Potential of browser based IDEs
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I was looking at Ares - a web based IDE for Palm Pre development. I must say that I am impressed. The IDE is pretty responsive and lot of features you expect in a desktop IDE are present in Ares. Of course, I have not done any real work to see how the IDE will hold up. But it seems to be a nice start. So do you expect to see a Browser based (most likely SilverLight) version of VS2010? (may be something which is lower than the Express edition in the hierarchy). The big advantage is that you do not have to mess up your development machine each time there is a new version of IDE or wait for hours for installation of IDE to complete.
I have yet to see a browser based UI that comes close to the finish and polish of top end rich client UI's. It's the small details that's hard to put a finger on, response times, visual cues etc. Sure Word is bloated and Notepad is easy. But there's a reason for all the shingles: easy, after a while of regular productive use, is not enough.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
(most likely SilverLight)
That's kind of cheating, isn't it?
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
The big advantage is that you do not have to mess up your development machine each time there is a new version of IDE or wait for hours for installation of IDE to complete.
Actually, that's a HUGE disadvantage, IMHO. I don't want the damn IDE changing on me in the middle of an intense project development cycle. Maybe it's just me, but I like stability and the delusion of control. I turn off automatic updates, because I'll decide when and if I want to update the apps I use. And as to a browser-based IDE, I'm sorry, but I still frequently enough work in a disconnected state that I don't want anything important to be living on the web, be it data or tools. And even in a theoretical "always connected" scenario, I don't want to deal with the downtime of the inevitable hardware failure, routers, cable/DSL modems, drunk drivers smashing into telephone polls, lightning strikes and other acts of God, etc. In other words, I'd be happy living in a cabin on a remote mountain with a once-a-day 10 minute data burst as a satellite passes overhead. The rest of the time, I could easily live without an Internet connection. Marc
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I was looking at Ares - a web based IDE for Palm Pre development. I must say that I am impressed. The IDE is pretty responsive and lot of features you expect in a desktop IDE are present in Ares. Of course, I have not done any real work to see how the IDE will hold up. But it seems to be a nice start. So do you expect to see a Browser based (most likely SilverLight) version of VS2010? (may be something which is lower than the Express edition in the hierarchy). The big advantage is that you do not have to mess up your development machine each time there is a new version of IDE or wait for hours for installation of IDE to complete.
The only IDE I need vim.
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I was looking at Ares - a web based IDE for Palm Pre development. I must say that I am impressed. The IDE is pretty responsive and lot of features you expect in a desktop IDE are present in Ares. Of course, I have not done any real work to see how the IDE will hold up. But it seems to be a nice start. So do you expect to see a Browser based (most likely SilverLight) version of VS2010? (may be something which is lower than the Express edition in the hierarchy). The big advantage is that you do not have to mess up your development machine each time there is a new version of IDE or wait for hours for installation of IDE to complete.
Looks great. Not fast on firefoxf but I'll see how it will run on chrome.
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I was looking at Ares - a web based IDE for Palm Pre development. I must say that I am impressed. The IDE is pretty responsive and lot of features you expect in a desktop IDE are present in Ares. Of course, I have not done any real work to see how the IDE will hold up. But it seems to be a nice start. So do you expect to see a Browser based (most likely SilverLight) version of VS2010? (may be something which is lower than the Express edition in the hierarchy). The big advantage is that you do not have to mess up your development machine each time there is a new version of IDE or wait for hours for installation of IDE to complete.
Lively Kernel[^]. The Lively Kernel project provides a complete JavaScript development environment and platform. . Originally written at Sun Labs, now an Open Source Project. The entire IDE and app's run in the browser, and the overall experience is reminiscent of Smalltalk or, more specifically, SELF development. Their GUI work is staggering for running within a browser. Somewhat predictably, IE is not supported - Chrome is the best option for running in Windows. Maybe IE9 will be better equipped.