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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    Oh but islam is a religion of peace right?

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    Murderous idiots come in all flavors.

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      You believe he actually said something worth reading? He is the type of people that ruthlessly demonize Christians while at the same time say they are more radical that muslims, inject some racism, and do it with great disdain.

      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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      Actually I don't. I have a website that lets them do it for themselves. See, I post quotes, with links to the full context, of the most inane, psychotic, and preferably funny quotes by pretty much anyone with a stick to far up their ass to realize other people are human too. In the English speaking world, a majority of them are Christian. Though it looks like a Muslim is actually going to win quote of the year(and it's a doozy).

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      • C CaptainSeeSharp

        The government did that as a false-flag style op. They do that kind of thing all the time. There are even some old plans to go to war with Cuba called Operation Northwoods (declassified, look it up and read the documenet). Northwoods involves the CIA running a false-flag attack on one of our major cities and blaming it on the communists.

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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        There are even some old plans to

        You are a deluded, ignorant moron. I am pleased to see that you conduct yourself with other people the same way you do me - change the subject when you realise you have no answer to the things people ask you. But, you live in an elaborate fantasy world where everything is easily explained away by more and more elaborate fairy tales.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          The government did that as a false-flag style op

          Really? Cause the nutjob they caught was all about taking credit and was pretty blatent about it. Oh, by the way, calling something a false flag op doesn't work when it is YOUR OWN FREAKING CITIZENS. who's going to rally to our flag when the enemy is a bunch of religious nutjobs inside the country? I'd say look up the definition of false-flag operations, but, well, we all know how well that would work.

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          ragnaroknrol wrote:

          Oh, by the way, calling something a false flag op doesn't work when it is YOUR OWN FREAKING CITIZENS.

          Did you forget ? All of this was entirely so they could persecute Christians. I guess 9/11 was a dumb idea, because it created focus on Muslims. Who are, according to CSS, warlike people, even though it was the US government who made them look that way.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          • C Christian Graus

            josda1000 wrote:

            Anyone that subscribes to a religion is called insane or stupid, something of that nature. In America, and any western land.

            Jhn 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. So ?

            josda1000 wrote:

            "Liberals". Boy, has that word got screwed up over the past fifty years.

            Yes, it means the opposite of what it used to mean, in the USA only. The liberal party here is right wing. However, let's remember that some 'pro lifers' kill abortion doctors, and some gun owners are all about the coming apocalypse. Let's also remember that being a Christian does not mean owning a gun, being anti abortion, or being right wing.

            josda1000 wrote:

            Terrorism is a dirty word, of course, and always has been. But it's thrown around so easily that it's just turning into a namecalling. Just like "right-wing extremist". They're just general words that mean nothing after some time.

            Well, that could be true. Except he used the word 'programmed' and generally implied that 9/11 was an inside job for the purpose of creating a focus on terrorism, so that the definition of terrorist could be broadened to include Christians ( and let's not forget this started with his completely faulty claim of a coming world government and antiChrist figure who beheads Christians, literally )

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            So ?

            What do you mean, so? What's your point? I was just stating a fact. I don't like it, but it's the truth, and you apparently agree with me.

            Christian Graus wrote:

            However, let's remember that some 'pro lifers' kill abortion doctors, and some gun owners are all about the coming apocalypse.

            Not all of them, though. Glad to see you agree.

            Christian Graus wrote:

            Let's also remember that being a Christian does not mean owning a gun, being anti abortion, or being right wing.

            Agreed again. What's your point here? Now because of this, I'm surprised that your image of a "patriot" is a hick. Glad to see you're opening your eyes a bit.

            Christian Graus wrote:

            Except he used the word 'programmed' and generally implied that 9/11 was an inside job for the purpose of creating a focus on terrorism, so that the definition of terrorist could be broadened to include Christians ( and let's not forget this started with his completely faulty claim of a coming world government and antiChrist figure who beheads Christians, literally )

            And I'd agree with him, to an extent. A lot of people (not all people) do think that being right-wing is being extremist, and means you're going to revolt.

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              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              Its called respecting property rights. A person's labor is his/her property, and should be exchanged at the rate they agree upon. If a company wants workers, then they have to give them incentives to work. Over in China and similar countries, their economy is extremely regulated, they have slave labor camps where women live in factories, they have no choice because their government controls the economy.

