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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    You make me want to vomit.

    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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    Distind
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    What part of it exactly? Creating a better system which could require less intervention, less resources, maintain effectiveness while reducing overhead? The right hand knowing what the left was doing, without three weeks of communication between five departments and thirty seven appointees? The basic structure is good, the theory is sound enough, but we could implement it far better by further integrating the system itself, and using technology to do so.

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      What part of it exactly? Creating a better system which could require less intervention, less resources, maintain effectiveness while reducing overhead? The right hand knowing what the left was doing, without three weeks of communication between five departments and thirty seven appointees? The basic structure is good, the theory is sound enough, but we could implement it far better by further integrating the system itself, and using technology to do so.

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      Distind wrote:

      What part of it exactly?

      The part where you want to centralize power, increase government spending, and have special government highways and roads for government officials, where the people have to pay for it once, and then be charged again for using the roads. Here is a simple layout of government spending. This has nothing to do with bureaucratic inefficiencies. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Figures-on-government-apf-2178072020.html?x=0&.v=2[^] Here is a more detailed look. http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year2009_0.html[^] If you look, the cost of running the bureaucracy, building maintenance is ~20 billion. Transportation (roads, airports, trains, water transportation, and so on is only 100 billion. I'm sure there is a lot of waste and corruption in those departments, but infrastructure isn't the problem.

      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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        Distind wrote:

        What part of it exactly?

        The part where you want to centralize power, increase government spending, and have special government highways and roads for government officials, where the people have to pay for it once, and then be charged again for using the roads. Here is a simple layout of government spending. This has nothing to do with bureaucratic inefficiencies. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Figures-on-government-apf-2178072020.html?x=0&.v=2[^] Here is a more detailed look. http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/year2009_0.html[^] If you look, the cost of running the bureaucracy, building maintenance is ~20 billion. Transportation (roads, airports, trains, water transportation, and so on is only 100 billion. I'm sure there is a lot of waste and corruption in those departments, but infrastructure isn't the problem.

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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        Bucko, the monetary unit of this country is effectively based on the people's belief that the country will maintain itself and continue to pay it's bills. What better measure is there than improving the quality of government, showing that people SHOULD have faith in it, that it CAN manage it's obligations, and that it WILL be able to keep up with the times to form a stepping stone towards paying off the nation's debt. I'll also note, my choices here are far from just intended as cost reducing measures, but rather to improve the *warning buzzword ahead* agility of the government when attempting to respond to something. Anything from detecting fraud and responding to crime, to sharing intelligence and disaster relief. I don't aim to make everything cheaper, I'm aiming to make everything it does better. Once you can actually do your job right the first time, you can start fixing the things you never should have done in the first place.

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          Glenn Beck is being characterized by the establishment as the leader of the freedom movement and yet a closer analysis of his ideology reveals that Beck is nothing more than a fake revolutionary who has supported and is pushing policies that are diametrically opposed to those embraced by true constitutionalists. Beck and Fox News have hijacked the patriot movement and are leading conservatives and libertarians down a meaningless partisan rabbit hole in a clear attempt to neutralize genuine opposition to the big government agenda of the Obama administration. http://www.infowars.com/glenn-beck-for-dummies/[^]

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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          pseudonym67
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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          Glenn Beck is being characterized by the establishment as the leader of the freedom movement

          Odd you should think because most of the stuff ive read seems to be characterising Glen Beck as a cunt

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            Bucko, the monetary unit of this country is effectively based on the people's belief that the country will maintain itself and continue to pay it's bills. What better measure is there than improving the quality of government, showing that people SHOULD have faith in it, that it CAN manage it's obligations, and that it WILL be able to keep up with the times to form a stepping stone towards paying off the nation's debt. I'll also note, my choices here are far from just intended as cost reducing measures, but rather to improve the *warning buzzword ahead* agility of the government when attempting to respond to something. Anything from detecting fraud and responding to crime, to sharing intelligence and disaster relief. I don't aim to make everything cheaper, I'm aiming to make everything it does better. Once you can actually do your job right the first time, you can start fixing the things you never should have done in the first place.

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            ragnaroknrol
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            You know, I had a post all ready to go about how spending money on infrastructure is never wasteful, but I had to go. CSS won't get it, he cahnges what you say to make it sound like you want something you don't and attacks that instead of dealing with what you said. The moment you beat him anyway, he resorts to insulting you. Seriously, I think Ian was on to something when it came to programming his behavior as if it was a bot.

