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What Really Grinds My Gears..

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  • A Argyle4Ever

    So What Really Grinds my Gears Today? Agencies... I am browsing through the job sites and found a job that was advertised about 2 days ago. Place application for said job, Get call from said agency and then the standard conversation starts. "Well we feel that role is not suitable for you however we would like to keep you on our books" blah blah blah.. What Grinds my gears is, the role exactly matchs my skill set and they were obiviously looking for CV's to add to their database. The role did not exist and I wasted my time. I have a hatred of dealing with "Agency Trolls" that put fake job ad's up and harvest CV's as they come in, imo I would much rather do the job searching myself and pick the roles I am interested in, not the Roles they want to put me in because they want the highest bonus, its just a waste of my time. The other side is my hatred for "pushy" Agencies, ones that argue with you over the phone as to why the job is perfect for you.. when you are the only one that knows if its perfect for you, the ones that dont listen to you, think they are only right and have a tendency of having the phone put down on them... Yes you guessed it, Im in the UK job marketing looking for a job.. :-(

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    Russell Jones
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    There are a couple of consultancy companies (Often associated with government database / traffic monitoring schemes) who deliberately advertise at prices way below the market rate. By doing this they are able to turn round and get their foreign outsourcing rubberstamped because they can't find those skills in the UK. It's a great ploy, we pay through taxes for a system for which we will also pay through fines / loss of privacy and in the process of building it we pay because our market values actually become devalued through these shenanigans.

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    • N NormDroid

      Once you've left the last company you've worked for and started the new one, Christ they're in there like bleeding gannets. Agencies - can't live with them, can't do without them...

      Two heads are better than one.

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      Ain't that the truth

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        Argyle4Ever wrote:

        The other side is my hatred for "pushy" Agencies, ones that argue with you over the phone as to why the job is perfect for you.. when you are the only one that knows if its perfect for you, the ones that dont listen to you, think they are only right and have a tendency of having the phone put down on them...

        Body shoppers, I really hate those guys, but there's a trick in getting rid of them: Play along on the first call, ask for more details and finally agree upon an interview a week later, two days later send a mail to the agency that you have thought it through and you don't feel this is a correct move and that you don't want to waste your time nor that of the interviewer. The agency will say they understand and that they will contact you if something else comes up, but they never do. works everytime.

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        V. wrote:

        The agency will say they understand

        Not from my dealings, they'll quite literally beg you to take the interview, and in some cases (not from my own experiences) threaten you.

        Two heads are better than one.

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        • A Argyle4Ever

          So What Really Grinds my Gears Today? Agencies... I am browsing through the job sites and found a job that was advertised about 2 days ago. Place application for said job, Get call from said agency and then the standard conversation starts. "Well we feel that role is not suitable for you however we would like to keep you on our books" blah blah blah.. What Grinds my gears is, the role exactly matchs my skill set and they were obiviously looking for CV's to add to their database. The role did not exist and I wasted my time. I have a hatred of dealing with "Agency Trolls" that put fake job ad's up and harvest CV's as they come in, imo I would much rather do the job searching myself and pick the roles I am interested in, not the Roles they want to put me in because they want the highest bonus, its just a waste of my time. The other side is my hatred for "pushy" Agencies, ones that argue with you over the phone as to why the job is perfect for you.. when you are the only one that knows if its perfect for you, the ones that dont listen to you, think they are only right and have a tendency of having the phone put down on them... Yes you guessed it, Im in the UK job marketing looking for a job.. :-(

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          Lost User
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          Don't get me started mate. I've dipped my toe in the water too and have dealt with a lot of recruiters this past few weeks and they are all your best friend at the beginning... BTW, Monster and CW Jobs are the best sites I've found but if you can recommend any others then please let me know.

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            Don't get me started mate. I've dipped my toe in the water too and have dealt with a lot of recruiters this past few weeks and they are all your best friend at the beginning... BTW, Monster and CW Jobs are the best sites I've found but if you can recommend any others then please let me know.

