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  • I Ian Shlasko

    Ya know, I saw that a couple years ago... I have brief memories of the characters sitting in their dark little bedrooms watching mindless violence via hologram... The film wasn't very memorable... *checks it out on Wikipedia* Ohhhh right... The old emotion-suppression thing... The term "Epic fail" comes to mind... Equilibrium[^] did a MUCH better job of it.

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    Ian Shlasko wrote:

    Equilibrium

    Was that the complete duffer of a film starring Christian "Can't act for toffee" Bale and featuring some hokum about martial arts shooting (or something like that)?

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      Just watched this old movie for the first time yesterday... I know it's supposed to be required viewing for all self-proclaimed geeks (Along with Blade Runner, which was much better), so I dutifully put in the two hours to subject my neurons to this incredibly dull film... Now I realize this movie was made several years before I was born... But come on... Were all movies that SLOW? More than a few times, when the characters were escaping from the city and seeing all of those "new" (old) things, and going on and on about how strange they were, I found myself saying out loud... "Ok, we get it, let's move on..." Sure, the different perspective is kind of interesting for a couple minutes, and I assume that it was new and revolutionary when it first came out... But it was just so painfully slow and drawn-out... Not as bad as "2001," but still... Ugh... Oh, and on a side note... First time I saw the main character, the first thing that went through my mind was, "Hello, Austin. I'm Basil Exposition, from British Intelligence." Fun little laugh...

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      Christopher Duncan
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      Logan's Run was dull, Blade Runner was dismal. Paid to see them both when they came out, wouldn't watch either one again for free. And 2001 was simply excruciating (much like the first Star Trek). No, they weren't all this dull back then. My only guess is that these guys assumed the audience would be on the same drugs they were taking when they made them.

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        Ian Shlasko wrote:

        Equilibrium

        Was that the complete duffer of a film starring Christian "Can't act for toffee" Bale and featuring some hokum about martial arts shooting (or something like that)?

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        Yes, but it was actually a really cool movie :) The fight scenes were better than in most films, in my opinion... They had this weird style of gunfighting where they would shoot and dodge based on the most statistically-likely locations of the enemies and incoming fire... Interesting concept.

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          Yes, but it was actually a really cool movie :) The fight scenes were better than in most films, in my opinion... They had this weird style of gunfighting where they would shoot and dodge based on the most statistically-likely locations of the enemies and incoming fire... Interesting concept.

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          The Gun Kata - which oddly didn't turn out the way the director originally wanted it but it made sense for the Clerics to be more robotic in their form of it than he wanted so the result worked. He changed it to be more flowing for Ultraviolet though. I mean it never would've worked but still, the final runup was quite a work.

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            Logan's Run was dull, Blade Runner was dismal. Paid to see them both when they came out, wouldn't watch either one again for free. And 2001 was simply excruciating (much like the first Star Trek). No, they weren't all this dull back then. My only guess is that these guys assumed the audience would be on the same drugs they were taking when they made them.

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            2001, I never actually made it through... When I was REALLY young, I have vague memories of one of those kiddie books-on-tape... Like a 10-page baby version of 2001, ending with the computer voice singing "Daisy"... Then, sometime during college, I decided to watch the actual movie... I remember it being about ten minutes of silence, then another half hour of just monkeys grunting... The first words were spoken a good 45 minutes in... I don't remember watching much past that... I was so sick of it by then, that I just couldn't go on.

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            • I Ian Shlasko

              Just watched this old movie for the first time yesterday... I know it's supposed to be required viewing for all self-proclaimed geeks (Along with Blade Runner, which was much better), so I dutifully put in the two hours to subject my neurons to this incredibly dull film... Now I realize this movie was made several years before I was born... But come on... Were all movies that SLOW? More than a few times, when the characters were escaping from the city and seeing all of those "new" (old) things, and going on and on about how strange they were, I found myself saying out loud... "Ok, we get it, let's move on..." Sure, the different perspective is kind of interesting for a couple minutes, and I assume that it was new and revolutionary when it first came out... But it was just so painfully slow and drawn-out... Not as bad as "2001," but still... Ugh... Oh, and on a side note... First time I saw the main character, the first thing that went through my mind was, "Hello, Austin. I'm Basil Exposition, from British Intelligence." Fun little laugh...

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              Now hey. I can't agree with you on this. It had Jenny Agutter and Farrah Fawcett in. For people of my age, that's a guaranteed win-win situation.

