This is why I'm not a fan of Apple...
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iPhone developers angry as Apple purges adult apps Linky[^] I don't own an iPhone, but FFS, if you don't like an app don't download it. If you don't want your children to see the app and they continue to do so, take the phone off of them. It's not hard. I object to having Steve Jobs tell me what I can and I can't download. :|
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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iPhone developers angry as Apple purges adult apps Linky[^] I don't own an iPhone, but FFS, if you don't like an app don't download it. If you don't want your children to see the app and they continue to do so, take the phone off of them. It's not hard. I object to having Steve Jobs tell me what I can and I can't download. :|
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
Seconded!
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Trollslayer wrote:
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iPhone developers angry as Apple purges adult apps Linky[^] I don't own an iPhone, but FFS, if you don't like an app don't download it. If you don't want your children to see the app and they continue to do so, take the phone off of them. It's not hard. I object to having Steve Jobs tell me what I can and I can't download. :|
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
I was wondering why I stopped seeing almost bare boobies in every catagory of game... Personally I would have gone a different route. Somebody said it already though. Make an adult catagory. Split it into sub-groups and call it done. If it is an 18+ game, put it there. Yea, they are probably going to have to change this, considering that it is going to make a lot of people mad and it is getting press.
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iPhone developers angry as Apple purges adult apps Linky[^] I don't own an iPhone, but FFS, if you don't like an app don't download it. If you don't want your children to see the app and they continue to do so, take the phone off of them. It's not hard. I object to having Steve Jobs tell me what I can and I can't download. :|
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
Those kind of actions more than anything will drive people over to the competition. For all it's other flaws I can fill my winmo phone up with any depraved thing I can think of. Or, software that can actually view Flash, imagine that apple... Also a perk is that nobody can come along and delete it for me.
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Those kind of actions more than anything will drive people over to the competition. For all it's other flaws I can fill my winmo phone up with any depraved thing I can think of. Or, software that can actually view Flash, imagine that apple... Also a perk is that nobody can come along and delete it for me.
thrakazog wrote:
Also a perk is that nobody can come along and delete it for me.
Give the virus writers some time... ;)
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Those kind of actions more than anything will drive people over to the competition. For all it's other flaws I can fill my winmo phone up with any depraved thing I can think of. Or, software that can actually view Flash, imagine that apple... Also a perk is that nobody can come along and delete it for me.
There was an article on Rueters yesterday which gave data on WinMo's market share. It was >13% in 2008, and down to just over 8% last year. So whatever benefits the devices may actually have, they've been so poorly marketed that they'll probably disappear completely sometime soon. An excellent demonstration of the fact that while MS dominates the desktop, for one reason or another (corporate arrogance making it impossible to listen to what customers really want, as opposed to telling them what they need?), MS is not going to last in the mobile market. IMHO, of course. [edit] spelling erors ;) [/edit]
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
modified on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:30 PM
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There was an article on Rueters yesterday which gave data on WinMo's market share. It was >13% in 2008, and down to just over 8% last year. So whatever benefits the devices may actually have, they've been so poorly marketed that they'll probably disappear completely sometime soon. An excellent demonstration of the fact that while MS dominates the desktop, for one reason or another (corporate arrogance making it impossible to listen to what customers really want, as opposed to telling them what they need?), MS is not going to last in the mobile market. IMHO, of course. [edit] spelling erors ;) [/edit]
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
modified on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 2:30 PM
Without actually doing the hard work of reading the article... I wonder if the drop in market share was due to all the new people entering the market for the first time with an Iphone, Android, or Blackberry. Microsoft might be maintaining their install base while the a new market explodes around them. Or not. Either way. Bring on WinMo 7! :)
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Without actually doing the hard work of reading the article... I wonder if the drop in market share was due to all the new people entering the market for the first time with an Iphone, Android, or Blackberry. Microsoft might be maintaining their install base while the a new market explodes around them. Or not. Either way. Bring on WinMo 7! :)
I don't know; I don't recall seeing that defined. Doesn't mean it wasn't there, of course. But you're right - they may be simply experiencing less growth than the others, as opposed to seeing the user base actually diminish. Either way, though... (as you say ;) ) I wouldn't be surprised to see them cancel the entire WinMo7 project and just pull the plug. They've got to either do that, or, as the article was saying, buy one of the hardware manufacturers and get on a more even footing with Apple. The article said there had been talk of them buying Nokia.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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iPhone developers angry as Apple purges adult apps Linky[^] I don't own an iPhone, but FFS, if you don't like an app don't download it. If you don't want your children to see the app and they continue to do so, take the phone off of them. It's not hard. I object to having Steve Jobs tell me what I can and I can't download. :|
"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" ~ Albert Einstein "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
From the beginning, Steve Jobs has been all about what is best for Apple. This is no different. He has decided that his "store" is no longer going to carry certain products that it previously sold. I think he is well within his rights to be able to do that. If a group of developers feel that they have been let down, well that's just an example of someone hitching their wagon to the wrong horse. :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
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I don't know; I don't recall seeing that defined. Doesn't mean it wasn't there, of course. But you're right - they may be simply experiencing less growth than the others, as opposed to seeing the user base actually diminish. Either way, though... (as you say ;) ) I wouldn't be surprised to see them cancel the entire WinMo7 project and just pull the plug. They've got to either do that, or, as the article was saying, buy one of the hardware manufacturers and get on a more even footing with Apple. The article said there had been talk of them buying Nokia.
