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  • S Sean Cull

    I just spent the last half hour reading some blogs about Java. Up with Java, down with MS. MS will burn, etc. Maybe it's just me, but the last while I've read quite a few blog sites, and most of them seem to be about nothing. Kind of like a Seinfeld episode, only not as funny. I was just curious how many of you out there have a blog on your personal site. I mean something other than just posting updates as to new software releases, patches, changelogs, etc. Do you think they're a good idea? Bad? I ask because I was thinking of starting one. I guess I could always use it to rant about work, but a few months back I read a weblog where its owner complained about his boss, and a co-worker snitched to his boss about it. 24 hours later the blogger in question was sans job. I guess the moral there would be never to blog about work, or if so be deliberately vague about it. -Sean

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    Sean Cull wrote: Do you think they're a good idea? Bad? I ask because I was thinking of starting one. Do you have something interesting to write about? If yes then blog, if not, don't blog. Simple as that. I get tons of crap email every day, does that make email bad? No.

    Paul Watson
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    Cape Town, South Africa

    Ray Cassick wrote: Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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    • S Sean Cull

      I just spent the last half hour reading some blogs about Java. Up with Java, down with MS. MS will burn, etc. Maybe it's just me, but the last while I've read quite a few blog sites, and most of them seem to be about nothing. Kind of like a Seinfeld episode, only not as funny. I was just curious how many of you out there have a blog on your personal site. I mean something other than just posting updates as to new software releases, patches, changelogs, etc. Do you think they're a good idea? Bad? I ask because I was thinking of starting one. I guess I could always use it to rant about work, but a few months back I read a weblog where its owner complained about his boss, and a co-worker snitched to his boss about it. 24 hours later the blogger in question was sans job. I guess the moral there would be never to blog about work, or if so be deliberately vague about it. -Sean

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      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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      Hi Sean, Sean Cull wrote: Up with Java, down with MS There is'nt much to debate over these things though from a developer perspective. Perhaps there are quite a few things that we can learn from Java as well from Microsoft.NET. Perhaps .NET now also accomodates Java in JSharp form. We would really wait-n-see about C# and J#!!! Something more interesting!!! :) deepak

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      • S Sean Cull

        I just spent the last half hour reading some blogs about Java. Up with Java, down with MS. MS will burn, etc. Maybe it's just me, but the last while I've read quite a few blog sites, and most of them seem to be about nothing. Kind of like a Seinfeld episode, only not as funny. I was just curious how many of you out there have a blog on your personal site. I mean something other than just posting updates as to new software releases, patches, changelogs, etc. Do you think they're a good idea? Bad? I ask because I was thinking of starting one. I guess I could always use it to rant about work, but a few months back I read a weblog where its owner complained about his boss, and a co-worker snitched to his boss about it. 24 hours later the blogger in question was sans job. I guess the moral there would be never to blog about work, or if so be deliberately vague about it. -Sean

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        Roger Wright
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        There are few things I can think of that are more useless than a blog - teats on a boar come to mind... If your friends and family don't want to hear your rambling thoughts, what makes you think the entire world wants to read them? If they do, talk to them. You may actually learn something useful about life and your place in it, and you'll save a lot of bandwidth and storage capacity for the rest of us. "Another day done; all targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly." - Jennie Agard, McGuckin Hardware Systems Manager

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        • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

          Hi Sean, Sean Cull wrote: Up with Java, down with MS There is'nt much to debate over these things though from a developer perspective. Perhaps there are quite a few things that we can learn from Java as well from Microsoft.NET. Perhaps .NET now also accomodates Java in JSharp form. We would really wait-n-see about C# and J#!!! Something more interesting!!! :) deepak

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          Hi Deepak, vdeepakkumar wrote: We would really wait-n-see about C# and J#!!! Something more interesting!!! I'm wondering why they even bothered. I mean MS wanted to incorporate the better points of Java with their own stuff, ok, enter C#. But then why still have J#? From what I've heard, converting code from Java to J# hasn't gone that well anyway. Which would probably mean that developers would just end up rewriting it in C#. I'm theorizing, because I haven't actually seenb J# yet. I guess I just figured C# + J# = Too#. -Sean

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            Hi Deepak, vdeepakkumar wrote: We would really wait-n-see about C# and J#!!! Something more interesting!!! I'm wondering why they even bothered. I mean MS wanted to incorporate the better points of Java with their own stuff, ok, enter C#. But then why still have J#? From what I've heard, converting code from Java to J# hasn't gone that well anyway. Which would probably mean that developers would just end up rewriting it in C#. I'm theorizing, because I haven't actually seenb J# yet. I guess I just figured C# + J# = Too#. -Sean

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            Stephane Rodriguez
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            If you look up the MS shared source cli, where you'll find the actual code for the .NET virtual machine, you are really left with the feeling there is no difference at all between Java, J# and C#. Or, in other words, these languages are semantically as much as if you were talking about 3 dialog boxes doing the exact same thing, one with the OK button on the top-right corner, the other with the OK button in the bottom-left, and the other in the bottom-right. Not much more to talk about.


