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  • M martin_hughes

    Are they: 1) Lie 2) Cheat 3) Steal ? In fact, I'd hazard a guess that the 8 things you can do are irrelevant if you can't do those three.

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    Seriously Martin? You think every billionaire got that way by lying cheating and stealing? I would hazard a guess that being willing to work harder than the average person who thinks you have to steal or cheat or lie to get rich is one, more than average intelligence and most importantly to be driven on your own to sacrifice anything it takes should round out the top three the rest is probably all luck.


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    • C CaptainSeeSharp

      You also have to cozy up with select groups of people who religiously are into corrupt power.

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      Christian Graus
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      ROTFL !!! I remember once going to a church that told me all rock bands are members of the Illuminati. As I played guitar and wrote songs, I wondered how the Illuminati find out when I'm at the point where I need to join. This is no different. Your belief in a group so powerful they can control all of society to the degree that they can stop someone from becoming wealthy is a fantasy that comes from your inability to deal with a world where random things happen. It has no basis in reality.

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        ROTFL !!! I remember once going to a church that told me all rock bands are members of the Illuminati. As I played guitar and wrote songs, I wondered how the Illuminati find out when I'm at the point where I need to join. This is no different. Your belief in a group so powerful they can control all of society to the degree that they can stop someone from becoming wealthy is a fantasy that comes from your inability to deal with a world where random things happen. It has no basis in reality.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        CaptainSeeSharp
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        a group so powerful they can control all of society to the degree that they can stop someone from becoming wealthy

        Its called government. Taxes, permits, licenses, selective enforcement, direct control of the money supply, and other corruption benefits a select few at the expense of others. Its like communism where the economy is centrally planned and most of the media is strictly controlled.

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          Well, read the following and decide for yourself: http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/11/born-to-be-a-billionaire-entrepreneurs-management-assessment.html[^] I am missing 3 things out of the 11.

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          Dr Walt Fair PE
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          I know I could never be a billionaire for at least 2 reasons, so the rest don't matter: 1) After a few hundred million, who cares? 2) People in high places discriminate based on color: My nose is the wrong color.

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          Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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          • M martin_hughes

            Are they: 1) Lie 2) Cheat 3) Steal ? In fact, I'd hazard a guess that the 8 things you can do are irrelevant if you can't do those three.

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            Christopher Duncan
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            You're confusing this with the legal industry, probably from your experiences with the firm of Dewey, Cheatem and Howe.

            Christopher Duncan
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            • D Dr Walt Fair PE

              I know I could never be a billionaire for at least 2 reasons, so the rest don't matter: 1) After a few hundred million, who cares? 2) People in high places discriminate based on color: My nose is the wrong color.

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              Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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              AspDotNetDev
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              Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

              My nose is the wrong color

              Brown? And Rudolph made it big, so I don't see why you can't! ;P

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              • M Member 96

                Seriously Martin? You think every billionaire got that way by lying cheating and stealing? I would hazard a guess that being willing to work harder than the average person who thinks you have to steal or cheat or lie to get rich is one, more than average intelligence and most importantly to be driven on your own to sacrifice anything it takes should round out the top three the rest is probably all luck.


                Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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                martin_hughes
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                If only everything was as black and white as glib comments posted late at night on an internet forum :) Having said that, though, I was reading about Warren Buffet the other day - someone I have quite a lot of respect for and who seems to be relatively "clean" - and even he has some skeletons in the closet.

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                • M Member 96

                  Seriously Martin? You think every billionaire got that way by lying cheating and stealing? I would hazard a guess that being willing to work harder than the average person who thinks you have to steal or cheat or lie to get rich is one, more than average intelligence and most importantly to be driven on your own to sacrifice anything it takes should round out the top three the rest is probably all luck.


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                  peterchen
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                  John C wrote:

                  willing to work harder

                  OK, assume a cleaner gets 6€/hour - that's already an the upper end in most places. Do you think someone can be really 10 times as productive? 20 times? OK, let's assume 100 times. Now, assume someone is 100 times as productive, is willing to work six days a week for 12 hours, without vacations. He made his first billion after only 445 years - without accounting for living cost or inflation. I agree that "every billionaire is a liar, cheater, stealer" is debatable. But "work harder" is a pipe dream at best, an insult to everyone who does work hard. Hard work makes the least money.

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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    You're confusing this with the legal industry, probably from your experiences with the firm of Dewey, Cheatem and Howe.

                    Christopher Duncan
                    www.PracticalUSA.com
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                    martin_hughes
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                    Don't get me started on legal types!

