This is fantastic stuff, truly epic.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
- Governments and corporations are made up of PEOPLE. Lots and lots of people. The vast majority of these people are merely in support positions, to carry out the instructions of the top brass. These are not programmed automatons that are unable to think for themselves. These are just people, of varying levels of intelligence, with varying personalities and motivations. 2) For any of these vast, global conspiracies to work, they would require the involvement, willing cooperation, and complete confidentiality of hundreds or thousands of these people. 3) In this day and age, any idiot with half a brain can hop on the Internet and tell the entire world their secrets, whether it's through anonymous forum postings, blogs, or a whistleblower site like Wikileaks. Any action by the government/corporation/illuminati to cover up said postings would just elicit more attention (See: Streisand Effect)
Mao's government murdered 60-80 million Chinese, Stanlin's government murdered millions, Hitlers government murdered millions. And to say that the internet is bringing light to these murderous people, you are right, and that is why they are moving to shut it down. However they still have sheep like you to go along to get along, and refusing to investigate anything and just dismiss it as a conspiracy theory.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Mao's government murdered 60-80 million Chinese, Stanlin's government murdered millions, Hitlers government murdered millions.
Not conspiracies Done with public in-the-know So not relevant.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
And to say that the internet is bringing light to these murderous people, you are right, and that is why they are moving to shut it down.
Story proven false In the back room, days ago You ignored the facts
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
However they still have sheep like you to go along to get along, and refusing to investigate anything and just dismiss it as a conspiracy theory.
There is a divide 'tween researching evidence And believing it You always assume Every theory is gospel Never question it Those of us with brains Look at facts on either side Make up our own minds Then, if your side fails Dismiss as conspiracy Laugh at you some more.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Mao's government murdered 60-80 million Chinese, Stanlin's government murdered millions, Hitlers government murdered millions.
Not conspiracies Done with public in-the-know So not relevant.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
And to say that the internet is bringing light to these murderous people, you are right, and that is why they are moving to shut it down.
Story proven false In the back room, days ago You ignored the facts
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
However they still have sheep like you to go along to get along, and refusing to investigate anything and just dismiss it as a conspiracy theory.
There is a divide 'tween researching evidence And believing it You always assume Every theory is gospel Never question it Those of us with brains Look at facts on either side Make up our own minds Then, if your side fails Dismiss as conspiracy Laugh at you some more.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
Not conspiracies
Do you even know what a conspiracy is?
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Not conspiracies
Do you even know what a conspiracy is?
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Conspiracies are Defined by their secrecy. What more need be said?
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Conspiracies are Defined by their secrecy. What more need be said?
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)People didn't believe Hitler was exterminating Jews, in fact, there are still people who deny it. You are similar to a Holocaust denier.
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People didn't believe Hitler was exterminating Jews, in fact, there are still people who deny it. You are similar to a Holocaust denier.
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Wow, that happened fast You have invoked Godwin's Law You have lost the thread.
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Wow, that happened fast You have invoked Godwin's Law You have lost the thread.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)This is the perfect quote for you. "Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible." - Bertrand Russell
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This is the perfect quote for you. "Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible." - Bertrand Russell
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Here is one for you: "I'm a Karamazov... when I fall into the abyss, I go straight into it, head down and heels up, and I'm even pleased that I'm falling in such a humiliating position, and for me I find it beautiful. And so in that very shame I suddenly begin a hymn. Let me be cursed, let me be base and vile, but let me also kiss the hem of that garment in which my God is clothed; let me be following the devil at the same time, but still I am also your son, Lord, and I love you, and I feel a joy without which the world cannot stand and be."
The bearing of a child takes nine months, no matter how many women are assigned.
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This is the perfect quote for you. "Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible." - Bertrand Russell
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Already said that And you ignored rebuttals Just as usual.
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This is the perfect quote for you. "Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible." - Bertrand Russell
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This is an argument from authority i.e. invoke the name of some respected person to support one's views. However, such arguments are highly suspect. In this case more so since they are BR's opinions about how the future will develop. They are not cast iron certainties as to what is to come. It's rather like me quoting Zamyatin, Orwell or Huxley to support a particular view of what might happen. In this case you would (rightly) dismiss the views since they are fiction, but the same applies to BR except they are speculation.
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
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This is an argument from authority i.e. invoke the name of some respected person to support one's views. However, such arguments are highly suspect. In this case more so since they are BR's opinions about how the future will develop. They are not cast iron certainties as to what is to come. It's rather like me quoting Zamyatin, Orwell or Huxley to support a particular view of what might happen. In this case you would (rightly) dismiss the views since they are fiction, but the same applies to BR except they are speculation.
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
You're assuming he can tell the difference between fiction and reality :) I'm glad he hasn't read my novels... Otherwise he'd be preaching about a vast, inter-dimensional army poised to invade our planet. Then he'd probably start talking about powerful sorcerers living among us that can save us from the invaders... You know, come to think of it, that would make a much more entertaining forum thread.
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I don't "believe" theories. I do research into psycology, history, understand the mindset of the public and people in government, read the books written by these globalists like John P. Holdren and Rockefeller. It is all right in front of your face but you are under a spell. It is psychologically impossible for you to assess your trap. Here are some quotes from Bertrand Russell for you. "Scientific societies are as yet in their infancy. . . . It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fitche laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. . . . Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . . . "Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton." . . . there is a small area of brain tissue that is responsible for the individual's power to resist domination. Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluorine will in time gradually reduce the individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotizing this area of brain tissue and make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. . . . . . . any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person, mentally or physically.'"
