WTF?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/03/armed_and_ready_to_shop.html[^] I had to check the date but it's not April 1st. You need guns to go shopping? So you're wearing a handgun and I want your wallet, I'm not going to shoot you first before taking it?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/03/armed_and_ready_to_shop.html[^] I had to check the date but it's not April 1st. You need guns to go shopping? So you're wearing a handgun and I want your wallet, I'm not going to shoot you first before taking it?
I find that carrying guns just adds to the tension and the mess. If you have a gun, you're more likely to use it, especially for really silly things. Then the problems get much bigger really quickly. His comment, quote: "Criminals never open carry" is just as stupid as her comment "I can guarantee if I am going to my car late at night and someone sees me carrying a gun they won't make me a victim.". So all a criminal has to do to blend in with the good guys is to open carry? I'm sure that's beyond simple to do; what then? In her case, its alright if she's forewarned, well, it happens that people can sneak up on others. What happens if criminals or others with nefarious intentions develop "smarter" ways of getting at her (from a distance), how good is that gun now? I'll shut up now because this will develop into SB material double plus quick. [edit] fixed typo and layout
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/03/armed_and_ready_to_shop.html[^] I had to check the date but it's not April 1st. You need guns to go shopping? So you're wearing a handgun and I want your wallet, I'm not going to shoot you first before taking it?
Classic SB material. Never having lived in a country where guns are legal I can't have a valid opinion. The only time I handled a hand gun I was fascinated right up till when the Vietnam vet who owned it shot a bird out of a tree across the creek!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/03/armed_and_ready_to_shop.html[^] I had to check the date but it's not April 1st. You need guns to go shopping? So you're wearing a handgun and I want your wallet, I'm not going to shoot you first before taking it?
Bit sick of this "right to bear arms" cr@p. It's been misinterpreted more ways than the Bible -- this time by idiots who just want to play cowboy in supermarkets. After a few of them have been disarmed by criminals, and their guns have been used for murder or bank robbery, maybe things will change back to the more civilised option.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/03/armed_and_ready_to_shop.html[^] I had to check the date but it's not April 1st. You need guns to go shopping? So you're wearing a handgun and I want your wallet, I'm not going to shoot you first before taking it?
This does nothing but lend credibility to the misconception that all Americans are idiots. "Guns don't kill people, people kill people". Well, yeah. But I'd argue, as a person, that it is significantly easier and more effective to kill someone by using a gun than by using a toothpick. The right to brear arms? Dumbest ruling on planet earth. There is a common-known sociological concept called escalation. In broad strokes: if you fight with your fists, I'll fight with a bat. If you fight with a bat, I'll fight with a sword. If you fight with a sword, I'll fight with a pistol. If you fight with a pistol, I'll fight with a machine gun. And on it goes. Why is it that countries with stringent gun laws both feel and are safer? //L
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I find that carrying guns just adds to the tension and the mess. If you have a gun, you're more likely to use it, especially for really silly things. Then the problems get much bigger really quickly. His comment, quote: "Criminals never open carry" is just as stupid as her comment "I can guarantee if I am going to my car late at night and someone sees me carrying a gun they won't make me a victim.". So all a criminal has to do to blend in with the good guys is to open carry? I'm sure that's beyond simple to do; what then? In her case, its alright if she's forewarned, well, it happens that people can sneak up on others. What happens if criminals or others with nefarious intentions develop "smarter" ways of getting at her (from a distance), how good is that gun now? I'll shut up now because this will develop into SB material double plus quick. [edit] fixed typo and layout
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In the US concealed carry permit holders are orders of magnitude less likely to commit a violent crime than random members of the population.
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I wasn't implying that anyone carrying a gun, concealed or otherwise, becomes a trigger happy freak. I just said that the presence of guns is certainly not a deterrent for their use in a situation, and in some cases quite silly.
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I wasn't implying that anyone carrying a gun, concealed or otherwise, becomes a trigger happy freak. I just said that the presence of guns is certainly not a deterrent for their use in a situation, and in some cases quite silly.
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In the US concealed carry permit holders are orders of magnitude less likely to commit a violent crime than random members of the population.
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Is there any kind of vetting before a concealed carry permit is issued?
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Is there any kind of vetting before a concealed carry permit is issued?
Except in the IIRC two states (Alaska and New Hampshire) that don't require any permit at all yes. They're administered at the state level so there's no uniform standard but AFAIK it normally includes both a background check and some degree of training to make sure permit holders know basic gun safety, can shoot reasonably well, and understand the local laws that will apply if they're ever forced to draw/open fire.
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Except in the IIRC two states (Alaska and New Hampshire) that don't require any permit at all yes. They're administered at the state level so there's no uniform standard but AFAIK it normally includes both a background check and some degree of training to make sure permit holders know basic gun safety, can shoot reasonably well, and understand the local laws that will apply if they're ever forced to draw/open fire.
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So given that Concealed Carry permit holders are a group of people that the government have agreed are not too likely to go on a rampage with a gun it's not much of a surprise that they commit fewer violent offences. I asume that for a start you wouldn't issue one to someone who has a history of violent offences?
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So given that Concealed Carry permit holders are a group of people that the government have agreed are not too likely to go on a rampage with a gun it's not much of a surprise that they commit fewer violent offences. I asume that for a start you wouldn't issue one to someone who has a history of violent offences?