            Blogging about Qt Creator

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            NormDroid
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            The best, is when you haggle for a rate and find out they've getting double what you're taking home, crooks.

            Two heads are better than one.

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              The thing that bothers me about agencies is that the blind email, and close said email with something like "If you're not available or inetreested in this position, but know someone that might be, please provide his/her contact info." I always respond with a question regarding my cut of their commission for finding someone, and I get no reply back. Maybe it's got something to do with the salutation I use in the reply - "Dear Lazy F*cker..." The next most annoying thing is having an agency call me on the phone from an out-sourced location *cough*india*cough*...

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              Or you apply on-line and get an email that says 'if you haven't heard f*** all in the next 7 days then tough titty sucker!'. Or words to that effect - they can't even be bothered to make contact.

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              • A Argyle4Ever

                So What Really Grinds my Gears Today? Agencies... I am browsing through the job sites and found a job that was advertised about 2 days ago. Place application for said job, Get call from said agency and then the standard conversation starts. "Well we feel that role is not suitable for you however we would like to keep you on our books" blah blah blah.. What Grinds my gears is, the role exactly matchs my skill set and they were obiviously looking for CV's to add to their database. The role did not exist and I wasted my time. I have a hatred of dealing with "Agency Trolls" that put fake job ad's up and harvest CV's as they come in, imo I would much rather do the job searching myself and pick the roles I am interested in, not the Roles they want to put me in because they want the highest bonus, its just a waste of my time. The other side is my hatred for "pushy" Agencies, ones that argue with you over the phone as to why the job is perfect for you.. when you are the only one that knows if its perfect for you, the ones that dont listen to you, think they are only right and have a tendency of having the phone put down on them... Yes you guessed it, Im in the UK job marketing looking for a job.. :-(

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                NormDroid
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                One think I do hate about agencies is hopw Pally they come across, as if they've been your very best friend since childhood X|

                Two heads are better than one.

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                • A Argyle4Ever

                  So What Really Grinds my Gears Today? Agencies... I am browsing through the job sites and found a job that was advertised about 2 days ago. Place application for said job, Get call from said agency and then the standard conversation starts. "Well we feel that role is not suitable for you however we would like to keep you on our books" blah blah blah.. What Grinds my gears is, the role exactly matchs my skill set and they were obiviously looking for CV's to add to their database. The role did not exist and I wasted my time. I have a hatred of dealing with "Agency Trolls" that put fake job ad's up and harvest CV's as they come in, imo I would much rather do the job searching myself and pick the roles I am interested in, not the Roles they want to put me in because they want the highest bonus, its just a waste of my time. The other side is my hatred for "pushy" Agencies, ones that argue with you over the phone as to why the job is perfect for you.. when you are the only one that knows if its perfect for you, the ones that dont listen to you, think they are only right and have a tendency of having the phone put down on them... Yes you guessed it, Im in the UK job marketing looking for a job.. :-(

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                  ragnaroknrol
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                  My wife has training/experience with a very specific type of hardware. The number of people that can say that they have worked with this hardware in a production environment with the number of units she does is probably a 3 digit number in the US. She got an interview in a town with a similar size/cost of living/and wage index as where we are now. The recruiter was e-mailing/calling every few days. She interviews and they offer her 40K/yr. "The average wages of the area make that a good figure." She responded with "I would not have taken the job for less than that, as a raise. Offering someone less than 2/3rds of their current wage for a position that requires moving is insulting. Good luck filling the position." She interviewed last year. The recruiter called her last week and asked if she had reconsidered. They've been limping along with no one in the job for over a year. They still won't increase the wage. My wife's also at the point where if the recruiter calls, she gets inventive. He must hate her. She only used yes and no one day, acted like she had tourettes another, and spoke in gibberish with me translating a third. Next time he calls, she's going to be in labor. ;)

                  If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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