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  • V Vagif Abilov

    I keep on reading all sorts of funny stories about American stupidity. It all reminds me Saturday Night Live sketch where actors played Japanese talking about Americans ("I must apolodzize for ze last time when I said all Americans are fat and stupid. We should not dzeneralize: some of zem fat, some of zem stupid, and some of zem are fat and stupid"). OK, I am Russian (living in Norway though). I have a good laugh reading some of these anti-American stories - they are just funny. But frankly speaking, I would be quite offended to read such things about Russians (although we deserve at least as much irony). I have a lot to criticize in my country of origin. In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system (whatever it is), laws, habits etc. But it would embarrass me if the same critics that I accept from my Russian friends I heard from foreigners. It's easier to say "I am stupid" than to accept "you are stupid". Or maybe I still have memories from my recent trip with my kids to the US, when people were so friendly and gasoline so cheap? :) Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski

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    Stan Shannon
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    Well, all I know is that being called fat and stupid by a Russian is like being called ugly by a frog - you don't want to take him too seriously, because after all, he is only a frog - still, he would appear to be an expert on the subject. ;P "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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    • V Vagif Abilov

      I keep on reading all sorts of funny stories about American stupidity. It all reminds me Saturday Night Live sketch where actors played Japanese talking about Americans ("I must apolodzize for ze last time when I said all Americans are fat and stupid. We should not dzeneralize: some of zem fat, some of zem stupid, and some of zem are fat and stupid"). OK, I am Russian (living in Norway though). I have a good laugh reading some of these anti-American stories - they are just funny. But frankly speaking, I would be quite offended to read such things about Russians (although we deserve at least as much irony). I have a lot to criticize in my country of origin. In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system (whatever it is), laws, habits etc. But it would embarrass me if the same critics that I accept from my Russian friends I heard from foreigners. It's easier to say "I am stupid" than to accept "you are stupid". Or maybe I still have memories from my recent trip with my kids to the US, when people were so friendly and gasoline so cheap? :) Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski

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      Richard Stringer
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      It really doesn't bother most of us that much. We read it, then go get in our SUV or sports car or pickup and drive by the market and get a couple of nice thick steaks and some asparagus to take home and grill on the patio while trying to decide which of the 192 channels to watch on TV that evening or maybe just pop in a video of the latest movie or read a book. Most of us know how good we have it and are grateful. For those that don't know I would suggest a little travel - it is an awakening to see the difference between the US and most of the rest of the world. Richard When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know have gone to better world, I am moved to lead a different life. Mark Twain- Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar

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      • V Vagif Abilov

        I keep on reading all sorts of funny stories about American stupidity. It all reminds me Saturday Night Live sketch where actors played Japanese talking about Americans ("I must apolodzize for ze last time when I said all Americans are fat and stupid. We should not dzeneralize: some of zem fat, some of zem stupid, and some of zem are fat and stupid"). OK, I am Russian (living in Norway though). I have a good laugh reading some of these anti-American stories - they are just funny. But frankly speaking, I would be quite offended to read such things about Russians (although we deserve at least as much irony). I have a lot to criticize in my country of origin. In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system (whatever it is), laws, habits etc. But it would embarrass me if the same critics that I accept from my Russian friends I heard from foreigners. It's easier to say "I am stupid" than to accept "you are stupid". Or maybe I still have memories from my recent trip with my kids to the US, when people were so friendly and gasoline so cheap? :) Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski

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        Nick Parker
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        Vagif Abilov wrote: Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system (whatever it is) Exactly. Vagif Abilov wrote: I have a good laugh reading some of these anti-American stories - they are just funny. But frankly speaking, I would be quite offended to read such things about Russians Vagif, stereotypes of citizens in countries exist all around the world, hopefully we are all able to separate a joke from reality. Vagif Abilov wrote: Or maybe I still have memories from my recent trip with my kids to the US, when people were so friendly and gasoline so cheap? Gas is still pretty cheap here, how much is it there, I think I paid $1.44 per gallon the other day when I was filling up. Nick Parker
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        • S Stan Shannon

          Well, all I know is that being called fat and stupid by a Russian is like being called ugly by a frog - you don't want to take him too seriously, because after all, he is only a frog - still, he would appear to be an expert on the subject. ;P "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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          Dear gawd - what happened to the "Reverend"? :omg: Jon Sagara Help me out here, Spock. I don't speak stupid.