              Option 1: Work for the local megacorp at slave wages. Option 2: Starve, because no one else is hiring. Sure, it's free choice, but that doesn't mean the options are fair.

              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              No it doesn't, it tends to private individuals trading and innovating. That how how America because the most prosperous nation in the world. There was the sovereign free individual and the free market for him to make money and buy goods and services.

              Not in the era of mass production, where you get more efficient the larger you get. Just look at Walmart, for an example of one on its way up. Then we have Microsoft, who would be a complete monopoly instead of a partial monopoly, if not for government intervention (Socialism). The "baby Bells" are an edge case, as I think Bell might have had a bit of government help to begin with, until they were forcibly broken up (Socialism). The auto companies are huge conglomerates, and would probably be playing slave wages if not for the labor unions (Socialism) This is what capitalism leads to... And this is where some amount of socialism (Government regulation) is necessary to preserve fairness.

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              Ian Shlasko wrote:

              Option 1: Work for the local megacorp at slave wages. Option 2: Starve, because no one else is hiring.

              Option 3: Start your own business. Option 4: Work for the government, because they have taken up a big part of the private sector. Option 5: Work for a small business/work under the table. There's always more than two solutions, though most people will only think of two. The two party system really works to make people think like this.

              Ian Shlasko wrote:

              Not in the era of mass production, where you get more efficient the larger you get. Just look at Walmart, for an example of one on its way up.

              Great example of how the bigger you get, the less quality you get. It's not about efficiency, it's about prices being low because quality is low.

              Ian Shlasko wrote:

              Then we have Microsoft, who would be a complete monopoly instead of a partial monopoly, if not for government intervention (Socialism).

              I think that's communism specifically... don't call me on it though.

              Ian Shlasko wrote:

              The auto companies are huge conglomerates, and would probably be playing slave wages if not for the labor unions (Socialism)

              This is definitely communism. Government intervention to this degree is communism.

              Ian Shlasko wrote:

              This is what capitalism leads to... And this is where some amount of socialism (Government regulation) is necessary to preserve fairness.

              This shouldn't have happened in a free society at all. Capitalism is different from corporatism, and that's what we have, not capitalism. The free market is no longer at work.

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                I told you long ago that your talk of a new world order was a step towards becoming part of the Christian Right Wing, and believing in the antichrist and the tribulation. You laughed at me. Now it seems I am proven right.

                I have always been Christian Right-Wing. Tell me what is wrong with that? The documentary is correct, conservative Christians and the like are being systematically demonized, prostituted, and persecuted. They got us to accept this type of religious persecution with 9/11. Now they are shifting the definition of a terrorist to right-wingers, pro-lifers, gun owners, and Christians. People have become so programmed using the word terrorist that it is like pushing a button on people to make this do what you want. Its a psychological operation. Nothing about those types should bring up images of toothless radicals or whatever the image implanted into everybody through years of propaganda.

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                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                I have always been Christian Right-Wing. Tell me what is wrong with that?

                Well, for one thing, it indicates that you are stuck in the left-right paradigm.

                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                People have become so programmed using the word terrorist that it is like pushing a button on people to make this them do what you want.

                List those actions with which you believe people have been programmed to perform.

                Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos

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                • J josda1000

                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  So ?

                  What do you mean, so? What's your point? I was just stating a fact. I don't like it, but it's the truth, and you apparently agree with me.

                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  However, let's remember that some 'pro lifers' kill abortion doctors, and some gun owners are all about the coming apocalypse.

                  Not all of them, though. Glad to see you agree.

                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  Let's also remember that being a Christian does not mean owning a gun, being anti abortion, or being right wing.

                  Agreed again. What's your point here? Now because of this, I'm surprised that your image of a "patriot" is a hick. Glad to see you're opening your eyes a bit.

                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  Except he used the word 'programmed' and generally implied that 9/11 was an inside job for the purpose of creating a focus on terrorism, so that the definition of terrorist could be broadened to include Christians ( and let's not forget this started with his completely faulty claim of a coming world government and antiChrist figure who beheads Christians, literally )

                  And I'd agree with him, to an extent. A lot of people (not all people) do think that being right-wing is being extremist, and means you're going to revolt.

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                  josda1000 wrote:

                  What do you mean, so? What's your point? I was just stating a fact. I don't like it, but it's the truth, and you apparently agree with me.