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              • I Ian Shlasko

                Just watched this old movie for the first time yesterday... I know it's supposed to be required viewing for all self-proclaimed geeks (Along with Blade Runner, which was much better), so I dutifully put in the two hours to subject my neurons to this incredibly dull film... Now I realize this movie was made several years before I was born... But come on... Were all movies that SLOW? More than a few times, when the characters were escaping from the city and seeing all of those "new" (old) things, and going on and on about how strange they were, I found myself saying out loud... "Ok, we get it, let's move on..." Sure, the different perspective is kind of interesting for a couple minutes, and I assume that it was new and revolutionary when it first came out... But it was just so painfully slow and drawn-out... Not as bad as "2001," but still... Ugh... Oh, and on a side note... First time I saw the main character, the first thing that went through my mind was, "Hello, Austin. I'm Basil Exposition, from British Intelligence." Fun little laugh...

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                Oh dear God, you've just reminded me of that interminable sh1te-fest, Zardoz. :(

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                • I Ian Shlasko

                  2001, I never actually made it through... When I was REALLY young, I have vague memories of one of those kiddie books-on-tape... Like a 10-page baby version of 2001, ending with the computer voice singing "Daisy"... Then, sometime during college, I decided to watch the actual movie... I remember it being about ten minutes of silence, then another half hour of just monkeys grunting... The first words were spoken a good 45 minutes in... I don't remember watching much past that... I was so sick of it by then, that I just couldn't go on.

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                  Ian Shlasko wrote:

                  kiddie books-on-tape... Like a 10-page baby version of 2001, ending with the computer voice singing "Daisy"...

                  I had that book too! I listened to it several times a day. Almost wore the tape deck out. Never did watch the movie though... It's saying something about a movie when you can condense it down to a 10 minute audio book for kids that they'll listen to over and over but can't get adults to watch the whole production. :laugh:

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                    The Gun Kata - which oddly didn't turn out the way the director originally wanted it but it made sense for the Clerics to be more robotic in their form of it than he wanted so the result worked. He changed it to be more flowing for Ultraviolet though. I mean it never would've worked but still, the final runup was quite a work.

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                    Heh, I was going to mention Ultraviolet... The fighting style in that one DID seem similar... Another very cool movie... I like when she goes through the weapon detectors, and the machine starts showing holograms of hundreds of weapons... She's got that "Yeah, what are you gonna do?" look, and the security guards look like they're about to scream in terror. Kind of like Neo going through that metal detector in The Matrix, but much cooler.

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                    • I Ian Shlasko

                      2001, I never actually made it through... When I was REALLY young, I have vague memories of one of those kiddie books-on-tape... Like a 10-page baby version of 2001, ending with the computer voice singing "Daisy"... Then, sometime during college, I decided to watch the actual movie... I remember it being about ten minutes of silence, then another half hour of just monkeys grunting... The first words were spoken a good 45 minutes in... I don't remember watching much past that... I was so sick of it by then, that I just couldn't go on.

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                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                      Ian Shlasko wrote:

                      I was so sick of it by then, that I just couldn't go on.

                      Blasphemer!!! 2001 was amaaaazing. Okay, really, best way into 2001 is read some Clarke. Then read his "The Sentinel". Then go and see it on a big screen with great sound. Sit back and let it wash over you. Great film (though Forbidden Planet and Serenity are still my 2 favorite scifi films).

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                      • I Ian Shlasko

                        Just watched this old movie for the first time yesterday... I know it's supposed to be required viewing for all self-proclaimed geeks (Along with Blade Runner, which was much better), so I dutifully put in the two hours to subject my neurons to this incredibly dull film... Now I realize this movie was made several years before I was born... But come on... Were all movies that SLOW? More than a few times, when the characters were escaping from the city and seeing all of those "new" (old) things, and going on and on about how strange they were, I found myself saying out loud... "Ok, we get it, let's move on..." Sure, the different perspective is kind of interesting for a couple minutes, and I assume that it was new and revolutionary when it first came out... But it was just so painfully slow and drawn-out... Not as bad as "2001," but still... Ugh... Oh, and on a side note... First time I saw the main character, the first thing that went through my mind was, "Hello, Austin. I'm Basil Exposition, from British Intelligence." Fun little laugh...

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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        Were all movies that SLOW?