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              You know, I had a post all ready to go about how spending money on infrastructure is never wasteful, but I had to go. CSS won't get it, he cahnges what you say to make it sound like you want something you don't and attacks that instead of dealing with what you said. The moment you beat him anyway, he resorts to insulting you. Seriously, I think Ian was on to something when it came to programming his behavior as if it was a bot.

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              Ian Shlasko
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              ragnaroknrol wrote:

              Seriously, I think Ian was on to something when it came to programming his behavior as if it was a bot.

              Hey, I've written eggdrop-style bots on IRC (Wow, I feel old)... I'm good at identifying their behavior.

              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                ragnaroknrol wrote:

                Seriously, I think Ian was on to something when it came to programming his behavior as if it was a bot.

                Hey, I've written eggdrop-style bots on IRC (Wow, I feel old)... I'm good at identifying their behavior.

                Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                He does vary it up though. Sometimes he insults your mom, sometimes he finds some word that might set you off and calls it. Sometimes he just states the opposite and thinks that because arguing with him is like arguing with God that will be enough.

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                  He does vary it up though. Sometimes he insults your mom, sometimes he finds some word that might set you off and calls it. Sometimes he just states the opposite and thinks that because arguing with him is like arguing with God that will be enough.

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                  Ian Shlasko
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                  ragnaroknrol wrote:

                  thinks that because arguing with him is like arguing with God that will be enough

                  See, I kind of like that strategy. Being a devout atheist (I know, the adjective doesn't make sense, but I just think the phrase is funny), I can just claim that CSS no longer exists. I mean, if only it were that easy.

                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                  • R ragnaroknrol

                    You know, I had a post all ready to go about how spending money on infrastructure is never wasteful, but I had to go. CSS won't get it, he cahnges what you say to make it sound like you want something you don't and attacks that instead of dealing with what you said. The moment you beat him anyway, he resorts to insulting you. Seriously, I think Ian was on to something when it came to programming his behavior as if it was a bot.

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                    ragnaroknrol wrote:

                    You know, I had a post all ready to go about how spending money on infrastructure is never wasteful, but I had to go.

                    It's funny though, I have a few republicans who always pester me with 'the government can't make jobs/money/economic advancement' and they can never really answer where the country would be without a national highway system. Some people have some remarkable blinders on how much a powerful and effective national government can accomplish for the lives of every single on of it's citizens. And it's not always bad, if we could stop politicking pointlessly, stop blindly screaming when the other side does something, and actually analyze the situations we could manage much more, with far less, even if there is an upfront cost to it. But, again, I'm dreaming. That said, I'm thinking of running for the house on the platform that I'm a democrat who can manhandle any republican currently in office. Though I wonder about the effectiveness of the approach, the reactions to the wuss out of democrats so far seems like it may work.

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                      ragnaroknrol wrote:

                      You know, I had a post all ready to go about how spending money on infrastructure is never wasteful, but I had to go.

                      It's funny though, I have a few republicans who always pester me with 'the government can't make jobs/money/economic advancement' and they can never really answer where the country would be without a national highway system. Some people have some remarkable blinders on how much a powerful and effective national government can accomplish for the lives of every single on of it's citizens. And it's not always bad, if we could stop politicking pointlessly, stop blindly screaming when the other side does something, and actually analyze the situations we could manage much more, with far less, even if there is an upfront cost to it. But, again, I'm dreaming. That said, I'm thinking of running for the house on the platform that I'm a democrat who can manhandle any republican currently in office. Though I wonder about the effectiveness of the approach, the reactions to the wuss out of democrats so far seems like it may work.

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                      I would move there to vote for you. I'd also kiss you. But you'd have to manhandle one of them for the kiss. I wish I could find that post. You get up, your clock set to the standard time. You take a shower, the water is treated by your local government and held to standards done by (X agency), brush teeth (toothpaste approved by another) and get in your car. The radio tells you traffic (monitored by DOT) and the radio is on an FCC approved band. You drive in a car up to federal crash standards, get to work and are kept in a safe work condition by OSHA, etc.. I think it was like 30+ government agencies we don't pay attention to that are all working quietly behind the scenes to keep us safe and secure, and yet boneheads want to get rid of them. And the Dems are like a 45 yr old virgin with Megan Fox. They really want to do something, but they don't know where to start and are too busy trying not to offend her to notice she's waiting for them to get to work.

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