Is it just me...
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or does the VS2010 IDE look and feel like some crappy Java IDE from 1996 ?
Chris Losinger wrote:
crappy Java IDE
Tautology alert.
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Chris Losinger wrote:
crappy Java IDE
Tautology alert.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Tautology alert.
:laugh:
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or does the VS2010 IDE look and feel like some crappy Java IDE from 1996 ?
I didn't like it initially, now I kinda got used to it. I am still on the RC though.
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or does the VS2010 IDE look and feel like some crappy Java IDE from 1996 ?
it may not be just you, but VS2010 is way better than every Java IDE I've ever used including Eclipse. I must admit I haven't used any new ones in the last couple of years. I never understood how they managed to create those terribly non-responsive IDE's, I've created quite some Java stuff myself, and never discovered a good enough probable cause for crappiness. :)
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or does the VS2010 IDE look and feel like some crappy Java IDE from 1996 ?
I kind of like it. We also have themes!!! As a side note I wouldn't know of the JAVA 1996 IDE since my first(s) real IDE(s) (not school like Borland C++) were Eclipse and Visual Studio .Net 2003. :)
Just an irritated, ranting son of ... an IT guy. At your trolling services
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or does the VS2010 IDE look and feel like some crappy Java IDE from 1996 ?
It's just you.
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it may not be just you, but VS2010 is way better than every Java IDE I've ever used including Eclipse. I must admit I haven't used any new ones in the last couple of years. I never understood how they managed to create those terribly non-responsive IDE's, I've created quite some Java stuff myself, and never discovered a good enough probable cause for crappiness. :)
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
VS2010 is way better than every Java IDE I've ever used including Eclipse
i closed a solution (the first solution i ever opened), and the entire IDE went white, except for a non-functioning ghost view of the search/replace dialog - a dialog which had suddenly docked itself to the right side of the IDE. not. ready. for. release.
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
VS2010 is way better than every Java IDE I've ever used including Eclipse
i closed a solution (the first solution i ever opened), and the entire IDE went white, except for a non-functioning ghost view of the search/replace dialog - a dialog which had suddenly docked itself to the right side of the IDE. not. ready. for. release.
sh*t happens. The day I first installed VS2010, I copied a 100KLOC project and rebuild it; in less than 20 minutes I had everything in working conditions. I still use VS2008 most of the time, but that is because some of my machines don't have VS2010 installed, and I want to keep my projects compatible across them all. :)
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It's just you.
no, really: the mismatched styles between the menu bar, the top toolbar, the window frame and the interior IDE screams "1996!" the round-topped frameless windows, the bitmap background ? the colors ? X|
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no, really: the mismatched styles between the menu bar, the top toolbar, the window frame and the interior IDE screams "1996!" the round-topped frameless windows, the bitmap background ? the colors ? X|
I like the way the general appearance of the IDE is much more flat than 2008. It gives the impression that the tool is more lightweight. (I know it's just an impression, but still...)
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no, really: the mismatched styles between the menu bar, the top toolbar, the window frame and the interior IDE screams "1996!" the round-topped frameless windows, the bitmap background ? the colors ? X|
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sh*t happens. The day I first installed VS2010, I copied a 100KLOC project and rebuild it; in less than 20 minutes I had everything in working conditions. I still use VS2008 most of the time, but that is because some of my machines don't have VS2010 installed, and I want to keep my projects compatible across them all. :)
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
sh*t happens.
:laugh: second time i tried "close solution", the IDE went solid black. hooray for variety!
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no, really: the mismatched styles between the menu bar, the top toolbar, the window frame and the interior IDE screams "1996!" the round-topped frameless windows, the bitmap background ? the colors ? X|
If the color scheme is really bothering you, you can download another theme. There was a thread on that here very recently.
Regards, Nish
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If the color scheme is really bothering you, you can download another theme. There was a thread on that here very recently.
Regards, Nish
Blog: blog.voidnish.com Most recent article: An MVVM friendly approach to adding system menu entries in a WPF application
the color is just one part of it. the whole UI style is icky.
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or does the VS2010 IDE look and feel like some crappy Java IDE from 1996 ?
Dunno. Never user Java. But I prefer the color scheme of 2008; 2010 is too dark for my tastes.
modified on Saturday, June 5, 2010 12:56 PM
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the color is just one part of it. the whole UI style is icky.
Chris Losinger wrote:
the color is just one part of it. the whole UI style is icky.
If you think this UI is bad, you should take a look at Expression Blend. It's probably the most ghastly UI you'd have seen in years :-D
Regards, Nish
Blog: blog.voidnish.com Most recent article: An MVVM friendly approach to adding system menu entries in a WPF application
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
sh*t happens.
:laugh: second time i tried "close solution", the IDE went solid black. hooray for variety!
Keep trying. You're bound to eventually get a color you'll like. BTW: did you perform a clean install? or did you have a beta or RC before? Mine was clean, I'm in no hurry getting the latest of everything. :)
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Dunno. Never user Java. But I prefer the color scheme of 2008; 2010 is too dark for my tastes.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
2010 is to dark
if you meant that literally, you could skin[^] it. :)
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Keep trying. You're bound to eventually get a color you'll like. BTW: did you perform a clean install? or did you have a beta or RC before? Mine was clean, I'm in no hurry getting the latest of everything. :)
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nope, this is the first time i've installed it. it's a clean install of the "trial" version that i downloaded Wednesday. here's some fun. i'm building a library. it's all C/C++, no MFC or ATL. some STL. so, same source code, same build options, 5 different VC++ versions. this is a static lib, linking against the debug multi-threaded CRT. watch the library size grow! VC6: 8,400K VS03: 19,000K VS05: 33,000K VS08: 36,000K VS10: 60,000K again, same source, same options. as if the 4x bloat from VC6 to VS08 wasn't bad enough, the nearly 8x bloat to VS10 is absurd. and why ? well, it probably has something to do with the fact that you can no longer omit debugging info from a library ! (Properties, C/C++, General, Debug Info Format). another fine choice, MS. as was getting rid of the MDI interface!
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or does the VS2010 IDE look and feel like some crappy Java IDE from 1996 ?