                        Yes. Compare, for example, David Lynchs "Dune" from 1984, maketed as "action movie" at that time. Today, it's "suspense" at best. (Still, Lynch is excellent in setting the atmosphere, the tone.) If you go back in time further, there's more and more "slow explanation". If you arrive at Charlie Chaplins great movies, Langs Metropolis or at Eisensteins Potemkin, you are so slow the MTV generation already falls asleep by looking at the download progress bar. :rolleyes: (though these are the movies that survived the tides of times. The early slapstick strips certainly were faster - not as fast as today, though).

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                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          kiddie books-on-tape... Like a 10-page baby version of 2001, ending with the computer voice singing "Daisy"...

                          I had that book too! I listened to it several times a day. Almost wore the tape deck out. Never did watch the movie though... It's saying something about a movie when you can condense it down to a 10 minute audio book for kids that they'll listen to over and over but can't get adults to watch the whole production. :laugh:

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                          Ian Shlasko
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                          Haha, so I'm not the only one! Do yourself a favor... Do NOT watch the movie... Unless you smoke weed (I don't), in which case, get stoned out of your mind and give it a shot. Friends have told me that it's actually watchable in that state.

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                          • I Ian Shlasko

                            Yes, but it was actually a really cool movie :) The fight scenes were better than in most films, in my opinion... They had this weird style of gunfighting where they would shoot and dodge based on the most statistically-likely locations of the enemies and incoming fire... Interesting concept.

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                            Ian Shlasko wrote:

                            Yes, but it was actually a really cool movie

                            *snigger* It was a a duffer! I remember now, it also had Sean "I'm from up north me" Bean in it.

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                            • I Ian Shlasko

                              Heh, I was going to mention Ultraviolet... The fighting style in that one DID seem similar... Another very cool movie... I like when she goes through the weapon detectors, and the machine starts showing holograms of hundreds of weapons... She's got that "Yeah, what are you gonna do?" look, and the security guards look like they're about to scream in terror. Kind of like Neo going through that metal detector in The Matrix, but much cooler.

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                              "Number of weapons........ .... .... (er) Lots!" says happy cheery weapon scanner :)

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                                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                Were all movies that SLOW?

                                Yes. Compare, for example, David Lynchs "Dune" from 1984, maketed as "action movie" at that time. Today, it's "suspense" at best. (Still, Lynch is excellent in setting the atmosphere, the tone.) If you go back in time further, there's more and more "slow explanation". If you arrive at Charlie Chaplins great movies, Langs Metropolis or at Eisensteins Potemkin, you are so slow the MTV generation already falls asleep by looking at the download progress bar. :rolleyes: (though these are the movies that survived the tides of times. The early slapstick strips certainly were faster - not as fast as today, though).

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                                peterchen wrote:

                                David Lynchs "Dune"

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                                  Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                  I was so sick of it by then, that I just couldn't go on.

                                  Blasphemer!!! 2001 was amaaaazing. Okay, really, best way into 2001 is read some Clarke. Then read his "The Sentinel". Then go and see it on a big screen with great sound. Sit back and let it wash over you. Great film (though Forbidden Planet and Serenity are still my 2 favorite scifi films).

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                                  Forbidden Planet... eh... I actually remember seeing an off-Broadway show of that... Vague memories, but it was eh... Serenity rocks, of course, though isn't my favorite. My all-time favorite sci-fi USED to be Minority Report, but I just can't deal with Tom Cruise anymore, due to a certain cult that might remain nameless... My #1 favorite is V for Vendetta, but I don't know if you can call that sci-fi.

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                                    "Number of weapons........ .... .... (er) Lots!" says happy cheery weapon scanner :)

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                                    So cool... I love the dimensional collapsing tech, or whatever they called it... Reduce physical objects to two dimensions and just stack them... Brilliant :)

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                                      Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                      Yes, but it was actually a really cool movie

                                      *snigger* It was a a duffer! I remember now, it also had Sean "I'm from up north me" Bean in it.

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                                      Ian Shlasko
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                                      Come on... Tell me it wasn't cool at the end, when they have him on the polygraph, and it just suddenly flat-lines... That's gotta be one of the best "Violence is about to ensue" moments ever...

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                                        Now hey. I can't agree with you on this. It had Jenny Agutter and Farrah Fawcett in. For people of my age, that's a guaranteed win-win situation.

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                                        Come on, man... The plot... Ignore the nudity for a moment :)

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                                          So cool... I love the dimensional collapsing tech, or whatever they called it... Reduce physical objects to two dimensions and just stack them... Brilliant :)

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                                          Good old Tesseract tech. Making anime hammerspace a reality :) On a related note, I did notice that the paper mobile phone she used actually had a prototype shown last year in Tokyo.

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