Russia Today (RT): Conspiracy theories arise from underpants bomber story
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According to the supreme court decision only a couple of weeks ago, yes, they do. unfortunately. i don't agree with it at all though, of course.
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Well here's another thing: if a corporation has the right to speak, then the government can speak for itself (somehow). http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/28/usc_sec_28_00003002----000-.html[^] (15) "United States" means a. A Federal corporation Look this one up and see for yourself. Either way though, even getting off the subject of corporations and such, it's just human nature for people to do what they want to gain power and keep that power, even subconciously. Look at Thomas Jefferson. He was adamant to keep the government small and to keep few powers. When he was in office, he repealed taxes, pardoned people held under the Alien and Sedition Acts, etc. But he also had the Embargo Act, excluded blacks from carrying mail, and tried to ignore a subpoena just because he was President. His acts are powers granted to him by the Constitution. The Constitution made a new entity, which ultimately makes a new breathing being just because the people that make up that government usually just "go with the flow". It isn't a person, no. But anyone that gets near to power abuses said power. "Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely." Anyway, it seems that we're in agreement on principle here anyway, just wanted to feed some food for thought.
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Well here's another thing: if a corporation has the right to speak, then the government can speak for itself (somehow). http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/28/usc_sec_28_00003002----000-.html[^] (15) "United States" means a. A Federal corporation Look this one up and see for yourself. Either way though, even getting off the subject of corporations and such, it's just human nature for people to do what they want to gain power and keep that power, even subconciously. Look at Thomas Jefferson. He was adamant to keep the government small and to keep few powers. When he was in office, he repealed taxes, pardoned people held under the Alien and Sedition Acts, etc. But he also had the Embargo Act, excluded blacks from carrying mail, and tried to ignore a subpoena just because he was President. His acts are powers granted to him by the Constitution. The Constitution made a new entity, which ultimately makes a new breathing being just because the people that make up that government usually just "go with the flow". It isn't a person, no. But anyone that gets near to power abuses said power. "Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely." Anyway, it seems that we're in agreement on principle here anyway, just wanted to feed some food for thought.
Hmmm me hungry for food for thought ;P
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU4RjI9ZhKA[^] I understand that some can't see this RT piece, so a summation, from the video descrip: "There are more questions and conspiracy theories about the underwear bomber arising. Webster Tarpley says that Mutalab was a patsy and wasnt taken off the flight because the government was trying to get more information from him later on. There was an objection from one government agency however, Tarpley also says that government agencies did not talk with each other about this and the government knew that he was going to plant a bomb."
The basic cause of all conspiracy theories is people who are fearful of how random life is, and would rather believe that SOMEONE is in control, even if it's for evil.
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He was let on the plane WITHOUT a passport. Eyewitness reports say he was accompanied by a guy in a business suit, and a guy was video taping him the entire flight. The reaction from this is widespread expansion of the use of full body scanners. Micheal Chirdoff (former head of homeland security) has investments in the industry which indicates he knew the government would be purchasing tons of the units in the future. Also they are going into Yemen. This type of (police-state security/military/fear-mongering/unpopular legislation) expansion is continue and accelerate by using fear. Question is who is really the threat? It is our own government tyrannically abusing Americans the selectively other nations.
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Wow - you wrote this yourself. I am impressed that you took the time to have a coherent thought of your own. I'm not saying I believe it, but at least you're discussing something. Fear has always been used by the US media to control people, it's nothing new.
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The basic cause of all conspiracy theories is people who are fearful of how random life is, and would rather believe that SOMEONE is in control, even if it's for evil.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
The basic cause of all conspiracy theories is people who are fearful of how random life is, and would rather believe that SOMEONE is in control, even if it's for evil.
Kind of like religion. :doh:
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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The basic cause of all conspiracy theories is people who are fearful of how random life is, and would rather believe that SOMEONE is in control, even if it's for evil.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Every event in history IS a conspiracy. It's not about me believing it. It's a fact. Some few or many people come up with a plan, and depending on how much power these people have, they try to gain support or not for this plan. Revolutions are also conspiracies. Since revolutions usually start with normal citizens and don't have much power, they need to gain support from other like-minded individuals. The same can be said for bankers. They have enough power for themselves because of the money they have, so they don't need a lot of political power to just buy a politician. It really is this simple. It has to do with the mind. Yes, these ideas are bred randomly in different people, but they need support for whatever cause they have. Hence: conspiracy.
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Wow - you wrote this yourself. I am impressed that you took the time to have a coherent thought of your own. I'm not saying I believe it, but at least you're discussing something. Fear has always been used by the US media to control people, it's nothing new.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Yeah, keep the American public in panic, while keeping the truth in foreign media. Notice that this was found in Russia Today. Meaning, not in America. Glad you're keeping track.
My first night in the USA, I was in Seattle and I turned on the TV. It was CNN, and the show was a woman claiming that someone the police had not arrested, had obviously kidnapped some girl, and was molesting children as we spoke. I remember sitting there with my jaw on the ground, astounded that this show was legal, and that the climate of fear it promoted, passed as a news show.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
The basic cause of all conspiracy theories is people who are fearful of how random life is, and would rather believe that SOMEONE is in control, even if it's for evil.