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            It really doesn't bother most of us that much. We read it, then go get in our SUV or sports car or pickup and drive by the market and get a couple of nice thick steaks and some asparagus to take home and grill on the patio while trying to decide which of the 192 channels to watch on TV that evening or maybe just pop in a video of the latest movie or read a book. Most of us know how good we have it and are grateful. For those that don't know I would suggest a little travel - it is an awakening to see the difference between the US and most of the rest of the world. Richard When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know have gone to better world, I am moved to lead a different life. Mark Twain- Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar

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            I know that i sure am grateful that i have a roof over my head. Also that i don't have to pay for a liscense to watch my television with 192 channels, or my radio with at least 50 stations. Ahhhhh love not being taxed for such things, so glad the US had the revolution.

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            • M Mathew Lowery

              *American* I find this fourm to be quite American friendly, i find many of these anti-american stories to be quite funny. Vagif, the price of gasolin has steadily incresed. From about $ 1.00 to about $ 1.80, it really is killing my wallet. Did anybody find "The Funniest Joke in the World to be funny at all...bad british humor.

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              Mathew Lowery wrote: The Funniest Joke in the World to be funny at all...bad british humor. You mean the research thing a few weeks ago or the Monty Python Sketch? If the research then remember that although it was British research, the joke wasn't British. :-D Paul Why don't you take a good look at yourself and describe what you see - Led Zeppelin, Misty Mountain Hop

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              • V Vagif Abilov

                I keep on reading all sorts of funny stories about American stupidity. It all reminds me Saturday Night Live sketch where actors played Japanese talking about Americans ("I must apolodzize for ze last time when I said all Americans are fat and stupid. We should not dzeneralize: some of zem fat, some of zem stupid, and some of zem are fat and stupid"). OK, I am Russian (living in Norway though). I have a good laugh reading some of these anti-American stories - they are just funny. But frankly speaking, I would be quite offended to read such things about Russians (although we deserve at least as much irony). I have a lot to criticize in my country of origin. In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system (whatever it is), laws, habits etc. But it would embarrass me if the same critics that I accept from my Russian friends I heard from foreigners. It's easier to say "I am stupid" than to accept "you are stupid". Or maybe I still have memories from my recent trip with my kids to the US, when people were so friendly and gasoline so cheap? :) Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski

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                Some people hold thier nationalism close to their hearts. Others, like me, just look for the bits we can take the piss out of. Ultimately we are all the same species (well mostly :~) so anything else is irrelavent.


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                  *American* I find this fourm to be quite American friendly, i find many of these anti-american stories to be quite funny. Vagif, the price of gasolin has steadily incresed. From about $ 1.00 to about $ 1.80, it really is killing my wallet. Did anybody find "The Funniest Joke in the World to be funny at all...bad british humor.

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                  Mathew Lowery wrote: Did anybody find "The Funniest Joke in the World to be funny at all...bad british humor. Was that the one about the log? :~


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                  • M Mathew Lowery

                    I know that i sure am grateful that i have a roof over my head. Also that i don't have to pay for a liscense to watch my television with 192 channels, or my radio with at least 50 stations. Ahhhhh love not being taxed for such things, so glad the US had the revolution.

