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    Hi all, Isn't it time for all the browsers to implement 3D VR support to be able to have a VR surfing, :) It would be so cool to have a VR walk in New York's streets, or maybe Tokyo, MAN! Am not sure about the name of the movie that Keanu Reeves played as a Data Memory Broker that he downloads data into his brain and tranfers it to the buyers!? :suss: I guess it was something like Mnemonic... What do you think!? :rolleyes: Masoud

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      Hi all, Isn't it time for all the browsers to implement 3D VR support to be able to have a VR surfing, :) It would be so cool to have a VR walk in New York's streets, or maybe Tokyo, MAN! Am not sure about the name of the movie that Keanu Reeves played as a Data Memory Broker that he downloads data into his brain and tranfers it to the buyers!? :suss: I guess it was something like Mnemonic... What do you think!? :rolleyes: Masoud

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      It was Johnny Mnemonic, a terrible :mad: film version of the much better original short story by William Gibson. I'm a huge fan of Gibson. He's credited for inventing the word 'cyberspace' in his book Neuromancer (in which it's also referred to as the matrix), although his vision of it's a far cry from the rubbish labelled cyberspace by the media. The only saving grace of the film of Johnny Mnemonic was the almost passable cyberspace sequences; they weren't quite right but not far off the book version. As far as walking through streets and so on (as in 'realistic' VR), there's still not the power and particularly the bandwidth available in the common computer available to the public. Not by a long shot. Besides, it's only really applicable for entertainment value; fine for websites when the hardware's available, but no use for operating systems interfaces. Gibson's abstract geometric cyberspace has a chance though. Obviously the total immersion direct into the nervous system and thought-controlled aspects are a long way off. One big problem with 3D web and desktop interfaces (there are a few being tried, but they're still primitive) is text. Text is fine when you look at it straight on, but start looking at text on a slightly angled 3D surface, and the artifacts caused by the texture sampling instantly renders chunks of it unreadable, unless it's uselessly large. 3D hardware's geared towards smoothing off textures so they don't look jaggy, but text needs pretty sharp rendering and antialiasing. Another problem's input. The mouse is two dimensional, and might not fit too well with the 3D experience. I don't know if GUIs will go 3D or not. If they do, they'll need a completely different paradigm to the 'desktop'.

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        It was Johnny Mnemonic, a terrible :mad: film version of the much better original short story by William Gibson. I'm a huge fan of Gibson. He's credited for inventing the word 'cyberspace' in his book Neuromancer (in which it's also referred to as the matrix), although his vision of it's a far cry from the rubbish labelled cyberspace by the media. The only saving grace of the film of Johnny Mnemonic was the almost passable cyberspace sequences; they weren't quite right but not far off the book version. As far as walking through streets and so on (as in 'realistic' VR), there's still not the power and particularly the bandwidth available in the common computer available to the public. Not by a long shot. Besides, it's only really applicable for entertainment value; fine for websites when the hardware's available, but no use for operating systems interfaces. Gibson's abstract geometric cyberspace has a chance though. Obviously the total immersion direct into the nervous system and thought-controlled aspects are a long way off. One big problem with 3D web and desktop interfaces (there are a few being tried, but they're still primitive) is text. Text is fine when you look at it straight on, but start looking at text on a slightly angled 3D surface, and the artifacts caused by the texture sampling instantly renders chunks of it unreadable, unless it's uselessly large. 3D hardware's geared towards smoothing off textures so they don't look jaggy, but text needs pretty sharp rendering and antialiasing. Another problem's input. The mouse is two dimensional, and might not fit too well with the 3D experience. I don't know if GUIs will go 3D or not. If they do, they'll need a completely different paradigm to the 'desktop'.

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        Neuromancer was a great book. Has anyone been reading Tad Williams "Otherland" series? The vision of a fully interactive (indeed, proactive) web in the story is way, way cool. Another problem's input. The mouse is two dimensional, and might not fit too well with the 3D experience. Nah - easy. 'A' and 'D' for left/right movement, 'W'/'S' for forwards and backwards, Mouse for looking. And left button for firing, right button for grenades... :-D cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Hi all, Isn't it time for all the browsers to implement 3D VR support to be able to have a VR surfing, :) It would be so cool to have a VR walk in New York's streets, or maybe Tokyo, MAN! Am not sure about the name of the movie that Keanu Reeves played as a Data Memory Broker that he downloads data into his brain and tranfers it to the buyers!? :suss: I guess it was something like Mnemonic... What do you think!? :rolleyes: Masoud

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          There already is such a thing - VRML (virtual reality modeling language). Check out the WRML Repository for some browser plugins and lots of other info. --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ "Didn't I tell you? I've got a brain the size of a planet."   Marvin the paranoid android

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            There already is such a thing - VRML (virtual reality modeling language). Check out the WRML Repository for some browser plugins and lots of other info. --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ "Didn't I tell you? I've got a brain the size of a planet."   Marvin the paranoid android

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            Hi Mike, Oh ya, ya, That one I know! the VRML is for me to HUNT! right after I first finish with OpenGL huntings! :confused: But I just thought of why not everyone puts it as a fixed module inside the browsers! plugins are messy! :-) Are we not y2k YET? :), many things were supposed to happen and I thought the 3D should have the full green light to open a hot dog kiosk in every corner of computer crossroad! Eat 3D, Drink 3D, Sleep 3D... I guess am just too krayzee with 3Ds! :) Masoud

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