There Is No Right to Health Care
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*grin* I have an accountant, so even then, I just pay what I'm told to.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
Absolute rubbish, the cost of the NHS has more than doubled in the last twelve years.
That's not a relative measure, which is what was offered.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
And the standard of care has fallen
Perhaps. I don't think the standard of care in Australia is changing. The issue I see the UK having, is too many people on welfare, not enough people putting money into the system. We're not far behind, I admit, but I am not sure we're as bad. But, that's still not a measure relative to the US, which is what was being offered. The person who said it may be wrong, but I don't think you've refuted him.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
That's not a relative measure, which is what was offered.
But on what basis? There are no figures to back this claim, and I doubt that it could be measured. I don't know about the US system, but here in the UK there are many additional and hidden costs so the true measure would be difficult to calculate. Also I don't see how you can measure outcomes. We have a number of hospitals where patients have died from C-difficile, norovirus etc, which had nothing to do with their reason for entering hospital. However, since most health authorities have tried to hide these figures we cannot be sure of the exact numbers. Thus the statement that we get better outcomes at half the cost is impossible to quantify in either country.
txtspeak is the realm of 9 year old children, not developers. Christian Graus
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josda1000 wrote:
No. Pantheism is where nature is all around us; God is all around us. Polytheism is "many gods".
I think you are right. *hangs head in shame*
josda1000 wrote:
But the point is that if governments imprison you for speaking in an unpopular manner, as I do a lot on this site apparently, then that's wrong, it's totalitarian, however you still have not lost your natural right to talk. It doesn't cost you anything to speak, it's part of your humanity.
Yes, that is true. And obviously, I am all for free speech. We saw a show on TV the other day on the IKA, which is the new KKK, and my wife said 'why are they not in prison' and I said, free speech means nothing until it's tested by the freedom to say unpopular things, and in the open is the best place to have those sort of views. In the dark, they fester. In the open, they can be mocked and shown for what they are.
josda1000 wrote:
However, are you saying you know more about God than I do?
Well, I've been a Christian for 20 years, and I went to church for a few years before that. Becoming a Christian means having an experience of God. So, I suspect based on your video comments that I have the good fortune to know more about God than you, although I'm not suggesting I deserve any credit for it.
josda1000 wrote:
If I have an opinion on this, and you have a completely different opinion, who is right? Nobody. Nobody is right. It's an idea that has not, and possibly can never, be proven right one way or the other.
The Bible makes specific promises about how God answers, about what physically happens at the point of conversion. Having experienced it for myself, means I at least have the right to think I am right ( even though I don't expect you to believe it just because I say it ). Anyone who believes in God, HAS to believe that their view is right, or why would they hold it ? And, as you say, thinking I am right, means I regard other points of view to be in error.
josda1000 wrote:
Are you afraid that if you believe there is no God here, and you then find out there is, that He won't accept you into His house? I doubt it, as long as you live a principled and good life, and are kind to everyone and do the best you can.
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Christian Graus wrote:
That's not a relative measure, which is what was offered.
But on what basis? There are no figures to back this claim, and I doubt that it could be measured. I don't know about the US system, but here in the UK there are many additional and hidden costs so the true measure would be difficult to calculate. Also I don't see how you can measure outcomes. We have a number of hospitals where patients have died from C-difficile, norovirus etc, which had nothing to do with their reason for entering hospital. However, since most health authorities have tried to hide these figures we cannot be sure of the exact numbers. Thus the statement that we get better outcomes at half the cost is impossible to quantify in either country.
txtspeak is the realm of 9 year old children, not developers. Christian Graus
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I hope you don't mind Christian but you'll have to wait for me to respond to the two posts, I have been more than busy for the last two weeks... I'll respond later tonight (about 10 hrs from now)
josda1000 wrote:
I hope you don't mind Christian but you'll have to wait for me to respond to the two posts, I have been more than busy for the last two weeks... I'll respond later tonight (about 10 hrs from now)
No problem. You may want to hit the 'email' button and move this to email, for two reasons: 1 - I don't get email notifications, so as this thread gets older, I may forget to look at it 2 - It looks like it's just the two of us now, anyhow. Which means you need an address to email to. Obviously, there are reasons I don't want to make that public, how about I hit the email button to mail you, do you check that account ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.