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    Christopher Duncan
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    I've been getting pestered by their upgrade popop and finally decided it had been out long enough to go with the new version. In their "Choose your level of protection" box, the free version no longer includes protection against web based threats - for that you now need to pay for the pro version. $20 is certainly not unreasonable, but why on earth would I want to upgrade my free version from 4 to 5 and lose functionality? Are these guys on drugs, or do they just assume the all people are stupid?

    Christopher Duncan
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    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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      I've been getting pestered by their upgrade popop and finally decided it had been out long enough to go with the new version. In their "Choose your level of protection" box, the free version no longer includes protection against web based threats - for that you now need to pay for the pro version. $20 is certainly not unreasonable, but why on earth would I want to upgrade my free version from 4 to 5 and lose functionality? Are these guys on drugs, or do they just assume the all people are stupid?

      Christopher Duncan
      www.PracticalUSA.com
      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
      Copywriting Services

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      Media2r
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      Christopher Duncan wrote:

      or do they just assume the all people are stupid?

      In my experience, that assumption would be far more accurate than the opposite one. //L

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        I've been getting pestered by their upgrade popop and finally decided it had been out long enough to go with the new version. In their "Choose your level of protection" box, the free version no longer includes protection against web based threats - for that you now need to pay for the pro version. $20 is certainly not unreasonable, but why on earth would I want to upgrade my free version from 4 to 5 and lose functionality? Are these guys on drugs, or do they just assume the all people are stupid?

        Christopher Duncan
        www.PracticalUSA.com
        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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        NormDroid
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        Try Microsoft Security Essentials, it's free and it works.

        Two heads are better than one.

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          I've been getting pestered by their upgrade popop and finally decided it had been out long enough to go with the new version. In their "Choose your level of protection" box, the free version no longer includes protection against web based threats - for that you now need to pay for the pro version. $20 is certainly not unreasonable, but why on earth would I want to upgrade my free version from 4 to 5 and lose functionality? Are these guys on drugs, or do they just assume the all people are stupid?

          Christopher Duncan
          www.PracticalUSA.com
          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
          Copywriting Services

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          Chris Maunder
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          I've given up on avast and their noisy 2am announcements of "VIRUS DATABASE UPDATED!!" when I forget to turn the speakers down. Win7 and Microsoft Security Essentials. It does the job, simply and quietly, and is free.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            I've been getting pestered by their upgrade popop and finally decided it had been out long enough to go with the new version. In their "Choose your level of protection" box, the free version no longer includes protection against web based threats - for that you now need to pay for the pro version. $20 is certainly not unreasonable, but why on earth would I want to upgrade my free version from 4 to 5 and lose functionality? Are these guys on drugs, or do they just assume the all people are stupid?

            Christopher Duncan
            www.PracticalUSA.com
            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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            Lost User
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            That sounds a lot like Liquid XML Studio, which removed their core functionality in the free version with an innocent looking update.. Luckily I could downgrade. Or Live Messenger which removed support for XP x64 with an update, and MS in their infinite wisdom decided that if an OS it not supported, it will fail to install at all. (instead of "your OS is not supported. do you want to take that risk? yes/no") Of course, the installer can be made to Do It Anyway with a simple hack. (you can find that on the pirate bay, and since Live Messenger is free, I don't have any moral objections to downloading that) Looks like removing features with an update is a common theme.

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              Try Microsoft Security Essentials, it's free and it works.

              Two heads are better than one.

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              Or not.. depending on your OS

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                Or not.. depending on your OS

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                Christopher Duncan
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                Which OS does it not work on? I'm running XP, Vista and 7.

                Christopher Duncan
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                  I've given up on avast and their noisy 2am announcements of "VIRUS DATABASE UPDATED!!" when I forget to turn the speakers down. Win7 and Microsoft Security Essentials. It does the job, simply and quietly, and is free.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  Christopher Duncan
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                  Advice I'm ready to heed. I've heard that uninstalling Avast (to be fair, any A/V product) is just north of a nightmare. What hoops did you have to jump through to get Avast off your system?

                  Christopher Duncan
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                    Try Microsoft Security Essentials, it's free and it works.

