Drinking lots of water
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Holly crap, is that true? It could be, because it’s sounds logical if the water is contaminated and I suppose after some time your body gets used with it and you are not even drunk. I remember some interview with a Bulgarian physician who was explaining that it’s not true that the Asian people are lacking from some enzyme which is decomposing the alcohol. The truth is that the Europeans have one extra enzyme because of thousand years drinking.
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
I remember some interview with a Bulgarian physician who was explaining that it’s not true that the Asian people are lacking from some enzyme which is decomposing the alcohol. The truth is that the Europeans have one extra enzyme because of thousand years drinking.
I'd like a peer reviewed citation before giving any credit to that. If the gene was added to the western European population we wouldn't just be talking about Asians who can't handle their liquor; it would also include various indigenous groups who didn't invent brewing; but while I've read about much higher levels of Alcoholism among Native Americans and Australian Aborigines I've never heard about them getting drunk on 2 or 3 beers.
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Joe Woodbury wrote:
drinking about two liters is sufficient for most adults.
Depends on your size and how much you consume, I used to do cardio workout for 30 minutes everyday and lose almost half a liter water in the morning itself. Moreover, my dietitian told me that the max limit of daily intake of fluids is your weight in pounds/40, it comes exact 5 liters a day for me.
Either you're enormous or your dietitian is an idiot or tragically misinformed. 5 liters of water a day for a healthy individual who is not running marathons in the desert and is of average size is entering danger territory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication[^]
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Chris Maunder wrote:
It still hydrates.
And dehydrates almost as quickly. :-D
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
And dehydrates almost as quickly.
That's harder alcohol... however, you never buy beer... you only pay rent.... ;P
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Believe me it took real hard effort to increase my daily water intake, right now drinking 4 liters of cool clear water per day, no colas no sweetened drinks. Drinking lots and lots of water is undoubtedly good for health, but since human body is made of 70% fluid I am finding this increased intake of water actually put few extra pounds on me. Nevertheless, drink(only water), enjoy and stay safe :)
If you do cardio training every day, plain water might not be the best choice. See this: http://www.brianmac.co.uk/drinks.htm[^]
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Did you ever hear this one: A guy walks into a bar and orders three beers. He explained to the bartender that he had just moved from Wisconsin where he and his two buddies would have a drink every Friday. The two other beers were in memory of his buddies. One Friday he walks in and orders two beers instead of three! The bartender asks: why two? The man replies: "I've quit drinking" (Corny? sure it is) :-D
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Either you're enormous or your dietitian is an idiot or tragically misinformed. 5 liters of water a day for a healthy individual who is not running marathons in the desert and is of average size is entering danger territory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication[^]
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The water drinking myth has been around for so long that you will struggle to get anyone to believe otherwise... It's true that we need around 2L per day on average, but this inludes that which comes from food, not just water... Doesn't matter how many times this is pointed out, the myth continues...
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But it is true if you consider the amount of water he was talking about... 4 liters is nothing. Water toxicity is a hard level to reach, so you acting like it happens without much effort is a bit of a stretch. And athletes need at least half their body weight in ounces if they are going to sweat a lot. I drink more than 4 liters every day (more like 6 to 8 depending), and I feel better for it compared when to not drinking as much. It makes kidney and liver functions easier as well. Besides, most foods also have salt in them as a preservative, which gives you those electrolytes back anyway. So cherry picking one little fact without considering what else is going into your body is not really seeing the big picture. Point is, 4 liters of water a day won't hurt you at all, and in fact it'll be beneficial. Ok, maybe if you're a 20 pound midget that's too much, but for the average person I mean - especially an athlete.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
4 liters of water a day won't hurt you at all, and in fact it'll be beneficial.
By what strange pseudo scientific bizzaro world rules are you working? Beneficial? How? Show us the science?
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Very few people actually drink anywhere near as much water as doctors recommend.