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                    Mathew Lowery wrote: television with 192 channels, or my radio with at least 50 stations each one of them chock full of crap, too. :( -c


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                    • V Vagif Abilov

                      I keep on reading all sorts of funny stories about American stupidity. It all reminds me Saturday Night Live sketch where actors played Japanese talking about Americans ("I must apolodzize for ze last time when I said all Americans are fat and stupid. We should not dzeneralize: some of zem fat, some of zem stupid, and some of zem are fat and stupid"). OK, I am Russian (living in Norway though). I have a good laugh reading some of these anti-American stories - they are just funny. But frankly speaking, I would be quite offended to read such things about Russians (although we deserve at least as much irony). I have a lot to criticize in my country of origin. In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system (whatever it is), laws, habits etc. But it would embarrass me if the same critics that I accept from my Russian friends I heard from foreigners. It's easier to say "I am stupid" than to accept "you are stupid". Or maybe I still have memories from my recent trip with my kids to the US, when people were so friendly and gasoline so cheap? :) Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski

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                      Vagif Abilov wrote: I have a good laugh reading some of these anti-American stories To be honest you can have a good laugh if you are a US citizen also. It is when you feel they really think this is typical you get upset. I have found a polite reply and (at least don't say all or most) settles things down. Of all of the items that have offened me on this list only one individual did not appologise for the wording. So overall this group is a very good group of people. Vagif Abilov wrote: gasoline so cheap? FYI I paid more for gas in 1973 than I do now. That was a real shock. In 1971 I was paying $0.19 us gal and in 73 it was almost $2.00. "Anyone can die, it is how you live that counts." Paul Watson 16 Oct 2002

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                      • J Jon Sagara

                        Dear gawd - what happened to the "Reverend"? :omg: Jon Sagara Help me out here, Spock. I don't speak stupid.

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                        Stan Shannon
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                        Hey, reverend or not, somebody has to be the bad American around here. And I'm just the guy for the job... "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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                        • V Vagif Abilov

                          I keep on reading all sorts of funny stories about American stupidity. It all reminds me Saturday Night Live sketch where actors played Japanese talking about Americans ("I must apolodzize for ze last time when I said all Americans are fat and stupid. We should not dzeneralize: some of zem fat, some of zem stupid, and some of zem are fat and stupid"). OK, I am Russian (living in Norway though). I have a good laugh reading some of these anti-American stories - they are just funny. But frankly speaking, I would be quite offended to read such things about Russians (although we deserve at least as much irony). I have a lot to criticize in my country of origin. In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system (whatever it is), laws, habits etc. But it would embarrass me if the same critics that I accept from my Russian friends I heard from foreigners. It's easier to say "I am stupid" than to accept "you are stupid". Or maybe I still have memories from my recent trip with my kids to the US, when people were so friendly and gasoline so cheap? :) Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski

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                          brianwelsch
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                          No problem for me. BW I'm an happily ignorant, overconsuming American who doesn't need to concern himself with much to get through the day. Kiss my fat ass ;P

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                            Hey, reverend or not, somebody has to be the bad American around here. And I'm just the guy for the job... "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

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                            Oh, sorry - I meant to ask, "What happened to "Reverend Stan"? I see that you have reverted to Stan Shannon. Jon Sagara Help me out here, Spock. I don't speak stupid.

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                            • V Vagif Abilov

                              I keep on reading all sorts of funny stories about American stupidity. It all reminds me Saturday Night Live sketch where actors played Japanese talking about Americans ("I must apolodzize for ze last time when I said all Americans are fat and stupid. We should not dzeneralize: some of zem fat, some of zem stupid, and some of zem are fat and stupid"). OK, I am Russian (living in Norway though). I have a good laugh reading some of these anti-American stories - they are just funny. But frankly speaking, I would be quite offended to read such things about Russians (although we deserve at least as much irony). I have a lot to criticize in my country of origin. In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system (whatever it is), laws, habits etc. But it would embarrass me if the same critics that I accept from my Russian friends I heard from foreigners. It's easier to say "I am stupid" than to accept "you are stupid". Or maybe I still have memories from my recent trip with my kids to the US, when people were so friendly and gasoline so cheap? :) Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski

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                              Most of it is good natured and has seeds of truth and in the end - we are all communicating and isn't that what really counts. Like the saying goes "If it doesn't kill you, it will only make you stronger." OR Like my late father was known to say at dinner when I didn't want to eat cooked spinach "C'mon boy, it'll put hair on your chest!!" ** Mike looks down his own shirt at his nearly hairless chest and mutters "Damn, I should of ate that nasty crap" **