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LunaticFringe wrote:
there had been talk of them buying Nokia
Good Religious Fantasy Figure, I hope that's wrong. It would make a hell of a lot more sense that their decade-long relationship with HTC was expanded upon in some shape or form.
LunaticFringe wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised to see them cancel the entire WinMo7 project and just pull the plug
Are you serious? That seems rather illogical for a number of reasons. First off they have spent the equivalent of the national budget of a small country on the development of WinPhone 7. Secondly the press WinPhone 7 is generating closely resembles the hallelujah chorus that was the world press prior to the launch of Windows 7. Although I have been using WinMo for years, being well aware of its many caveats, I have yet to join the band wagon singing praise to WinPhone 7, but that's simply because there are some fundamental properties of the OS that have yet to be fully disclosed. That said, it does indeed look promising. But until I know for sure, I am very happy with my HTC HD2 - for a whole lot of reasons. Not the least of which being the ability I have to resoft the phone with whatever WinMo ROM I choose, and the fact that Ballmer doesn't give a rats ass what applications I install onto it. //L
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LunaticFringe wrote:
there had been talk of them buying Nokia
Good Religious Fantasy Figure, I hope that's wrong. It would make a hell of a lot more sense that their decade-long relationship with HTC was expanded upon in some shape or form.
LunaticFringe wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised to see them cancel the entire WinMo7 project and just pull the plug
Are you serious? That seems rather illogical for a number of reasons. First off they have spent the equivalent of the national budget of a small country on the development of WinPhone 7. Secondly the press WinPhone 7 is generating closely resembles the hallelujah chorus that was the world press prior to the launch of Windows 7. Although I have been using WinMo for years, being well aware of its many caveats, I have yet to join the band wagon singing praise to WinPhone 7, but that's simply because there are some fundamental properties of the OS that have yet to be fully disclosed. That said, it does indeed look promising. But until I know for sure, I am very happy with my HTC HD2 - for a whole lot of reasons. Not the least of which being the ability I have to resoft the phone with whatever WinMo ROM I choose, and the fact that Ballmer doesn't give a rats ass what applications I install onto it. //L
Media2r wrote:
Good Religious Fantasy Figure,
Media2r wrote:
Are you serious? That seems rather illogical for a number of reasons
These were two options open to them that were discussed in the Rueters article. Ballmer has apparently publicly dissed the Nokia option, but no-one seemed to take it very seriously. The feeling was that the negative trend in market share wasn't going to reverse itself on the strength of a new OS alone. And MS can certainly afford to write it off it turns into an albatross.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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Media2r wrote:
Good Religious Fantasy Figure,
Media2r wrote:
Are you serious? That seems rather illogical for a number of reasons
These were two options open to them that were discussed in the Rueters article. Ballmer has apparently publicly dissed the Nokia option, but no-one seemed to take it very seriously. The feeling was that the negative trend in market share wasn't going to reverse itself on the strength of a new OS alone. And MS can certainly afford to write it off it turns into an albatross.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
Oh, I am sure that they can afford it, but I am equally sure that they would do so extremely reluctantly. As for the albatross remark, judging by the data so far it seems WinPhone 7 will be on par or better. Of course, this is a guesstemation at this point, more based on feeling than actual data. That said; I still believe they can and will make it exciting. //L
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Oh, I am sure that they can afford it, but I am equally sure that they would do so extremely reluctantly. As for the albatross remark, judging by the data so far it seems WinPhone 7 will be on par or better. Of course, this is a guesstemation at this point, more based on feeling than actual data. That said; I still believe they can and will make it exciting. //L
Media2r wrote:
As for the albatross remark, judging by the data so far it seems WinPhone 7 will be on par or better.
Huh? What data? The article cites the latest sales/market share numbers.
Media2r wrote:
Of course, this is a guesstemation at this point, more based on feeling than actual data.