                  I mean that non Christians 'persecuting' Christians is nothing new, nothing exciting, and not a big deal when they just call them names.

                  josda1000 wrote:

                  Not all of them, though. Glad to see you agree.

                  Not all, no. But, just like Muslims are judged by the most extreme element, non Christians hear Christian and they think of the Phelps family, and people who bomb abortion clinics, and Oklahoma City. That's just natural.

                  josda1000 wrote:

                  Agreed again. What's your point here?

                  In America, being a Christian means being a Republican, from what I can tell. CSS is sure tying those things together.

                  josda1000 wrote:

                  And I'd agree with him, to an extent. A lot of people (not all people) do think that being right-wing is being extremist, and means you're going to revolt.

                  The big issue, is the claim that the government is running 'black ops' to make this so.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                    Option 1: Work for the local megacorp at slave wages. Option 2: Starve, because no one else is hiring.

                    Option 3: Start your own business. Option 4: Work for the government, because they have taken up a big part of the private sector. Option 5: Work for a small business/work under the table. There's always more than two solutions, though most people will only think of two. The two party system really works to make people think like this.

                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                    Not in the era of mass production, where you get more efficient the larger you get. Just look at Walmart, for an example of one on its way up.

                    Great example of how the bigger you get, the less quality you get. It's not about efficiency, it's about prices being low because quality is low.

                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                    Then we have Microsoft, who would be a complete monopoly instead of a partial monopoly, if not for government intervention (Socialism).

                    I think that's communism specifically... don't call me on it though.

                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                    The auto companies are huge conglomerates, and would probably be playing slave wages if not for the labor unions (Socialism)

                    This is definitely communism. Government intervention to this degree is communism.

                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                    This is what capitalism leads to... And this is where some amount of socialism (Government regulation) is necessary to preserve fairness.

                    This shouldn't have happened in a free society at all. Capitalism is different from corporatism, and that's what we have, not capitalism. The free market is no longer at work.

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                    josda1000 wrote:

                    Option 3: Start your own business.

                    This one always bothers me. Start it with what exactly? There are only a handful of things the average person can do without any given equipment or floor space and a number of the profitable ones are fairly illegal. You don't have any money, you don't have any thing marketable, you can't get a job, so how exactly do you start your own business?

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                      josda1000 wrote:

                      Option 3: Start your own business.

                      This one always bothers me. Start it with what exactly? There are only a handful of things the average person can do without any given equipment or floor space and a number of the profitable ones are fairly illegal. You don't have any money, you don't have any thing marketable, you can't get a job, so how exactly do you start your own business?

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                      Yea, I always laugh at this one. My dad did start his own business. Of course he also had friends that allowed him to. Had he not had those friends, the suits in charge would never have let him start it. To start a business you need capital. product. planning. Almost no one can manage all 3 without help from the outside. The #4 was laughable at best. Government jobs are drying up now more than private sector. The private sector already adjusted. Those that are in the public sector are getting hit now because the businesses all decided to cut spending by firing people that were paying taxes. Less taxes means less money.. and well, you mentioned the missing legs already.

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                        ragnaroknrol wrote:

                        Oh, by the way, calling something a false flag op doesn't work when it is YOUR OWN FREAKING CITIZENS.

                        Did you forget ? All of this was entirely so they could persecute Christians. I guess 9/11 was a dumb idea, because it created focus on Muslims. Who are, according to CSS, warlike people, even though it was the US government who made them look that way.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        I missed the ability to persecute Christians?! DAMMIT!!!! I was so hoping to ask them why sex is so bad while pointing at Songs of Soloman...

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                          josda1000 wrote:

                          What do you mean, so? What's your point? I was just stating a fact. I don't like it, but it's the truth, and you apparently agree with me.

                          I mean that non Christians 'persecuting' Christians is nothing new, nothing exciting, and not a big deal when they just call them names.

                          josda1000 wrote:

                          Not all of them, though. Glad to see you agree.

                          Not all, no. But, just like Muslims are judged by the most extreme element, non Christians hear Christian and they think of the Phelps family, and people who bomb abortion clinics, and Oklahoma City. That's just natural.

                          josda1000 wrote:

                          Agreed again. What's your point here?

                          In America, being a Christian means being a Republican, from what I can tell. CSS is sure tying those things together.

                          josda1000 wrote:

                          And I'd agree with him, to an extent. A lot of people (not all people) do think that being right-wing is being extremist, and means you're going to revolt.

