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So my boss is oredering me a new PC

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  • T ToddHileHoffer

    7200RPM which is pretty good.

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    Dario Solera
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    <topper_mode>7200rpm is the bare minimum. Besides, not all 7200rpm disks have the same performance, there are several factors that affect it. I run two WD Velociraptor (10000rpm) in RAID0, and I still find them not fast enough. If only I could afford a couple of SSDs...</topper_mode>

    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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    • T ToddHileHoffer

      My New PC The specs are really good, I can't wait to get it.

      I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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      Rajesh R Subramanian
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      Ah, that reminds me of my old PC. Just kidding. Nice PC, have fun. :)

      “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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        <topper_mode>7200rpm is the bare minimum. Besides, not all 7200rpm disks have the same performance, there are several factors that affect it. I run two WD Velociraptor (10000rpm) in RAID0, and I still find them not fast enough. If only I could afford a couple of SSDs...</topper_mode>

        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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        leppie
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        You should get yourself a few of these :) http://www.supertalent.com/products/ssd_category_detail.php?type=RAIDDrive[^]

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        • T ToddHileHoffer

          My New PC The specs are really good, I can't wait to get it.

          I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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          AspDotNetDev
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          Jealous! Especially the 9GB RAM. :omg: I recently got a new computer that came with 1GB. I had to tell them that wasn't enough and to install an extra GB. :doh:

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            Good:) So you went with the suggestion offered long time back. The machine will give the highest possible Windows Experience Index. Make sure that you reformat and get rid of the HP crap.

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            Dan Neely
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            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

            The machine will give the highest possible Windows Experience Index.

            Nope. You'd need an SSD to max out the HD rating at a minimum. IIRC a single 260 falls short of max on the GPU test as well.

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              You should get yourself a few of these :) http://www.supertalent.com/products/ssd_category_detail.php?type=RAIDDrive[^]

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              AspDotNetDev
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              Don't think I trust their quality control.

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              RAIDDrive SSDs supports 2GB/sec bandwidth, more than ten times that of the SATA-II 3Gbps bus

              SATA-II: 3Gbps
              SSD: 2GBps * 8 = 16Gbps
              16 / 3 = 5.333
              5.333 < 10

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              • A AspDotNetDev

                Don't think I trust their quality control.

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                RAIDDrive SSDs supports 2GB/sec bandwidth, more than ten times that of the SATA-II 3Gbps bus

                SATA-II: 3Gbps
                SSD: 2GBps * 8 = 16Gbps
                16 / 3 = 5.333
                5.333 < 10

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                leppie
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                aspdotnetdev wrote:

                Don't think I trust their quality control.

                Remember about RAID. They come in 0 or 5.

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                • D Dario Solera

                  <topper_mode>7200rpm is the bare minimum. Besides, not all 7200rpm disks have the same performance, there are several factors that affect it. I run two WD Velociraptor (10000rpm) in RAID0, and I still find them not fast enough. If only I could afford a couple of SSDs...</topper_mode>

                  If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                  Dan Neely
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                  Dario Solera wrote:

                  7200rpm is the bare minimum.

                  No that's 5400RPM (many laptop drives, and the WD green series). The WD greens are perfect for USB enclosures since you're bottlenecked by the bus badly; and for bulk data storage because they're marginally cheaper, run cooler (less power consumption, less heat aging), and spin slower (less mechanical load on moving parts - longer life expectancy, also quieter). I wouldn't recommend one as a primary drive; but if you have an SSD for your OS/apps your mp3/mpg collection won't be affected any by being put on the green drive. Edit: actually IIRC there's a few laptop drives that are only 4200RPM.

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                  • T ToddHileHoffer

                    My New PC The specs are really good, I can't wait to get it.

                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                    Dan Neely
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                    That's similar to my home PC, I think you'll like it. Differences: CPU - my 920 is watercooled and screaming at 3.87 ghz. :cool: GPU - I have SLI 260's HD - I have a 120GB OCZ agility, and a WD 640 black. RAM - only 6GB, filling both banks hurts OC performance and DDR3 was almost $50/gig a year ago. I've yet to exceed 5GB used so I'm not too concerned here yet; and 4GB dimms currently have a 2x price penalty attached. :sigh:

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                    • L leppie

                      aspdotnetdev wrote:

                      Don't think I trust their quality control.

                      Remember about RAID. They come in 0 or 5.

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                      AspDotNetDev
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                      Let me get the first part of that quote for you.

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                      The PCIe x8 interface used by RAIDDrive SSDs supports 2GB/sec bandwidth, more than ten times that of the SATA-II 3Gbps bus

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                      • L leppie

                        Wow, that is neat! I wish I had your boss :(

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                        daniilzol
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                        I was going to say I wish I was his boss... :laugh:

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                        • A AspDotNetDev

                          Let me get the first part of that quote for you.

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                          The PCIe x8 interface used by RAIDDrive SSDs supports 2GB/sec bandwidth, more than ten times that of the SATA-II 3Gbps bus

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                          leppie
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                          aspdotnetdev wrote:

                          Let me get the first part of that quote for you.

                          Doh! I'm going brain dead :(

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                          • A AspDotNetDev

                            Let me get the first part of that quote for you.

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                            The PCIe x8 interface used by RAIDDrive SSDs supports 2GB/sec bandwidth, more than ten times that of the SATA-II 3Gbps bus

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                            leppie
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                            That number could be misquoted. From here* it says a PCIe 2.0 x8 interface should do 4GB/sec, if MY math is correct. * http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/faqs/pcie3.0_faq/[^]

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                            • D Dario Solera

                              Too bad they don't even provide the specs of the hard drive (which is the most important part of the PC).

                              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki v3

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                              David Crow
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                              What part of "1TB 7200RPM" did you miss (or did they add that after your post)?

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                                That number could be misquoted. From here* it says a PCIe 2.0 x8 interface should do 4GB/sec, if MY math is correct. * http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/faqs/pcie3.0_faq/[^]

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                                AspDotNetDev
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                                That's my guess. That'd put them at 10.666 times faster.

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                                  That number could be misquoted. From here* it says a PCIe 2.0 x8 interface should do 4GB/sec, if MY math is correct. * http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/faqs/pcie3.0_faq/[^]

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                                  That's 2GB up and 2GB down, vs SATAs 300MB symmetric.

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                                  • D David Crow

                                    What part of "1TB 7200RPM" did you miss (or did they add that after your post)?

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                                    Not all 1TB 7200 RPM drives are created equal. 16MB cache < 32MB. 5x200MB < 4x250MB < 3x333MB < 2x500MB platters. Some manufactures are marginally faster or quieter as are some lines within a manufacturers product lines. eg WD Black 7200RPM drives are slightly faster and louder than the Blue series. NTM some companies are having a period of poor quality; most recently seagate.

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                                    • T ToddHileHoffer

                                      Sorry about that.

                                      I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                      Just kidding (fortunately)... :rolleyes:

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                                      • D Dan Neely

                                        That's 2GB up and 2GB down, vs SATAs 300MB symmetric.

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                                        Dan Neely wrote:

                                        300MB

                                        375MB?

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                                          Dan Neely wrote:

                                          300MB

                                          375MB?

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                                          No 300 is correct. SATA uses 8/10 bit encoding[^] to balance the DC load on its data lines and only transmits a single byte of data per 10 bits transmitted. May other data buses (most notably PCIe1.0/2.0) do the same. There are more efficient encoding systems being used in some newer ultra high speed links, eg 10GB Ethernet and PCIe3.0 which use 64/66 bit encoding[^] to get Gb/sec to ~= 8*GB/sec.

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