                              Mike Mullikin :beer: You can't really dust for vomit. Nigel Tufnel - Spinal Tap

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                                Mathew Lowery wrote: television with 192 channels, or my radio with at least 50 stations each one of them chock full of crap, too. :( -c


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                                A hearty AMEN to that. Richard When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know have gone to better world, I am moved to lead a different life. Mark Twain- Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar

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                                • V Vagif Abilov

                                  I keep on reading all sorts of funny stories about American stupidity. It all reminds me Saturday Night Live sketch where actors played Japanese talking about Americans ("I must apolodzize for ze last time when I said all Americans are fat and stupid. We should not dzeneralize: some of zem fat, some of zem stupid, and some of zem are fat and stupid"). OK, I am Russian (living in Norway though). I have a good laugh reading some of these anti-American stories - they are just funny. But frankly speaking, I would be quite offended to read such things about Russians (although we deserve at least as much irony). I have a lot to criticize in my country of origin. In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system (whatever it is), laws, habits etc. But it would embarrass me if the same critics that I accept from my Russian friends I heard from foreigners. It's easier to say "I am stupid" than to accept "you are stupid". Or maybe I still have memories from my recent trip with my kids to the US, when people were so friendly and gasoline so cheap? :) Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski

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                                  Giles
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                                  Vagif Abilov wrote: In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system Who is not. Okay, maybe except for Iraq. :-D They seem veeeeeery happy.

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                                    Mathew Lowery wrote: television with 192 channels, or my radio with at least 50 stations each one of them chock full of crap, too. :( -c


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                                    Mathew Lowery
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                                    Yes this is true, you Brits trade a liscense to watch and for Advertisment free. Yes all television is full of crap i know. Very true.

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                                    • V Vagif Abilov

                                      I keep on reading all sorts of funny stories about American stupidity. It all reminds me Saturday Night Live sketch where actors played Japanese talking about Americans ("I must apolodzize for ze last time when I said all Americans are fat and stupid. We should not dzeneralize: some of zem fat, some of zem stupid, and some of zem are fat and stupid"). OK, I am Russian (living in Norway though). I have a good laugh reading some of these anti-American stories - they are just funny. But frankly speaking, I would be quite offended to read such things about Russians (although we deserve at least as much irony). I have a lot to criticize in my country of origin. In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system (whatever it is), laws, habits etc. But it would embarrass me if the same critics that I accept from my Russian friends I heard from foreigners. It's easier to say "I am stupid" than to accept "you are stupid". Or maybe I still have memories from my recent trip with my kids to the US, when people were so friendly and gasoline so cheap? :) Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      Doesn't bother me one bit. Thank God for freedom of speech. Otherwise, we'd be so repressed we wouldn't even have the possibility of finding out the truth of things. Like some other countries I could name... Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.

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                                        Some people hold thier nationalism close to their hearts. Others, like me, just look for the bits we can take the piss out of. Ultimately we are all the same species (well mostly :~) so anything else is irrelavent.


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                                        David Wulff wrote: Ultimately we are all the same species You mean aside from the sheep in your sig? ;P Norm Almond: I seen some GUI's in my life but WTF is this mess ;-) Leppie: I made an app for my sister and she wouldnt use it till it was colorful enough:) Norm:good point leppie, from that statement I can only deduce that this GUI must be aimed at children:laugh: Leppie:My sister is 25:eek: -Norm on the MailMagic GUI

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                                          Vagif Abilov wrote: In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system Who is not. Okay, maybe except for Iraq. :-D They seem veeeeeery happy.

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                                          Giles wrote: In fact, Russian people are typically quite negative about their political system Who is not. Okay, maybe except for Iraq. They seem veeeeeery happy. I remember a political cartoon, it was a voting booth. Two signs read "Saddam" & "other" above the other the lever was attached to a string which was atached to a gun trigger.

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