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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    Well, read the following and decide for yourself: http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/11/born-to-be-a-billionaire-entrepreneurs-management-assessment.html[^] I am missing 3 things out of the 11.

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    Christian Graus
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    I'm not sure how to objectively answer those questions, so I'm not sure if I have what it takes, but I'm willing to give it a go and see how I like it, all the same.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      Well, read the following and decide for yourself: http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/11/born-to-be-a-billionaire-entrepreneurs-management-assessment.html[^] I am missing 3 things out of the 11.

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      martin_hughes
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      Are they: 1) Lie 2) Cheat 3) Steal ? In fact, I'd hazard a guess that the 8 things you can do are irrelevant if you can't do those three.

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        Are they: 1) Lie 2) Cheat 3) Steal ? In fact, I'd hazard a guess that the 8 things you can do are irrelevant if you can't do those three.

        Books written by CP members

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        martin_hughes wrote:

        1. Lie 2) Cheat 3) Steal

        LOL! Yours is a much more summarized and direct list.

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        • M martin_hughes

          Are they: 1) Lie 2) Cheat 3) Steal ? In fact, I'd hazard a guess that the 8 things you can do are irrelevant if you can't do those three.

          Books written by CP members

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          You also have to cozy up with select groups of people who religiously are into corrupt power.

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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            Are they: 1) Lie 2) Cheat 3) Steal ? In fact, I'd hazard a guess that the 8 things you can do are irrelevant if you can't do those three.

            Books written by CP members

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            Member 96
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            Seriously Martin? You think every billionaire got that way by lying cheating and stealing? I would hazard a guess that being willing to work harder than the average person who thinks you have to steal or cheat or lie to get rich is one, more than average intelligence and most importantly to be driven on your own to sacrifice anything it takes should round out the top three the rest is probably all luck.


            Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              You also have to cozy up with select groups of people who religiously are into corrupt power.

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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              Christian Graus
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              ROTFL !!! I remember once going to a church that told me all rock bands are members of the Illuminati. As I played guitar and wrote songs, I wondered how the Illuminati find out when I'm at the point where I need to join. This is no different. Your belief in a group so powerful they can control all of society to the degree that they can stop someone from becoming wealthy is a fantasy that comes from your inability to deal with a world where random things happen. It has no basis in reality.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              • C Christian Graus

                ROTFL !!! I remember once going to a church that told me all rock bands are members of the Illuminati. As I played guitar and wrote songs, I wondered how the Illuminati find out when I'm at the point where I need to join. This is no different. Your belief in a group so powerful they can control all of society to the degree that they can stop someone from becoming wealthy is a fantasy that comes from your inability to deal with a world where random things happen. It has no basis in reality.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                CaptainSeeSharp
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                Christian Graus wrote:

                a group so powerful they can control all of society to the degree that they can stop someone from becoming wealthy

                Its called government. Taxes, permits, licenses, selective enforcement, direct control of the money supply, and other corruption benefits a select few at the expense of others. Its like communism where the economy is centrally planned and most of the media is strictly controlled.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  Well, read the following and decide for yourself: http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/11/born-to-be-a-billionaire-entrepreneurs-management-assessment.html[^] I am missing 3 things out of the 11.

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                  Dr Walt Fair PE
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                  I know I could never be a billionaire for at least 2 reasons, so the rest don't matter: 1) After a few hundred million, who cares? 2) People in high places discriminate based on color: My nose is the wrong color.

                  CQ de W5ALT

                  Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                  • M martin_hughes

                    Are they: 1) Lie 2) Cheat 3) Steal ? In fact, I'd hazard a guess that the 8 things you can do are irrelevant if you can't do those three.

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    You're confusing this with the legal industry, probably from your experiences with the firm of Dewey, Cheatem and Howe.

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                    • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                      I know I could never be a billionaire for at least 2 reasons, so the rest don't matter: 1) After a few hundred million, who cares? 2) People in high places discriminate based on color: My nose is the wrong color.

                      CQ de W5ALT

                      Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                      AspDotNetDev
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                      Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

                      My nose is the wrong color

                      Brown? And Rudolph made it big, so I don't see why you can't! ;P

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                        Seriously Martin? You think every billionaire got that way by lying cheating and stealing? I would hazard a guess that being willing to work harder than the average person who thinks you have to steal or cheat or lie to get rich is one, more than average intelligence and most importantly to be driven on your own to sacrifice anything it takes should round out the top three the rest is probably all luck.


