CRU email investigation?
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Christian Graus wrote:
Especially one that bashes Christians
What happened to turning the other cheek? ;) I was only pointing out the obvious similarity between christianity and environmentalism.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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In a word, I don't think so. Well, that's three words, but who's counting. Why would maintaining residence in Eden have precluded technological development?
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
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I'm sorry...what similarities were you pointing out? You said something like he's a Christian and therefore feels he should be punished for eating the fruit... And FYI, Christianity for a long time...and in some circles still...is used as a basic for stripping the environment of all natural resources. Until about 10 years go, the long-standing opinion in Christian circles was that the earth belonged to humans to do with as we pleased. So saying that someone is a Christian (even when he says he's not religious) does not make him an environmentalist. Of course, what he says does. And were you implying that being either was a bad thing?
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In a word, I don't think so. Well, that's three words, but who's counting. Why would maintaining residence in Eden have precluded technological development?
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
Man ate the apple, got the knowledge, got slung put of paradise. To have stayed in the garden would have meant remaining ignorant. Unless you have an entirely different understanding of the book of genesis.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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fat_boy wrote:
So eating the apple of th tree of knowledge and beingv thrown out of the garden of eden isnt a parable for man developing technology and distancing himself from nature?
No, of course not. Nor is it the case that Christians think we need to be punished for it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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DOes anyone know if the parlimentary inquiry came to any conclusion on this? I have been otherwise occupied for a month so havent kept up with the news. And yes, Lovelock IS anti human. He is clearly a fool. And he is also a Christian, probably one of the reasons he feels that mankind is NOT part of nature, and thus must be punished for eating the apple.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Man ate the apple, got the knowledge, got slung put of paradise. To have stayed in the garden would have meant remaining ignorant. Unless you have an entirely different understanding of the book of genesis.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
To have stayed in the garden would have meant remaining ignorant.
Ignorant of what? Eating of the tree had very specific ramifications. It was not the "cure" for ignorance about the environment and the use of technology to interact with it...at least IMHO. Sure there were things that became necessities because of the fall and technology was developed to meet those needs, but I don't think all technology is born of survival.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
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fat_boy wrote:
To have stayed in the garden would have meant remaining ignorant.
Ignorant of what? Eating of the tree had very specific ramifications. It was not the "cure" for ignorance about the environment and the use of technology to interact with it...at least IMHO. Sure there were things that became necessities because of the fall and technology was developed to meet those needs, but I don't think all technology is born of survival.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit It's against my relationship to have a religion. Me blog, You read
Gary Kirkham wrote:
but I don't think all technology is born of survival.
Well Youtube is certainly one of those that isn't needed.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_