            How low can you go ?
            (MS rant)

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            • R Roger Wright

              There are few things I can think of that are more useless than a blog - teats on a boar come to mind... If your friends and family don't want to hear your rambling thoughts, what makes you think the entire world wants to read them? If they do, talk to them. You may actually learn something useful about life and your place in it, and you'll save a lot of bandwidth and storage capacity for the rest of us. "Another day done; all targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly." - Jennie Agard, McGuckin Hardware Systems Manager

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              Roger Wright wrote: If your friends and family don't want to hear your rambling thoughts, what makes you think the entire world wants to read them? If they do, talk to them You are blaming the medium for the sins of the authors. I have read some pretty awful books, but I don't think books are bad or a waste of time. As for blogs specifically there are many very interesting ones out there. Zeldman.com is one for web developers, Don Box keeps one, so does Chris Sells. Chris Maunder is keeping one in his CP profile :-D Yes there is a lot of crap, just like with anything. Lots of rubbish C++ apps, but C++ is not rubbish and there are enough good C++ apps. And frankly, the Soapbox is like one communual blog to me. People waffle on about the daftest things (like me, the gooseberry jam and the bread), pretty sure you have posted there too... ;)

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
              Cape Town, South Africa

              Ray Cassick wrote: Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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                Roger Wright wrote: If your friends and family don't want to hear your rambling thoughts, what makes you think the entire world wants to read them? If they do, talk to them You are blaming the medium for the sins of the authors. I have read some pretty awful books, but I don't think books are bad or a waste of time. As for blogs specifically there are many very interesting ones out there. Zeldman.com is one for web developers, Don Box keeps one, so does Chris Sells. Chris Maunder is keeping one in his CP profile :-D Yes there is a lot of crap, just like with anything. Lots of rubbish C++ apps, but C++ is not rubbish and there are enough good C++ apps. And frankly, the Soapbox is like one communual blog to me. People waffle on about the daftest things (like me, the gooseberry jam and the bread), pretty sure you have posted there too... ;)

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

                Ray Cassick wrote: Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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                My blog is primarily for me but from the emails I receive other people like it, ask me for help or advice far more than when it was just a homepage. Turning my homepage into a Blog was a good move for me and for the readers so I totally disagree that blogs are useless :) Davy Weblog, Ramblings and more... www.latedecember.com

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                  My blog is primarily for me but from the emails I receive other people like it, ask me for help or advice far more than when it was just a homepage. Turning my homepage into a Blog was a good move for me and for the readers so I totally disagree that blogs are useless :) Davy Weblog, Ramblings and more... www.latedecember.com

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                  Paul Watson
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                  Davy Mitchell wrote: Turning my homepage into a Blog was a good move for me and for the readers so I totally disagree that blogs are useless That is what I like about blogs. Most people see the technology as just a way for some disgruntled teenager to rant. But it is also a brilliant way to keep company and other professional sites News pages up to date. News needs to be chronological, dated and headed. Blogs do all of that and easily. Davy Mitchell wrote: My blog is primarily for me but from the emails I receive other people like it, ask me for help or advice far more than when it was just a homepage. Great. The way I see it is: I blog what I want to blog, if other people find it interesting or useful then great. If they don't, then no one is forcing them to read it. I often use my blog to record useful links and my thoughts on a particular topic, but not for others, but for me. That way I can come back and see what I thought about XYZ at the time, or revisit a useful link.

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Ray Cassick wrote: Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Roger Wright wrote: If your friends and family don't want to hear your rambling thoughts, what makes you think the entire world wants to read them? If they do, talk to them You are blaming the medium for the sins of the authors. I have read some pretty awful books, but I don't think books are bad or a waste of time. As for blogs specifically there are many very interesting ones out there. Zeldman.com is one for web developers, Don Box keeps one, so does Chris Sells. Chris Maunder is keeping one in his CP profile :-D Yes there is a lot of crap, just like with anything. Lots of rubbish C++ apps, but C++ is not rubbish and there are enough good C++ apps. And frankly, the Soapbox is like one communual blog to me. People waffle on about the daftest things (like me, the gooseberry jam and the bread), pretty sure you have posted there too... ;)

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Ray Cassick wrote: Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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                    Paul Watson wrote: pretty sure you have posted there too... Guilty as charged, though my ramblings there are directed to an audience that is known to have at least some members who share my sense of humor!:-D "Another day done; all targets met; all systems fully operational; all customers satisfied; all staff keen and well motivated; all pigs fed and ready to fly." - Jennie Agard, McGuckin Hardware Systems Manager

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                    • S Sean Cull

                      I just spent the last half hour reading some blogs about Java. Up with Java, down with MS. MS will burn, etc. Maybe it's just me, but the last while I've read quite a few blog sites, and most of them seem to be about nothing. Kind of like a Seinfeld episode, only not as funny. I was just curious how many of you out there have a blog on your personal site. I mean something other than just posting updates as to new software releases, patches, changelogs, etc. Do you think they're a good idea? Bad? I ask because I was thinking of starting one. I guess I could always use it to rant about work, but a few months back I read a weblog where its owner complained about his boss, and a co-worker snitched to his boss about it. 24 hours later the blogger in question was sans job. I guess the moral there would be never to blog about work, or if so be deliberately vague about it. -Sean

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                      A few rules which are useful for blogs: (1) Don't write about things which are only pertinent to your own life. I hate reading personal blogs where people write "he said she said...", and I'm thinking, "Why do I care?" (2) Don't write about personal things AND tell your friends/coworkers about the existence of your blog. Do one or the other. Not both. I do occasionally write in a blog, but when I write about anything in my personal life, it always contains an application to / observation about the larger common world which other people (even total strangers) can think about. And, I don't tell people I know about the existence of the blog. Why not? Because if I know certain other people are reading it, then I have to tiptoe through certain subjects (or face the consequences). The end result is that you either (1) don't write about the situation at all, or (2) lie about your true feelings. (Case in point: the previously mentioned situation where the blogger wrote about his boss.) ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

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