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  • A Ali Raza Shaikh

    Recently at Microsoft Worldwide Partner Conference 2010, Microsoft announced the Windows Phone Live service that will be available for Windows Phone 7 devices. http://microsoftfeed.com/2010/microsoft-announces-windows-phone-live/[^]

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    Useless considering Phone 7 is going to die a quick death, just like Kin did. For what I've read, there isn't a single developer looking to do anything with Phone 7. I've seen nothing but scathing reviews of the SDK and Phone 7's capabilities, which are just archaic compared to OS4 and WebOS.

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      Useless considering Phone 7 is going to die a quick death, just like Kin did. For what I've read, there isn't a single developer looking to do anything with Phone 7. I've seen nothing but scathing reviews of the SDK and Phone 7's capabilities, which are just archaic compared to OS4 and WebOS.

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      leppie
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      I agree, the Windows Mobile platform is about 5 years behind the competition.

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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        Useless considering Phone 7 is going to die a quick death, just like Kin did. For what I've read, there isn't a single developer looking to do anything with Phone 7. I've seen nothing but scathing reviews of the SDK and Phone 7's capabilities, which are just archaic compared to OS4 and WebOS.

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Oh. I guess my entire team are going to hang their heads in shame then; we are developing a few applications for WP7 - we have a few clients already expressing an interest who don't want iPhones and have legacy lock in on MS platforms which make them more inclined towards WP7 than Android.

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          Oh. I guess my entire team are going to hang their heads in shame then; we are developing a few applications for WP7 - we have a few clients already expressing an interest who don't want iPhones and have legacy lock in on MS platforms which make them more inclined towards WP7 than Android.

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          Lost User
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          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

          we have a few clients already expressing an interest who don't want iPhones and have legacy lock in on MS platforms which make them more inclined towards WP7 than Android.

          (Rubbing temples, peering into the thick smoke in the yurt...) ... and that's about all there will be - people with a 'legacy lock' who aren't familiar with the competition. Individuals/companies who are actually familiar with the competition, and who aren't afraid to venture out into the wild world without MS holding their hands, will honestly evaluate the competing platforms... and that'll be the end of WM. (Now give me a minute to get these goat entrails off my desk; working as a seer can get so messy...)

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            Oh. I guess my entire team are going to hang their heads in shame then; we are developing a few applications for WP7 - we have a few clients already expressing an interest who don't want iPhones and have legacy lock in on MS platforms which make them more inclined towards WP7 than Android.

            "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

            As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            I guess my entire team are going to hang their heads in shame then

            Quite possibly! It is very difficult for WP7 to succeed if not impossible. So far MS has done only one right thing by providing developers with free phones. Those clients in my opinion are pretty rare. In fact for my application under development, I have not seen anyone express any sort of interest in WP7. Though, WP7 is easier to develop (My app is supposed to have a SilverLight frontend).

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              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              I guess my entire team are going to hang their heads in shame then

              Quite possibly! It is very difficult for WP7 to succeed if not impossible. So far MS has done only one right thing by providing developers with free phones. Those clients in my opinion are pretty rare. In fact for my application under development, I have not seen anyone express any sort of interest in WP7. Though, WP7 is easier to develop (My app is supposed to have a SilverLight frontend).

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              Pete OHanlon
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              If it wasn't for lock in, we'd have seen no interest but there it is - lock in is making it attractive enough to develop for.

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                If it wasn't for lock in, we'd have seen no interest but there it is - lock in is making it attractive enough to develop for.

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                That’s good then, to find a few clients with the lock in. All the big companies that I am targeting are so far very skeptical and will wait for at least a year to see how it works before committing IT support for it. The big thing for me is the SilverLight support which I think is a great step.

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                • A Ali Raza Shaikh

                  Recently at Microsoft Worldwide Partner Conference 2010, Microsoft announced the Windows Phone Live service that will be available for Windows Phone 7 devices. http://microsoftfeed.com/2010/microsoft-announces-windows-phone-live/[^]

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                  Media2r
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                  That link is not KSS. //L

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                    Oh. I guess my entire team are going to hang their heads in shame then; we are developing a few applications for WP7 - we have a few clients already expressing an interest who don't want iPhones and have legacy lock in on MS platforms which make them more inclined towards WP7 than Android.

                    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                    The hell of it is that the APIs are all different so the legacy phone apps will need rewritten anyway. It might not be too bad for newer ones written in .net; but anything older and in embedded C++ is up a creek without a paddle.

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                    • D Dave Kreskowiak

                      Useless considering Phone 7 is going to die a quick death, just like Kin did. For what I've read, there isn't a single developer looking to do anything with Phone 7. I've seen nothing but scathing reviews of the SDK and Phone 7's capabilities, which are just archaic compared to OS4 and WebOS.

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                      Rocky Moore
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                      My thoughts are that MS is not really putting all the guns on the consumer market, but looking into business world for their big revenue. It is interesting that Intuit is developing an SDK for the WP7 to patch into their finance cloud system: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/wpdev/archive/2010/07/13/intuit-partner-platform-delivers-windows-phone-7-sdk.aspx[^] I think over the coming years, MS may just be right in their as their are with their XBox in the gaming world, but the first areas they go after might be more business related.

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