Kind of like religion. :doh:
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
ROTFL !!! Yes, I guess that some religions, the ones without any proof, operate on a similar theory.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Every event in history IS a conspiracy. It's not about me believing it. It's a fact. Some few or many people come up with a plan, and depending on how much power these people have, they try to gain support or not for this plan. Revolutions are also conspiracies. Since revolutions usually start with normal citizens and don't have much power, they need to gain support from other like-minded individuals. The same can be said for bankers. They have enough power for themselves because of the money they have, so they don't need a lot of political power to just buy a politician. It really is this simple. It has to do with the mind. Yes, these ideas are bred randomly in different people, but they need support for whatever cause they have. Hence: conspiracy.
It is amazing how mentally castrated CG is, simple common sense seems to have escaped him.
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Every event in history IS a conspiracy. It's not about me believing it. It's a fact. Some few or many people come up with a plan, and depending on how much power these people have, they try to gain support or not for this plan. Revolutions are also conspiracies. Since revolutions usually start with normal citizens and don't have much power, they need to gain support from other like-minded individuals. The same can be said for bankers. They have enough power for themselves because of the money they have, so they don't need a lot of political power to just buy a politician. It really is this simple. It has to do with the mind. Yes, these ideas are bred randomly in different people, but they need support for whatever cause they have. Hence: conspiracy.
Well, that's an interesting theory, and i can see that it's a valid word game. I don't see how it changes what I wrote tho.
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Wow - you wrote this yourself. I am impressed that you took the time to have a coherent thought of your own. I'm not saying I believe it, but at least you're discussing something. Fear has always been used by the US media to control people, it's nothing new.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Fear has always been used by the US media to control people, it's nothing new.
Oh is that right? I had no idea :rolleyes:
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ROTFL !!! Yes, I guess that some religions, the ones without any proof, operate on a similar theory.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, I guess that some religions, the ones without any proof, operate on a similar theory.
Climate Cultists operate on that theory.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, I guess that some religions, the ones without any proof, operate on a similar theory.
Climate Cultists operate on that theory.
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Your media operates on that theory. So what ? What does that prove ? The people who warn you that a hurricane is coming, or that it's bushfire season, operate on the same theory. Because that's how your media works. Does that prove they are all lying ?
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My first night in the USA, I was in Seattle and I turned on the TV. It was CNN, and the show was a woman claiming that someone the police had not arrested, had obviously kidnapped some girl, and was molesting children as we spoke. I remember sitting there with my jaw on the ground, astounded that this show was legal, and that the climate of fear it promoted, passed as a news show.
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Yeah it's absolutely ridiculous. My mother is always in fear now, mostly because she watches the news every single day when she gets up and when she has dinner. It's just stupid. My father reads the newspaper, and that's not much better. I've finished doing such things, and I've created my own "news" lol I figure, I have to be a little better, if only entertaining, and possibly good for a laugh. I don't care how I'm perceived, but I know I won't watch such trash as CNN, as you've pointed out.
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Well, that's an interesting theory, and i can see that it's a valid word game. I don't see how it changes what I wrote tho.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I don't see how it changes what I wrote tho.
Let's get one thing straight: I'm not trying to change what you wrote. I hope to clarify what you wrote, though. You have to understand that a "conspiracy theory" is the potential idea that people are trying to change the course of history. A conspiracy is the very idea that people are collaborating to bring about change.
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, that's an interesting theory, and i can see that it's a valid word game.
All you're trying to do here is write me off. If you're unresponsive and won't open your mind to the idea that things are hitting the fan, just say so. It's ok. I won't put you down. It's not a word game. It's fact. Look up the definition of conspiracy. Read history. It's right in front of your face and you're not open to seeing it, a very simple idea.
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ROTFL !!! Yes, I guess that some religions, the ones without any proof, operate on a similar theory.
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Christian Graus wrote:
the ones without any proof
Ahem. Not to open Pandora's Box , but it seems to me that the defining element of ANY religion is it's reliance on the faith of it's adherents. Faith is supposed to transcend proof and render it unnecessary. Anyone claiming 'proof' of their religion's validity should be prepared to back it up prove their claim in a non-religious setting. And as I recall, certain religions have had a rough time in court when even trying to qualify as a religion, as opposed to a cult.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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Christian Graus wrote:
the ones without any proof
Ahem. Not to open Pandora's Box , but it seems to me that the defining element of ANY religion is it's reliance on the faith of it's adherents. Faith is supposed to transcend proof and render it unnecessary. Anyone claiming 'proof' of their religion's validity should be prepared to back it up prove their claim in a non-religious setting. And as I recall, certain religions have had a rough time in court when even trying to qualify as a religion, as opposed to a cult.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
LunaticFringe wrote:
Faith is supposed to transcend proof and render it unnecessary.
Amusingly, the bible says the opposite.
LunaticFringe wrote:
And as I recall, certain religions have had a rough time in court when even trying to qualify as a religion, as opposed to a cult.
Probably. But that's a human definition. It matters only in stopping groups that control and harm people.
LunaticFringe wrote:
Anyone claiming 'proof' of their religion's validity should be prepared to back it up prove their claim in a non-religious setting.
How can God prove Himself in a non religious way ? Why does His refusal to offer the proof that we may define, prove that He offers no proof at all ?
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Yeah it's absolutely ridiculous. My mother is always in fear now, mostly because she watches the news every single day when she gets up and when she has dinner. It's just stupid. My father reads the newspaper, and that's not much better. I've finished doing such things, and I've created my own "news" lol I figure, I have to be a little better, if only entertaining, and possibly good for a laugh. I don't care how I'm perceived, but I know I won't watch such trash as CNN, as you've pointed out.
Yeah, my mother is the same. I think that some people feel better in some perverse way to feel that someone is out to get them. Which brings us back to conspiracy theories.
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