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  • C Chris Maunder

    Beer first, then big strategic attack.

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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    Chris Maunder wrote:

    Beer first, then big strategic attack.

    What could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes: :laugh:

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    • J Joe Woodbury

      Not true. Simply drinking water after a lot of sweating can lead to serious electrolyte imbalance: Water intoxication[^]

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      But it is true if you consider the amount of water he was talking about... 4 liters is nothing. Water toxicity is a hard level to reach, so you acting like it happens without much effort is a bit of a stretch. And athletes need at least half their body weight in ounces if they are going to sweat a lot. I drink more than 4 liters every day (more like 6 to 8 depending), and I feel better for it compared when to not drinking as much. It makes kidney and liver functions easier as well. Besides, most foods also have salt in them as a preservative, which gives you those electrolytes back anyway. So cherry picking one little fact without considering what else is going into your body is not really seeing the big picture. Point is, 4 liters of water a day won't hurt you at all, and in fact it'll be beneficial. Ok, maybe if you're a 20 pound midget that's too much, but for the average person I mean - especially an athlete.

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      • T The Digital Worm

        Believe me it took real hard effort to increase my daily water intake, right now drinking 4 liters of cool clear water per day, no colas no sweetened drinks. Drinking lots and lots of water is undoubtedly good for health, but since human body is made of 70% fluid I am finding this increased intake of water actually put few extra pounds on me. Nevertheless, drink(only water), enjoy and stay safe :)

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        The Digital Worm wrote:

        intake of water actually put few extra pounds on me.

        You'll actually hold less water by drinking a lot. Not giving your body enough water will make it retain it and stay bloated. Which is why really fat people tend to have a LOT of water weight... they don't drink nowhere near enough for their body weight.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          No, it doesn't, that is a fallacy. In fact for about 100 years the people of london only frank beer, as the water would have killed you. Children would get two pints of beer a day at school (those that could afford to go there), and most people would drink 6 to 8 pints a day. It is an urban myth that beer dehydrates. There is far more water in the beer than the alcohol could possible absorb.

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          No, it doesn't, that is a fallacy.

          It may temporarily hydrate, but once alcohol enters your system your body does anything and everything to get rid of it because it's a poison. That includes urination and out the sweat glands. Guess what the transport mechanism is for your kidneys and liver? It's water. In fact, a hangover is mostly severe dehydration.

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          • T The Digital Worm

            I try to refrain from eating and drinking water together this dilutes digestive acids, slow down metabolism and in result you may actually put extra flab.

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            Well, that's a bit of overkill. I bet you can eat soup for a month and not gain weight.

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            • Y Yusuf

              The Digital Worm wrote:

              y dietitian told me that the max limit of daily intake of fluids is your weight in pounds/40,

              My math bit rusty, but if a person weighs 175 lbs then 175/40 = 4.375

              The Digital Worm wrote:

              it comes exact 5 liters a day for me.

              Hmmm, You sure it is liters? that means the above person can consume max of 4.375 liters of water per day. So, 1 litre = 4+ cups 4.375 * 4 = 17.5 cups a day :omg: :wtf: p.s. I know what you said was maximum, but don't you think that is way off.

              Yusuf May I help you?

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              Dan Neely
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              Very few people actually drink anywhere near as much water as doctors recommend.

              3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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              • S Single Step Debugger

                Holly crap, is that true? It could be, because it’s sounds logical if the water is contaminated and I suppose after some time your body gets used with it and you are not even drunk. I remember some interview with a Bulgarian physician who was explaining that it’s not true that the Asian people are lacking from some enzyme which is decomposing the alcohol. The truth is that the Europeans have one extra enzyme because of thousand years drinking.

                The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                I remember some interview with a Bulgarian physician who was explaining that it’s not true that the Asian people are lacking from some enzyme which is decomposing the alcohol. The truth is that the Europeans have one extra enzyme because of thousand years drinking.

                I'd like a peer reviewed citation before giving any credit to that. If the gene was added to the western European population we wouldn't just be talking about Asians who can't handle their liquor; it would also include various indigenous groups who didn't invent brewing; but while I've read about much higher levels of Alcoholism among Native Americans and Australian Aborigines I've never heard about them getting drunk on 2 or 3 beers.

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                • T The Digital Worm

                  Joe Woodbury wrote:

                  drinking about two liters is sufficient for most adults.

                  Depends on your size and how much you consume, I used to do cardio workout for 30 minutes everyday and lose almost half a liter water in the morning itself. Moreover, my dietitian told me that the max limit of daily intake of fluids is your weight in pounds/40, it comes exact 5 liters a day for me.

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                  Either you're enormous or your dietitian is an idiot or tragically misinformed. 5 liters of water a day for a healthy individual who is not running marathons in the desert and is of average size is entering danger territory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication[^]


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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    It still hydrates.

                    And dehydrates almost as quickly. :-D

                    Regards, Nish


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                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    And dehydrates almost as quickly.

                    That's harder alcohol... however, you never buy beer... you only pay rent.... ;P

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                    • T The Digital Worm

                      Believe me it took real hard effort to increase my daily water intake, right now drinking 4 liters of cool clear water per day, no colas no sweetened drinks. Drinking lots and lots of water is undoubtedly good for health, but since human body is made of 70% fluid I am finding this increased intake of water actually put few extra pounds on me. Nevertheless, drink(only water), enjoy and stay safe :)

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                      Pierre Leclercq
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                      If you do cardio training every day, plain water might not be the best choice. See this: http://www.brianmac.co.uk/drinks.htm[^]

                      You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.