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                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      a group so powerful they can control all of society to the degree that they can stop someone from becoming wealthy

                      Its called government. Taxes, permits, licenses, selective enforcement, direct control of the money supply, and other corruption benefits a select few at the expense of others. Its like communism where the economy is centrally planned and most of the media is strictly controlled.

                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      Christian was pointing out that your paranoia was limiting your ability to deal with your environment effectively.

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        a group so powerful they can control all of society to the degree that they can stop someone from becoming wealthy

                        Its called government. Taxes, permits, licenses, selective enforcement, direct control of the money supply, and other corruption benefits a select few at the expense of others. Its like communism where the economy is centrally planned and most of the media is strictly controlled.

                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                        Lost User
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                        No, it's your way of blaming others for being a failure instead of doing somthing about it.

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                        • A AspDotNetDev

                          Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

                          My nose is the wrong color

                          Brown? And Rudolph made it big, so I don't see why you can't! ;P

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                          Oh deer. :sigh:

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                          • A AspDotNetDev

                            Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:

                            My nose is the wrong color

                            Brown? And Rudolph made it big, so I don't see why you can't! ;P

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                            Dr Walt Fair PE
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                            aspdotnetdev wrote:

                            Brown?

                            No, unfortunately it's not brown enough ...

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                              John C wrote:

                              willing to work harder

                              OK, assume a cleaner gets 6€/hour - that's already an the upper end in most places. Do you think someone can be really 10 times as productive? 20 times? OK, let's assume 100 times. Now, assume someone is 100 times as productive, is willing to work six days a week for 12 hours, without vacations. He made his first billion after only 445 years - without accounting for living cost or inflation. I agree that "every billionaire is a liar, cheater, stealer" is debatable. But "work harder" is a pipe dream at best, an insult to everyone who does work hard. Hard work makes the least money.

                              Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                              Smarter needs to be combined with harder or else you get no where. When we started our business we worked harder than anyone else I know for many years and people would say "oh I wish I had my own business and could make money like you guys do" and the only thing stopping them was a semi good idea and a lot of hard work.


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                              • G Gary R Wheeler

                                Christian was pointing out that your paranoia was limiting your ability to deal with your environment effectively.

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                                CaptainSeeSharp
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                                I'm not paranoid and no that is not what he was pointing out. The both of you are attempting to insult me by saying I am crazy because I point out that corruption in high places is the norm. I like to give these pictures to those who disagree. http://thefulmerazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/lamb2_wideweb__470x3660.jpg[^] http://images8.cafepress.com/product/391310648v2_480x480_Front.jpg[^]

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                                • L Lost User

                                  No, it's your way of blaming others for being a failure instead of doing somthing about it.

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                                  CaptainSeeSharp
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                                  What utter bullshit. I wish I could smack you.

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    Well, read the following and decide for yourself: http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/11/born-to-be-a-billionaire-entrepreneurs-management-assessment.html[^] I am missing 3 things out of the 11.

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                                    Joe Woodbury
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                                    1. Do you care more about power than money? 2) Can you be ruthless and sleep well at night? Since I answer no to both, I'll never be a billionaire (as will nobody I personally know.)
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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      Well, read the following and decide for yourself: http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/11/born-to-be-a-billionaire-entrepreneurs-management-assessment.html[^] I am missing 3 things out of the 11.

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                                      Everybody can BE a billionaire - it is quite easy really. Not everybody has what it takes to BECOME a billionaire. Sloppy grammar! My own observation is that wealth concentrates around those that manipulate wealth, not produce it. People that farm, build, or mine will never earn as much as currency traders, stock brokers, lawyers (legal brokers), or their own bosses. However, to become a billionaire, you have to own a large business. To get there, the skills mentioned in the article are necessary but not sufficient. By analogy: buying a lottery ticket is necessary to winning the lottery. It does not mean that you will win the lottery. Kudos to Rama for having 8 of the 11 skills. Now just do your best and don't worry about where it will lead.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        No, it's your way of blaming others for being a failure instead of doing somthing about it.

                                        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                        cplas
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                                        >No, it's your way of blaming others for >being a failure instead of doing somthing about it. What's your evidence that he is a "failure"? Do you have any evidence? I would hope a programmer has a better grasp of logic and reasoning skills. My neighbour is worth tens of millions of dollars and he got that wealth from scratch, by being smart and hard working, and he definitely believes the system is not to help you. He's also into "conspiracy" stuff.

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                                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                          What utter bullshit. I wish I could smack you.

                                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                          Count the 1 votes.

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