                        Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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                        martin_hughes
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                        If only everything was as black and white as glib comments posted late at night on an internet forum :) Having said that, though, I was reading about Warren Buffet the other day - someone I have quite a lot of respect for and who seems to be relatively "clean" - and even he has some skeletons in the closet.

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                        • M Member 96

                          Seriously Martin? You think every billionaire got that way by lying cheating and stealing? I would hazard a guess that being willing to work harder than the average person who thinks you have to steal or cheat or lie to get rich is one, more than average intelligence and most importantly to be driven on your own to sacrifice anything it takes should round out the top three the rest is probably all luck.


                          Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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                          peterchen
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                          John C wrote:

                          willing to work harder

                          OK, assume a cleaner gets 6€/hour - that's already an the upper end in most places. Do you think someone can be really 10 times as productive? 20 times? OK, let's assume 100 times. Now, assume someone is 100 times as productive, is willing to work six days a week for 12 hours, without vacations. He made his first billion after only 445 years - without accounting for living cost or inflation. I agree that "every billionaire is a liar, cheater, stealer" is debatable. But "work harder" is a pipe dream at best, an insult to everyone who does work hard. Hard work makes the least money.

                          Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                          • C Christopher Duncan

                            You're confusing this with the legal industry, probably from your experiences with the firm of Dewey, Cheatem and Howe.

                            Christopher Duncan
                            www.PracticalUSA.com
                            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                            Copywriting Services

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                            martin_hughes
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                            Don't get me started on legal types!

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                            • C CaptainSeeSharp

                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              a group so powerful they can control all of society to the degree that they can stop someone from becoming wealthy

                              Its called government. Taxes, permits, licenses, selective enforcement, direct control of the money supply, and other corruption benefits a select few at the expense of others. Its like communism where the economy is centrally planned and most of the media is strictly controlled.

                              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                              Gary R Wheeler
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                              Christian was pointing out that your paranoia was limiting your ability to deal with your environment effectively.

                              Software Zen: delete this;
                              Fold With Us![^]

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                a group so powerful they can control all of society to the degree that they can stop someone from becoming wealthy

                                Its called government. Taxes, permits, licenses, selective enforcement, direct control of the money supply, and other corruption benefits a select few at the expense of others. Its like communism where the economy is centrally planned and most of the media is strictly controlled.

                                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                No, it's your way of blaming others for being a failure instead of doing somthing about it.

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                                • A AspDotNetDev

                                  Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

                                  My nose is the wrong color

                                  Brown? And Rudolph made it big, so I don't see why you can't! ;P

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Oh deer. :sigh:

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

                                    My nose is the wrong color

                                    Brown? And Rudolph made it big, so I don't see why you can't! ;P

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                                    Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                    aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                    Brown?

                                    No, unfortunately it's not brown enough ...

                                    CQ de W5ALT

                                    Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                      John C wrote:

                                      willing to work harder

                                      OK, assume a cleaner gets 6€/hour - that's already an the upper end in most places. Do you think someone can be really 10 times as productive? 20 times? OK, let's assume 100 times. Now, assume someone is 100 times as productive, is willing to work six days a week for 12 hours, without vacations. He made his first billion after only 445 years - without accounting for living cost or inflation. I agree that "every billionaire is a liar, cheater, stealer" is debatable. But "work harder" is a pipe dream at best, an insult to everyone who does work hard. Hard work makes the least money.

                                      Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
                                      | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server.

                                      modified on Thursday, March 18, 2010 6:20 AM

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                                      Member 96
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                                      Smarter needs to be combined with harder or else you get no where. When we started our business we worked harder than anyone else I know for many years and people would say "oh I wish I had my own business and could make money like you guys do" and the only thing stopping them was a semi good idea and a lot of hard work.


                                      Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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                                      • G Gary R Wheeler

                                        Christian was pointing out that your paranoia was limiting your ability to deal with your environment effectively.

                                        Software Zen: delete this;
                                        Fold With Us![^]

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                                        CaptainSeeSharp
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                                        I'm not paranoid and no that is not what he was pointing out. The both of you are attempting to insult me by saying I am crazy because I point out that corruption in high places is the norm. I like to give these pictures to those who disagree. http://thefulmerazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/lamb2_wideweb__470x3660.jpg[^] http://images8.cafepress.com/product/391310648v2_480x480_Front.jpg[^]

                                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                          No, it's your way of blaming others for being a failure instead of doing somthing about it.

                                          Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                          CaptainSeeSharp
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                                          What utter bullshit. I wish I could smack you.

                                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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