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                      • R Richard Blythe

                        Did you ever hear this one: A guy walks into a bar and orders three beers. He explained to the bartender that he had just moved from Wisconsin where he and his two buddies would have a drink every Friday. The two other beers were in memory of his buddies. One Friday he walks in and orders two beers instead of three! The bartender asks: why two? The man replies: "I've quit drinking" (Corny? sure it is) :-D

                        The mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work unless it’s open.

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                        I heard that one years ago in Chicago from Michael J Smith (the folk singer), but he made it last about 5 mins... :laugh:

                        It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca

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                        • M Member 96

                          Either you're enormous or your dietitian is an idiot or tragically misinformed. 5 liters of water a day for a healthy individual who is not running marathons in the desert and is of average size is entering danger territory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication[^]


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                          _Damian S_
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                          The water drinking myth has been around for so long that you will struggle to get anyone to believe otherwise... It's true that we need around 2L per day on average, but this inludes that which comes from food, not just water... Doesn't matter how many times this is pointed out, the myth continues...

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                            But it is true if you consider the amount of water he was talking about... 4 liters is nothing. Water toxicity is a hard level to reach, so you acting like it happens without much effort is a bit of a stretch. And athletes need at least half their body weight in ounces if they are going to sweat a lot. I drink more than 4 liters every day (more like 6 to 8 depending), and I feel better for it compared when to not drinking as much. It makes kidney and liver functions easier as well. Besides, most foods also have salt in them as a preservative, which gives you those electrolytes back anyway. So cherry picking one little fact without considering what else is going into your body is not really seeing the big picture. Point is, 4 liters of water a day won't hurt you at all, and in fact it'll be beneficial. Ok, maybe if you're a 20 pound midget that's too much, but for the average person I mean - especially an athlete.

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                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            4 liters of water a day won't hurt you at all, and in fact it'll be beneficial.

                            By what strange pseudo scientific bizzaro world rules are you working? Beneficial? How? Show us the science?

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                              Very few people actually drink anywhere near as much water as doctors recommend.

                              3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                              Ray Cassick
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                              I do, but then very few people practically have a prescription form the DR dictating how much water they have to drink each day to help keep internal toxicity levels to a minimum because of all the chemicals I have to swallow :) for me, 64 oz minimum on regular days, add 16 more ounces on days, and the days in the next week after that, when I am taking my chemo pills.


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                              • J Joe Woodbury

                                The Digital Worm wrote:

                                Drinking lots and lots of water is undoubtedly good for health,

                                Drinking lots and lots of water will kill you. Drinking excessive water can lead to serious electrolyte imbalances in your body. Since a person gets quite a bit of water from food, drinking about two liters is sufficient for most adults.

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                                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                You are both right, depending on your definition of "lots and lots". 4 litres, which few people drink in a single day is OK. Twice that amount, especially if you don't relieve yourself, will probably kill you.

                                Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!) "cant stand heat myself. As soon as its near 90`F I seriously start to loose interest in doing much." - fat_boy. "Finally we agree, a little warming will be good if it makes you shut the f*** up about it." - Tim Craig.

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                                  Yes, that is true aparently. thousands of years of drinking beer at 2% has given us the ability to handle alcohol.

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                                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                  fat_boy wrote:

                                  thousands of years of drinking beer at 2% has given us the ability to handle alcohol.

                                  Evidently, not DD though. :)

                                  Cheers, विक्रम (Got my troika of CCCs!) "cant stand heat myself. As soon as its near 90`F I seriously start to loose interest in doing much." - fat_boy. "Finally we agree, a little warming will be good if it makes you shut the f*** up about it." - Tim Craig.

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                                    d@nish wrote:

                                    The Digital Worm wrote: intake of water actually put few extra pounds on me I don't think that can happen.

                                    Yes it can. Assuming he's otherwise healthy (some health problems can result in excess water retention); it means he was mildly dehydrated beforehand. Unfortunately that's not an uncommon problem for people either don't drink much or who drink lots of diuretics (eg caffeine, ethanol).

                                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                    Dan Neely wrote:

                                    ...or who drink lots of diuretics (eg caffeine, ethanol).

                                    My personal favourites.

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                                      If you do cardio training every day, plain water might not be the best choice. See this: http://www.brianmac.co.uk/drinks.htm[^]

                                      You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.

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                                      If you do cardio training every day for long periods of time you might want to buy life insurance because you're killing yourself.


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                                        If you do cardio training every day for long periods of time you might want to buy life insurance because you're killing yourself.


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                                        Pierre Leclercq
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                                        There is nothing wrong with exercising every day.

                                        You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.

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                                        • P Pierre Leclercq

                                          There is nothing wrong with exercising every day.

                                          You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.

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                                          No there is nothing wrong with exercising every day depending on your definition of exercise and whether you're a competitive athlete and under 30 years old (rest is just as important as exercise to the rest of us), however that's not what I said. :) There is something *very* wrong with long slow chronic cardio exercise on a regular basis. Anyone who is jogging or cycling or doing any exercise for long periods like an hour or more on a regular basis really needs to do their homework: it's dangerous and ineffective. Dangerous because every modern study shows it's wearing on the body in many different ways leading to seriously shortened lifespan at the worst and chronic pain and injury at the least. Ineffective because interval or high intensity short duration training is provably more effective at producing a fitter person and better athlete *even endurance athletes*.


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