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    rastaVnuce
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    Has anybody had any experience with it? I'm thinking of getting this for a small workgroup of 5 Macs. Is it worth it? Is it any good? Any experience is highly appreciated. Thanks.

    Where it seems there are only borderlines, Where others turn and sigh, You shall rise!

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      Has anybody had any experience with it? I'm thinking of getting this for a small workgroup of 5 Macs. Is it worth it? Is it any good? Any experience is highly appreciated. Thanks.

      Where it seems there are only borderlines, Where others turn and sigh, You shall rise!

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      Media2r
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      To start - I have no experience with them. Not much with Mac as a whole, as I am allergic to Apple. That said, I cannot see why that wouldn't work wonders if that's the route you're taking. I'm basing this on my experience with using these bad boys[^] as servers. I have these comfortably running Win2K8 R2, Exchange 2010, SQL 2K8, and other bits and bobs. If they can do it, I cannot see why the Mac Mini server should be unable to. Other than the fact that it's an Apple, of course. //L

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        Has anybody had any experience with it? I'm thinking of getting this for a small workgroup of 5 Macs. Is it worth it? Is it any good? Any experience is highly appreciated. Thanks.

        Where it seems there are only borderlines, Where others turn and sigh, You shall rise!

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        Nothing from Apple is "worth it". It would be cheaper to build a Linux (or FreeBSD) server.If you just need a file server (NAS), there's even a NAS free package available based on BSD (like OS-X is). Total cost for the hardware should be less than $500 - less than half the price of Apple's Mini Server.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          Nothing from Apple is "worth it". It would be cheaper to build a Linux (or FreeBSD) server.If you just need a file server (NAS), there's even a NAS free package available based on BSD (like OS-X is). Total cost for the hardware should be less than $500 - less than half the price of Apple's Mini Server.

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          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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          Dalek Dave
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          I use a twin drive NAS with auto backup to removable storage, and let it act as a proxy server. Suits me to the ground and only cost about £200 (apply exchange rate as required).

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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            Nothing from Apple is "worth it". It would be cheaper to build a Linux (or FreeBSD) server.If you just need a file server (NAS), there's even a NAS free package available based on BSD (like OS-X is). Total cost for the hardware should be less than $500 - less than half the price of Apple's Mini Server.

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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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            rastaVnuce
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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            Nothing from Apple is "worth it"

            I disagree... The money I'm getting for iPhone and Mac software development are quite worth it.

            Where it seems there are only borderlines, Where others turn and sigh, You shall rise!

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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              Nothing from Apple is "worth it"

              I disagree... The money I'm getting for iPhone and Mac software development are quite worth it.

              Where it seems there are only borderlines, Where others turn and sigh, You shall rise!

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              But why spend money that you don't have to? Seems to me it's a poor choice when much cheaper and equally suitable options exist. Besides, a homemade server will be infinitely more expandable (not to mention better supported) and configurable than a Mac Mini.

              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                To start - I have no experience with them. Not much with Mac as a whole, as I am allergic to Apple. That said, I cannot see why that wouldn't work wonders if that's the route you're taking. I'm basing this on my experience with using these bad boys[^] as servers. I have these comfortably running Win2K8 R2, Exchange 2010, SQL 2K8, and other bits and bobs. If they can do it, I cannot see why the Mac Mini server should be unable to. Other than the fact that it's an Apple, of course. //L

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                Just has a look at the specs for the ION330 systems, they show a dB rating for "Wood" seriously :wtf:

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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  Nothing from Apple is "worth it"

                  I disagree... The money I'm getting for iPhone and Mac software development are quite worth it.

                  Where it seems there are only borderlines, Where others turn and sigh, You shall rise!

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                  Rod Kemp
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                  See JSOP said nothing FROM Apple is worth is, you're creating software FOR Apple products. Big Difference. :rolleyes:

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    Nothing from Apple is "worth it". It would be cheaper to build a Linux (or FreeBSD) server.If you just need a file server (NAS), there's even a NAS free package available based on BSD (like OS-X is). Total cost for the hardware should be less than $500 - less than half the price of Apple's Mini Server.

                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                    NormDroid
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    Nothing from Apple is "worth it

                    Better check with Graus on that one.

                    All right, you guys, I got eight crates of Ipecac from Mort. All on my tab. Now, whoever goes the longest without puking gets the last piece of pie in the fridge.

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                      I use a twin drive NAS with auto backup to removable storage, and let it act as a proxy server. Suits me to the ground and only cost about £200 (apply exchange rate as required).

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                      Keith Barrow
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                      This is a pretty good option, I have this at home. Once I got telnet enabled, a whole world of linux goodness opened up. Macs are totally overpriced.

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                        This is a pretty good option, I have this at home. Once I got telnet enabled, a whole world of linux goodness opened up. Macs are totally overpriced.

                        Cpianism: I have a negative number in my Rep so please fix it. Chris Maunder: That isn't a bug.