                          The big issue, is the claim that the government is running 'black ops' to make this so.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          In America, being a Christian means being a Republican, from what I can tell. CSS is sure tying those things together.

                          Yeah I don't agree with him on that, I mean my mother and her whole side were Catholics, and Democrats.

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          The big issue, is the claim that the government is running 'black ops' to make this so.

                          I'm not sure about this either, though it is strange to see what can be seen in the administration right now.

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                            josda1000 wrote:

                            What do you mean, so? What's your point? I was just stating a fact. I don't like it, but it's the truth, and you apparently agree with me.

                            I mean that non Christians 'persecuting' Christians is nothing new, nothing exciting, and not a big deal when they just call them names.

                            josda1000 wrote:

                            Not all of them, though. Glad to see you agree.

                            Not all, no. But, just like Muslims are judged by the most extreme element, non Christians hear Christian and they think of the Phelps family, and people who bomb abortion clinics, and Oklahoma City. That's just natural.

                            josda1000 wrote:

                            Agreed again. What's your point here?

                            In America, being a Christian means being a Republican, from what I can tell. CSS is sure tying those things together.

                            josda1000 wrote:

                            And I'd agree with him, to an extent. A lot of people (not all people) do think that being right-wing is being extremist, and means you're going to revolt.

                            The big issue, is the claim that the government is running 'black ops' to make this so.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            In America, being a Christian means being a Republican, from what I can tell.

                            Nah. But being a republican close to requires being christian from th way they treat the people around them. (ie, if you are one of those "blasphemors" they don't want you) I know some good christians. They are one of the minorities though. You have the uncaring majority. The say they are christian, go to the high holidays, and generally try not to screw with anyone else. They may or may not actually be a member of their church in how they view the world, but just follow along. You have the fire and brimstone minority. I've dealt with Phelps, he's a self-important jerk and proving him wrong only makes him believe he is right even more. You have the "if they ain't christian, we should convert or kill them" group. These guys are pretty much nuts. You have the "life is sacred, and I will kill anyone that takes it" group. Yea, they are small, but they are dangerous. You have the really and truly great christians. They live how they preach (if they even preach) Have a moral code and generally are good people to be friends with. They may be worried about your soul, but they won't push you or even bug you, they will help you and are genuine in their caring. They are also quiet. Just like with radical Islam, the small vocal minority is screwing it up for the average schmuck trying not to get sent to hell and just moving along in their life or the really and truly great people that should be shown off instead of drowned out by a bunch of blow hards.

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                              Yea, I always laugh at this one. My dad did start his own business. Of course he also had friends that allowed him to. Had he not had those friends, the suits in charge would never have let him start it. To start a business you need capital. product. planning. Almost no one can manage all 3 without help from the outside. The #4 was laughable at best. Government jobs are drying up now more than private sector. The private sector already adjusted. Those that are in the public sector are getting hit now because the businesses all decided to cut spending by firing people that were paying taxes. Less taxes means less money.. and well, you mentioned the missing legs already.

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                              ragnaroknrol wrote:

                              Almost no one can manage all 3 without help from the outside.

                              Agreed, you need capital and a little help. But the option is still there and valid.

                              ragnaroknrol wrote:

                              Government jobs are drying up now more than private sector. The private sector already adjusted.

                              I'm not sure about this, though I hope you're right. If you're right I'll take it back. Just cite a couple sources making your case on it.

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                                ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                Almost no one can manage all 3 without help from the outside.

                                Agreed, you need capital and a little help. But the option is still there and valid.

                                ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                Government jobs are drying up now more than private sector. The private sector already adjusted.

                                I'm not sure about this, though I hope you're right. If you're right I'll take it back. Just cite a couple sources making your case on it.

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                                josda1000 wrote:

                                Agreed, you need capital and a little help. But the option is still there and valid.

                                Try being hispanic with no collatoral. The option is NOT there. No one will invest or offer a loan to you in certain places. Hell, try being Hispanic and apply for jobs in Iowa. I'll give you a hint. Same resume to a place, only difference was the name Joe Smith vs my real name. SAME PHONE NUMBER. Guess who got a call about an interview. Go on. Oh, some people would like to claim the chance is there for every person, but it isn't. The minorities have less opportunities. It may be blatent racism, or it could just be a lack of education, or a lack of local resources. Whatever you you blame it on, it is still an issue.