Ah. So you haven't read the article, and you aren't familiar with the market share figures it cited.
Media2r wrote:
That said; I still believe they can and will make it exciting.
Oh, absolutely. We'll just disregard the totality of their performance in the mobile market to date, and blindly trumpet the greatness of WinMo and the inevitable triumph of WinMo7. In the meantime, I'm working on porting mobile apps to Android. :laugh: [edit] typo [/edit]
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
modified on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:58 PM
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Media2r wrote:
As for the albatross remark, judging by the data so far it seems WinPhone 7 will be on par or better.
Huh? What data? The article cites the latest sales/market share numbers.
Media2r wrote:
Of course, this is a guesstemation at this point, more based on feeling than actual data.
Ah. So you haven't read the article, and you aren't familiar with the market share figures it cited.
Media2r wrote:
That said; I still believe they can and will make it exciting.
Oh, absolutely. We'll just disregard the totality of their performance in the mobile market to date, and blindly trumpet the greatness of WinMo and the inevitable triumph of WinMo7. In the meantime, I'm working on porting mobile apps to Android. :laugh: [edit] typo [/edit]
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modified on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:58 PM
LunaticFringe wrote:
Huh? What data? The article cites the latest sales/market share numbers.
Please read the following sentence as well.
LunaticFringe wrote:
Ah. So you haven't read the article, and you aren't familiar with the market share figures it cited.
No, I haven't. You conveniently omitted clickety in the OP. But I suspect I would be equally unimpressed either way. I've seen a lot of statistics on this, particularly over the last year or so, and I've yet to see anything quite as indicative of WinMo/WinPhone's inevitable downfall as any of your remarks.
LunaticFringe wrote:
Oh, absolutely. We'll just disregard their totality of their performance in the mobile market to date, and blindly trumpet the greatness of WinMo and the inevitable triumph of WinMo7.
I have no idea where you got that from. I have clearly stated in every post on this topic that I both like and dislike MS' mobile offering. Further more, I have never stated that I view neither the success nor failure of WinPhone 7 to be inevitable. Quite thee contrary, in fact. That said, even though they have clearly fallen asleep in class, MS pretty much INVENTED the smartphone market.
LunaticFringe wrote:
In the meantime, I'm working on porting mobile apps to Android.
Excellent, they deserve to have good apps on a device that seems very promising. This will be my last post in this thread, as I find your approach both irksome and tiresome. //L
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LunaticFringe wrote:
Huh? What data? The article cites the latest sales/market share numbers.
Please read the following sentence as well.
LunaticFringe wrote:
Ah. So you haven't read the article, and you aren't familiar with the market share figures it cited.
No, I haven't. You conveniently omitted clickety in the OP. But I suspect I would be equally unimpressed either way. I've seen a lot of statistics on this, particularly over the last year or so, and I've yet to see anything quite as indicative of WinMo/WinPhone's inevitable downfall as any of your remarks.
LunaticFringe wrote:
Oh, absolutely. We'll just disregard their totality of their performance in the mobile market to date, and blindly trumpet the greatness of WinMo and the inevitable triumph of WinMo7.
I have no idea where you got that from. I have clearly stated in every post on this topic that I both like and dislike MS' mobile offering. Further more, I have never stated that I view neither the success nor failure of WinPhone 7 to be inevitable. Quite thee contrary, in fact. That said, even though they have clearly fallen asleep in class, MS pretty much INVENTED the smartphone market.
LunaticFringe wrote:
In the meantime, I'm working on porting mobile apps to Android.
Excellent, they deserve to have good apps on a device that seems very promising. This will be my last post in this thread, as I find your approach both irksome and tiresome. //L
Indeed. A simple discussion of market share numbers seems to have turned a little bitter. Funny, it seemed to be fine until you started up.
Media2r wrote:
This will be my last post in this thread, as I find your approach both irksome and tiresome.
And as I said, it seemed to be a fairly civil discussion till you joined in. You seem to take any critical comment on WinMo as a personal challenge or insult; I've tried to maintain a civil tone, nonetheless. I'm not sure what your issue is with this, and I'm really not interested.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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From the beginning, Steve Jobs has been all about what is best for Apple. This is no different. He has decided that his "store" is no longer going to carry certain products that it previously sold. I think he is well within his rights to be able to do that. If a group of developers feel that they have been let down, well that's just an example of someone hitching their wagon to the wrong horse. :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
I agree. Also, if they can't come up with a more creative idea than some porn app, well, boo-f'in-hoo. But I must admit that I find the ban of the wobble app curious. Just because someone has used the app to make breasts wobble, it shouldn't brand the app as a "porn app".
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