3 biggest powers (at one point or another) would be working with them... And if I remember there is actually a provision in there were some idiot record company started being stupid about songs and got nailed, hard.
China heavily censors and controls the internet, for political reasons.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Why does everything have to be a conspiracy to dominate the world?
Why does power corrupt? Power is a very potent and extremely addictive drug.
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China heavily censors and controls the internet, for political reasons.
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And yet they still manage to pirate enough copies of windows to trigger outrage when Mircosoft manages to kill the pirated version.
I am amazed by him. So which is it? Is it a secret attempt to use this treaty to control everyone through sublte but utterly EVIL censorship, or just outright censorship that everyone knows about? Why would they be part of a conspiracy by Western CORPORATIONS to control the internet? They already show a remarkable tendency to not want to listen to the west. China is well known for pirating software. Hell, it's an industry there. They censor the internet a ton and jail people for anything they don't like. It's like he doesn't think his responses through.
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I am amazed by him. So which is it? Is it a secret attempt to use this treaty to control everyone through sublte but utterly EVIL censorship, or just outright censorship that everyone knows about? Why would they be part of a conspiracy by Western CORPORATIONS to control the internet? They already show a remarkable tendency to not want to listen to the west. China is well known for pirating software. Hell, it's an industry there. They censor the internet a ton and jail people for anything they don't like. It's like he doesn't think his responses through.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
It's like he doesn't think his responses through.
Sounds about right.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
It's like he doesn't think his responses through.
Sounds about right.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
hmmm. Once again, that makes more sense. :-D
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I am amazed by him. So which is it? Is it a secret attempt to use this treaty to control everyone through sublte but utterly EVIL censorship, or just outright censorship that everyone knows about? Why would they be part of a conspiracy by Western CORPORATIONS to control the internet? They already show a remarkable tendency to not want to listen to the west. China is well known for pirating software. Hell, it's an industry there. They censor the internet a ton and jail people for anything they don't like. It's like he doesn't think his responses through.
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
It's like he doesn't think his responses through.
Standard practice for many ideologues out there. Why think when we can assume we already know?
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And yet they still manage to pirate enough copies of windows to trigger outrage when Mircosoft manages to kill the pirated version.
They only censor for political reasons. They don't give a shit about copying software, they do it themselves (chinese government). They are a bunch of power hungry criminals.
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They only censor for political reasons. They don't give a shit about copying software, they do it themselves (chinese government). They are a bunch of power hungry criminals.
Wait, I can almost agree with all this. WTF?! I'm going to have to go see if dogs and cats have started living together...
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They only censor for political reasons. They don't give a shit about copying software, they do it themselves (chinese government). They are a bunch of power hungry criminals.
I'm wondering who isn't a bunch of power hungry criminals to you. But congratulations, you've managed to say something loosely correct. But the point is, if they aren't clamping down on the internet entirely, they can't actually manage to censor it completely. Never mind it's entirely possible to get software which can bypass all of their restrictions.