                                josda1000 wrote:

                                I'm not sure about this, though I hope you're right. If you're right I'll take it back. Just cite a couple sources making your case on it.

                                I don't need to cite a couple of sources. Go to your local paper and see how much the local universities have cut this year. Heck, the state considered one of the most recession-proof is Iowa. Not much industry to tank, housing market was stable even during the bubble, and everyone needs corn. They are looking at ways to trim a few hundred million from the state budget and jobs are pretty much all they can kill without doing something stupid. Look at the Des Moines Register if you want. Wisconsin, Illinois, (heck Chicago is hurting bad), all are not in good shape.

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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  In America, being a Christian means being a Republican, from what I can tell.

                                  Nah. But being a republican close to requires being christian from th way they treat the people around them. (ie, if you are one of those "blasphemors" they don't want you) I know some good christians. They are one of the minorities though. You have the uncaring majority. The say they are christian, go to the high holidays, and generally try not to screw with anyone else. They may or may not actually be a member of their church in how they view the world, but just follow along. You have the fire and brimstone minority. I've dealt with Phelps, he's a self-important jerk and proving him wrong only makes him believe he is right even more. You have the "if they ain't christian, we should convert or kill them" group. These guys are pretty much nuts. You have the "life is sacred, and I will kill anyone that takes it" group. Yea, they are small, but they are dangerous. You have the really and truly great christians. They live how they preach (if they even preach) Have a moral code and generally are good people to be friends with. They may be worried about your soul, but they won't push you or even bug you, they will help you and are genuine in their caring. They are also quiet. Just like with radical Islam, the small vocal minority is screwing it up for the average schmuck trying not to get sent to hell and just moving along in their life or the really and truly great people that should be shown off instead of drowned out by a bunch of blow hards.

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                                  ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                  I've dealt with Phelps

                                  How did that come about ? :P

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                    I've dealt with Phelps

                                    How did that come about ? :P

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                                    Iowa State University. Before he really got big he came here 2 times a year to "minister" It ended up being him vs 2-3 theology majors and me and him getting close to being violent. I used to clear my afternoons just to spar with him. Until he stopped coming my Senior year. The man has decent charisma. He can twist stuff fairly well but lacks the ability to follow things logically once he has established a scenario. Saying it is okay to beat your wife if she is disrespectful, pointing to her and being in front of 2 guys the size of refridgerators that see she has a black eye wasn't the most brilliant thing he's done.

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                                      Iowa State University. Before he really got big he came here 2 times a year to "minister" It ended up being him vs 2-3 theology majors and me and him getting close to being violent. I used to clear my afternoons just to spar with him. Until he stopped coming my Senior year. The man has decent charisma. He can twist stuff fairly well but lacks the ability to follow things logically once he has established a scenario. Saying it is okay to beat your wife if she is disrespectful, pointing to her and being in front of 2 guys the size of refridgerators that see she has a black eye wasn't the most brilliant thing he's done.

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                                      ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                      Saying it is okay to beat your wife if she is disrespectful, pointing to her and being in front of 2 guys the size of refridgerators that see she has a black eye wasn't the most brilliant thing he's done.

                                      Wow. Yes, the guy is plainly an ass, he is plainly a master of groupthink and of controlling the debate within his own family. And of thinking that because he can sound convincing amongst believers, he is obviously right. Sounds a lot like someone who posts around here a bit....

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        Option 3: Start your own business.

                                        This one always bothers me. Start it with what exactly? There are only a handful of things the average person can do without any given equipment or floor space and a number of the profitable ones are fairly illegal. You don't have any money, you don't have any thing marketable, you can't get a job, so how exactly do you start your own business?

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                                        Distind wrote:

                                        You don't have any money, you don't have any thing marketable, you can't get a job, so how exactly do you start your own business?

                                        I wrote a computer program.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                          Saying it is okay to beat your wife if she is disrespectful, pointing to her and being in front of 2 guys the size of refridgerators that see she has a black eye wasn't the most brilliant thing he's done.

                                          Wow. Yes, the guy is plainly an ass, he is plainly a master of groupthink and of controlling the debate within his own family. And of thinking that because he can sound convincing amongst believers, he is obviously right. Sounds a lot like someone who posts around here a bit....

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          I was thinking that, actually. FYI: One of those guys watched his dad beat his mom nearly to death. He flipped out when Phelps did that and she wasn't the only one with a black eye.

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