                    Two heads are better than one.

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Thanks, I'll check it out. It seems to be Hamster Approved (see below). :)

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                      I've been getting pestered by their upgrade popop and finally decided it had been out long enough to go with the new version. In their "Choose your level of protection" box, the free version no longer includes protection against web based threats - for that you now need to pay for the pro version. $20 is certainly not unreasonable, but why on earth would I want to upgrade my free version from 4 to 5 and lose functionality? Are these guys on drugs, or do they just assume the all people are stupid?

                      Christopher Duncan
                      www.PracticalUSA.com
                      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                      Wayne Gaylard
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                      I think you will find that they will no longer support version 4 pretty soon, and so people will either have to upgrade or find another AV. I agree, though, that removing features is not a good idea on any software upgrade, Sure way to lose customers.

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                        Which OS does it not work on? I'm running XP, Vista and 7.

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                        Ian Shlasko
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                        If memory serves, it only works on Vista and up... Not XP. And of course it requires a "Genuine" version... So the pirates are out of luck.

                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                        Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                          If memory serves, it only works on Vista and up... Not XP. And of course it requires a "Genuine" version... So the pirates are out of luck.

                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                          Enver Maroshi
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                          It works on xp. At least for me (sp3). No problems at all. Johnny Depp said it's working for him also, so, pirates are still in game :)

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                            If memory serves, it only works on Vista and up... Not XP. And of course it requires a "Genuine" version... So the pirates are out of luck.

                            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                            Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                            Christopher Duncan
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                            :doh:

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                              It works on xp. At least for me (sp3). No problems at all. Johnny Depp said it's working for him also, so, pirates are still in game :)

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                              Thanks!

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                                I've given up on avast and their noisy 2am announcements of "VIRUS DATABASE UPDATED!!" when I forget to turn the speakers down. Win7 and Microsoft Security Essentials. It does the job, simply and quietly, and is free.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                Chris Maunder wrote:

                                I've given up on avast and their noisy 2am announcements of "VIRUS DATABASE UPDATED!!" when I forget to turn the speakers down.

                                There's an option to disable audio notices. I don't recall if I found it myself or had to google for where they hid it.

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                                  Which OS does it not work on? I'm running XP, Vista and 7.

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                                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                  I'm guessing he's talking about exotic stuff like Linux, OS X, etc. There are OSes other than those from MS' stable, you know. ;)

                                  Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                                    I've been getting pestered by their upgrade popop and finally decided it had been out long enough to go with the new version. In their "Choose your level of protection" box, the free version no longer includes protection against web based threats - for that you now need to pay for the pro version. $20 is certainly not unreasonable, but why on earth would I want to upgrade my free version from 4 to 5 and lose functionality? Are these guys on drugs, or do they just assume the all people are stupid?

                                    Christopher Duncan
                                    www.PracticalUSA.com
                                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                    Copywriting Services

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                    Are these guys on drugs, or do they just assume the all people are stupid?

                                    I assume the former. What percentage of lusers actually read the details. I'll admit to not noticing the change when I put v5 on a test machine a few days ago. This sucks since it makes MSE the only acceptable free AV program. AVG is a bloated mess, and Avira's popup spam is noxious. X|

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                                      I've given up on avast and their noisy 2am announcements of "VIRUS DATABASE UPDATED!!" when I forget to turn the speakers down. Win7 and Microsoft Security Essentials. It does the job, simply and quietly, and is free.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                      I disabled the audio alert. Looks like Avast have gone from being the good guys to most CPians' anathema. Kinda like AVG who went out of favour and Avast became popular.

                                      Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                                        It works on xp. At least for me (sp3). No problems at all. Johnny Depp said it's working for him also, so, pirates are still in game :)

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                                        Ian Shlasko
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                                        Wow, so I'm wrong on both counts? Man, I gotta start checking my sources...

                                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                        Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                          I'm guessing he's talking about exotic stuff like Linux, OS X, etc. There are OSes other than those from MS' stable, you know. ;)

                                          Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                                          Ian Shlasko
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                                          *hides his Xandros-equipped EeePc* Lies :)

                                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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