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  • A AspDotNetDev

    Let me get the first part of that quote for you.

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    The PCIe x8 interface used by RAIDDrive SSDs supports 2GB/sec bandwidth, more than ten times that of the SATA-II 3Gbps bus

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    leppie
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    aspdotnetdev wrote:

    Let me get the first part of that quote for you.

    Doh! I'm going brain dead :(

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    • A AspDotNetDev

      Let me get the first part of that quote for you.

      Website:

      The PCIe x8 interface used by RAIDDrive SSDs supports 2GB/sec bandwidth, more than ten times that of the SATA-II 3Gbps bus

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      That number could be misquoted. From here* it says a PCIe 2.0 x8 interface should do 4GB/sec, if MY math is correct. * http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/faqs/pcie3.0_faq/[^]

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      • D Dario Solera

        Too bad they don't even provide the specs of the hard drive (which is the most important part of the PC).

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        David Crow
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        What part of "1TB 7200RPM" did you miss (or did they add that after your post)?

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        • L leppie

          That number could be misquoted. From here* it says a PCIe 2.0 x8 interface should do 4GB/sec, if MY math is correct. * http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/faqs/pcie3.0_faq/[^]

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          AspDotNetDev
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          That's my guess. That'd put them at 10.666 times faster.

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            That number could be misquoted. From here* it says a PCIe 2.0 x8 interface should do 4GB/sec, if MY math is correct. * http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/faqs/pcie3.0_faq/[^]

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            Dan Neely
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            That's 2GB up and 2GB down, vs SATAs 300MB symmetric.

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            • D David Crow

              What part of "1TB 7200RPM" did you miss (or did they add that after your post)?

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              Dan Neely
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              Not all 1TB 7200 RPM drives are created equal. 16MB cache < 32MB. 5x200MB < 4x250MB < 3x333MB < 2x500MB platters. Some manufactures are marginally faster or quieter as are some lines within a manufacturers product lines. eg WD Black 7200RPM drives are slightly faster and louder than the Blue series. NTM some companies are having a period of poor quality; most recently seagate.

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              • T ToddHileHoffer

                Sorry about that.

                I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                Just kidding (fortunately)... :rolleyes:

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                • D Dan Neely

                  That's 2GB up and 2GB down, vs SATAs 300MB symmetric.

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                  Dan Neely wrote:

                  300MB

                  375MB?

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                  • A AspDotNetDev

                    Dan Neely wrote:

                    300MB

                    375MB?

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                    No 300 is correct. SATA uses 8/10 bit encoding[^] to balance the DC load on its data lines and only transmits a single byte of data per 10 bits transmitted. May other data buses (most notably PCIe1.0/2.0) do the same. There are more efficient encoding systems being used in some newer ultra high speed links, eg 10GB Ethernet and PCIe3.0 which use 64/66 bit encoding[^] to get Gb/sec to ~= 8*GB/sec.

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                    • D Dan Neely

                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                      The machine will give the highest possible Windows Experience Index.

                      Nope. You'd need an SSD to max out the HD rating at a minimum. IIRC a single 260 falls short of max on the GPU test as well.

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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                      When I checked the machine (older version with Vista) at the store, it gave a Vista rating of 5.9.

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                      • D Dan Neely

                        No 300 is correct. SATA uses 8/10 bit encoding[^] to balance the DC load on its data lines and only transmits a single byte of data per 10 bits transmitted. May other data buses (most notably PCIe1.0/2.0) do the same. There are more efficient encoding systems being used in some newer ultra high speed links, eg 10GB Ethernet and PCIe3.0 which use 64/66 bit encoding[^] to get Gb/sec to ~= 8*GB/sec.

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                        That all sounds very confusing and, so, probably correct. ;P

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          When I checked the machine (older version with Vista) at the store, it gave a Vista rating of 5.9.

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                          getting 7.9 is weven is rather difficult. My system gives: CPU 7.6 i7-920 @3.85gz RAM 7.8 DDR3 1627 GFX (both) 7.2 SLI 260's HDD 6.9 Indilinx SSD New s1366 chips are regularly breaking 4ghz so that might be doable before gulftown in a single sockect platform. Faster ram would probably break that bottleneck. The GPU would likely require 2x 295, 2x 4870x2s, 2x 5870, or a 5970 minimum. On the HDD front the only saneish option would be an intel SSD.

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                          • T ToddHileHoffer

                            My New PC The specs are really good, I can't wait to get it.

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                            Unfortunately, the motherboard in that thing is junk. There are reports of the system freezing (and not in a cold sort of way) and some SATA problems. Other people have reported that upgrading the video sometimes has problems. Hopefully, yours will have a motherboard with those problems fixed. (A guy at work bought one for himself. So far it's worked, though its not clear why he had to reboot the system a few times. I think he said it didn't freeze, but the performance suddenly dropped.)

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                            • D Dan Neely

                              getting 7.9 is weven is rather difficult. My system gives: CPU 7.6 i7-920 @3.85gz RAM 7.8 DDR3 1627 GFX (both) 7.2 SLI 260's HDD 6.9 Indilinx SSD New s1366 chips are regularly breaking 4ghz so that might be doable before gulftown in a single sockect platform. Faster ram would probably break that bottleneck. The GPU would likely require 2x 295, 2x 4870x2s, 2x 5870, or a 5970 minimum. On the HDD front the only saneish option would be an intel SSD.

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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                              Dan Neely wrote:

                              etting 7.9 is weven is rather difficult.

                              Wow! They have updated the experience index based on the trends in the hardware and it looks pretty strict.

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                              • D Dan Neely

                                Dario Solera wrote:

                                7200rpm is the bare minimum.

                                No that's 5400RPM (many laptop drives, and the WD green series). The WD greens are perfect for USB enclosures since you're bottlenecked by the bus badly; and for bulk data storage because they're marginally cheaper, run cooler (less power consumption, less heat aging), and spin slower (less mechanical load on moving parts - longer life expectancy, also quieter). I wouldn't recommend one as a primary drive; but if you have an SSD for your OS/apps your mp3/mpg collection won't be affected any by being put on the green drive. Edit: actually IIRC there's a few laptop drives that are only 4200RPM.

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                                Dario Solera
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                                Dan Neely wrote:

                                No that's 5400RPM

                                I don't even consider them to be rotating at all. Seriously, a 5400rpm disk is below acceptable performance. I had to replace one in my laptop with a 7200rpm (Seagate Momentus 7200.4 320GB).

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