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I do research into psycology, history, understand the mindset of the public and people in government, read the books written by these globalists like John P. Holdren and Rockefeller.
Ah, yes. Your amazing understanding of Holdren's 'Ecoscience: Population, Resources, and Environment'[^]. Your responses make it quite clear that you had never read the book, just an out of context quote from one of those sites that attacked Obama via his Science Advisor, Holdren. As you now claim to have read the book, can you tell me which 'genocidal' option Holdren chose?
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
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fat_boy wrote:
we also need geo-engineering because we have already gone way beyond the safe CO2 level of 300 to 325 ppm.
Nobody believes me when I say they are chemtrailing us (a laymen's term for geo-engineering)
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Quote from Wikipedia: The chemtrail conspiracy theory holds that some contrails are actually chemicals or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for a purpose undisclosed to the general public. Nothing to do with geo-engineering. And follow Ian's link for the full article.
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People didn't believe Hitler was exterminating Jews, in fact, there are still people who deny it. You are similar to a Holocaust denier.
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here is your strawman: equating the holocaust to conspiracies
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I'd like to say that I'm trying to talk sense into him, or force him to think logically instead of just following the party line... But really, I'm just bored.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
But really, I'm just bored.
^this
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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I don't "believe" theories. I do research into psycology, history, understand the mindset of the public and people in government, read the books written by these globalists like John P. Holdren and Rockefeller. It is all right in front of your face but you are under a spell. It is psychologically impossible for you to assess your trap. Here are some quotes from Bertrand Russell for you. "Scientific societies are as yet in their infancy. . . . It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fitche laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. . . . Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . . . "Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton." . . . there is a small area of brain tissue that is responsible for the individual's power to resist domination. Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluorine will in time gradually reduce the individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotizing this area of brain tissue and make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. . . . . . . any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person, mentally or physically.'"
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Here are some quotes from Bertrand Russell for you.
And here are some for you [my emphasis], enjoy: "If raw materials are not to be used up too fast, there must not be free competition for their acquisition and use but an international authority to ration them in such quantities as may from time to time seem compatible with continued industrial prosperity. And similar considerations apply to soil conservation." "To deal with [the problem of increasing population and decreasing food supplies] it will be necessary to find ways of preventing an increase in world population. If this is to be done otherwise than by wars, pestilence, and famines, it will demand a powerful international authority. This authority should deal out the world’s food to the various nations in proportion to their population at the time of the establishment of the authority. If any nation subsequently increased its population it should not on that account receive any more food. The motive for not increasing population would therefore be very compelling. What method of preventing an increase might be preferred should be left to each state to decide."
Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.
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I don't "believe" theories. I do research into psycology, history, understand the mindset of the public and people in government, read the books written by these globalists like John P. Holdren and Rockefeller. It is all right in front of your face but you are under a spell. It is psychologically impossible for you to assess your trap. Here are some quotes from Bertrand Russell for you. "Scientific societies are as yet in their infancy. . . . It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fitche laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. . . . Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . . . "Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton." . . . there is a small area of brain tissue that is responsible for the individual's power to resist domination. Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluorine will in time gradually reduce the individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotizing this area of brain tissue and make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. . . . . . . any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person, mentally or physically.'"
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You're assuming he can tell the difference between fiction and reality :) I'm glad he hasn't read my novels... Otherwise he'd be preaching about a vast, inter-dimensional army poised to invade our planet. Then he'd probably start talking about powerful sorcerers living among us that can save us from the invaders... You know, come to think of it, that would make a much more entertaining forum thread.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)you wrote dyanetics? /ducksandruns
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you wrote dyanetics? /ducksandruns
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
Man... That's just mean... Seriously, if my novels become famous and develop a religious following, I'm going to take every possible opportunity to remind the public that they're works of fiction, and that anyone who believes them to be some kind of religious text needs a straight jacket and a padded cell. EDIT: I'm not saying scientology is an actual religion... But I don't want to say what I REALLY think about it, because I'm using my real name, and they'll probably google this post and sue me.
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Man... That's just mean... Seriously, if my novels become famous and develop a religious following, I'm going to take every possible opportunity to remind the public that they're works of fiction, and that anyone who believes them to be some kind of religious text needs a straight jacket and a padded cell. EDIT: I'm not saying scientology is an actual religion... But I don't want to say what I REALLY think about it, because I'm using my real name, and they'll probably google this post and sue me.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Heh. I talked to someone that was stoned in the room with those two when they made their famous bet about making a religion. Stranger in a Strange Land's religion was much cooler if you ask me. remind me to buy a book if this job I interviewed for pans out.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
There are extremists on both sides.
If the extremists of the left go far enough to the extremes, the left of center centrists like yourself will go farther to the left to calibrate.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
and since the issue is becoming more and more political instead of purely scientific
It never was purely scientific. It was a fabrication designed to fear-monger people into accept tyranny and carbon taxes. The idea that humans are bad and their activities must be stopped is an extremely dangerous one.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The idea that humans are bad and their activities must be stopped is an extremely dangerous one.
Tell that to the dodo or passenger pigeon. I don't think anyone but the loonies are arguing that human activity needs to be stopped. Some of our actions need to be modified if we want to keep our environment viable for us. This is pretty hard to argue against when you see the damage pollution and uncontrolled industry have on the local environment.
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