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                        Dalek Dave
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                        keefb wrote:

                        Cpianism: I have a negative number in my Rep so please fix it. Chris Maunder: That isn't a bug.

                        Is that for real or just your fecund imagination?

                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Nothing from Apple is "worth it". It would be cheaper to build a Linux (or FreeBSD) server.If you just need a file server (NAS), there's even a NAS free package available based on BSD (like OS-X is). Total cost for the hardware should be less than $500 - less than half the price of Apple's Mini Server.

                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                          Dalek Dave
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                          Over-hyped, over-priced and a pain to incorporate into my companies network/emails etc. (Took a day to link one in and get the emails to work properly and I never have been able to properly administer the LAN Messenger.)

                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                            Has anybody had any experience with it? I'm thinking of getting this for a small workgroup of 5 Macs. Is it worth it? Is it any good? Any experience is highly appreciated. Thanks.

                            Where it seems there are only borderlines, Where others turn and sigh, You shall rise!

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                            If you want a network of only Macs, then it is well worth it. The $999 price for a server absolutely rocks. You may however need to connect some external USB drives to have time machine backups as the 500 GB will not be sufficient for 5 machines. The nice thing about the Mac mini server is the software and the cool hardware. Contrary, to what others say here $999 is a fantastic deal for the mac mini server. If you want a mixed network, I will go with something cheaper like the one I have Acer Aspire Revo..

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                              keefb wrote:

                              Cpianism: I have a negative number in my Rep so please fix it. Chris Maunder: That isn't a bug.

                              Is that for real or just your fecund imagination?

                              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                              For real: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3357449/Bug.aspx[^]

                              Cpianism: I have a negative number in my Rep so please fix it. Chris Maunder: That isn't a bug.

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                                Just has a look at the specs for the ION330 systems, they show a dB rating for "Wood" seriously :wtf:

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                                And they're not even kidding. The shelf mine are standing on make more noise than the units. //L

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                                  But why spend money that you don't have to? Seems to me it's a poor choice when much cheaper and equally suitable options exist. Besides, a homemade server will be infinitely more expandable (not to mention better supported) and configurable than a Mac Mini.

                                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                  -----
                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                  rastaVnuce
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                                  Cheaper and more expandable, yes. I agree. But, why better supported or more configurable? I am well aware of what can be accomplished with a Linux server. To be fair, much more of the features are available on a Linux server, than those that aren't compared to a Mac server. That is exactly why I am asking if it is worth it, since this is going to be a Mac-only network. I'm currently comparing the two possible options: Linux or Mac.

                                  Where it seems there are only borderlines, Where others turn and sigh, You shall rise!

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                                    For real: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3357449/Bug.aspx[^]

                                    Cpianism: I have a negative number in my Rep so please fix it. Chris Maunder: That isn't a bug.

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                                    Dalek Dave
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                                    Unbelievable! :laugh: Does he not get it? Thanks, that made my day!

                                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                      If you want a network of only Macs, then it is well worth it. The $999 price for a server absolutely rocks. You may however need to connect some external USB drives to have time machine backups as the 500 GB will not be sufficient for 5 machines. The nice thing about the Mac mini server is the software and the cool hardware. Contrary, to what others say here $999 is a fantastic deal for the mac mini server. If you want a mixed network, I will go with something cheaper like the one I have Acer Aspire Revo..

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                                      rastaVnuce
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                                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                      The $999 price for a server absolutely rocks.

                                      It is an awesome price, isn't it? Actually, after reading a blog post that has a title that ends with "for $999" got me considering it. XServe is quite an overkill in both money and power for what I need at the moment. The storage capacity is 2x500GB, so 1 TB. Nevertheless, adding more space through firewire is always an option.

                                      Where it seems there are only borderlines, Where others turn and sigh, You shall rise!

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        Nothing from Apple is "worth it". It would be cheaper to build a Linux (or FreeBSD) server.If you just need a file server (NAS), there's even a NAS free package available based on BSD (like OS-X is). Total cost for the hardware should be less than $500 - less than half the price of Apple's Mini Server.

                                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                        -----
                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        Linux (or FreeBSD)

                                        Ok, you mentioned FreeBSD, so I still like you. ;P

                                        Jeremy Falcon

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                                          Cheaper and more expandable, yes. I agree. But, why better supported or more configurable? I am well aware of what can be accomplished with a Linux server. To be fair, much more of the features are available on a Linux server, than those that aren't compared to a Mac server. That is exactly why I am asking if it is worth it, since this is going to be a Mac-only network. I'm currently comparing the two possible options: Linux or Mac.

                                          Where it seems there are only borderlines, Where others turn and sigh, You shall rise!

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                                          By configurable, I mean what you put in the box. You can use a laptop hard drive for booting (or even a Flash drive if you want to deal with the DMA issues). You can also increase available disk space, use whatever kinds of drives you want/have on hand, change out the CPU, and type/amount of memory. Try that with a Mac Mini. It's simply a poor choice for a server.

                                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                          -----
                                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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