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I do, but then very few people practically have a prescription form the DR dictating how much water they have to drink each day to help keep internal toxicity levels to a minimum because of all the chemicals I have to swallow :) for me, 64 oz minimum on regular days, add 16 more ounces on days, and the days in the next week after that, when I am taking my chemo pills.
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The Digital Worm wrote:
Drinking lots and lots of water is undoubtedly good for health,
Drinking lots and lots of water will kill you. Drinking excessive water can lead to serious electrolyte imbalances in your body. Since a person gets quite a bit of water from food, drinking about two liters is sufficient for most adults.
You are both right, depending on your definition of "lots and lots". 4 litres, which few people drink in a single day is OK. Twice that amount, especially if you don't relieve yourself, will probably kill you.
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Yes, that is true aparently. thousands of years of drinking beer at 2% has given us the ability to handle alcohol.
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fat_boy wrote:
thousands of years of drinking beer at 2% has given us the ability to handle alcohol.
Evidently, not DD though. :)
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d@nish wrote:
The Digital Worm wrote: intake of water actually put few extra pounds on me I don't think that can happen.
Yes it can. Assuming he's otherwise healthy (some health problems can result in excess water retention); it means he was mildly dehydrated beforehand. Unfortunately that's not an uncommon problem for people either don't drink much or who drink lots of diuretics (eg caffeine, ethanol).
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Dan Neely wrote:
...or who drink lots of diuretics (eg caffeine, ethanol).
My personal favourites.
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If you do cardio training every day, plain water might not be the best choice. See this: http://www.brianmac.co.uk/drinks.htm[^]
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If you do cardio training every day for long periods of time you might want to buy life insurance because you're killing yourself.
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There is nothing wrong with exercising every day.
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There is nothing wrong with exercising every day.
You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.
No there is nothing wrong with exercising every day depending on your definition of exercise and whether you're a competitive athlete and under 30 years old (rest is just as important as exercise to the rest of us), however that's not what I said. :) There is something *very* wrong with long slow chronic cardio exercise on a regular basis. Anyone who is jogging or cycling or doing any exercise for long periods like an hour or more on a regular basis really needs to do their homework: it's dangerous and ineffective. Dangerous because every modern study shows it's wearing on the body in many different ways leading to seriously shortened lifespan at the worst and chronic pain and injury at the least. Ineffective because interval or high intensity short duration training is provably more effective at producing a fitter person and better athlete *even endurance athletes*.
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Dan Neely wrote:
...or who drink lots of diuretics (eg caffeine, ethanol).
My personal favourites.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
All this talk about water is making me thirsty! I think I'll have another scotch...
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Dan Neely wrote:
...or who drink lots of diuretics (eg caffeine, ethanol).
My personal favourites.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Believe me it took real hard effort to increase my daily water intake, right now drinking 4 liters of cool clear water per day, no colas no sweetened drinks. Drinking lots and lots of water is undoubtedly good for health, but since human body is made of 70% fluid I am finding this increased intake of water actually put few extra pounds on me. Nevertheless, drink(only water), enjoy and stay safe :)
I drink when I'm thirsty. I think my body knows how much water it needs more than any quack who's trying to make a name for himself does.
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fat_boy wrote:
thousands of years of drinking beer at 2% has given us the ability to handle alcohol.
Evidently, not DD though. :)
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I try to refrain from eating and drinking water together this dilutes digestive acids, slow down metabolism and in result you may actually put extra flab.
The Digital Worm wrote:
dilutes digestive acids, slow down metabolism and in result you may actually put extra flab
Any proof of that conjecture?
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d@nish wrote:
The Digital Worm wrote: intake of water actually put few extra pounds on me I don't think that can happen.
Yes it can. Assuming he's otherwise healthy (some health problems can result in excess water retention); it means he was mildly dehydrated beforehand. Unfortunately that's not an uncommon problem for people either don't drink much or who drink lots of diuretics (eg caffeine, ethanol).
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news flash: coffee isn't diuretic: Contrary to popular belief, caffeine does not act as a diuretic when consumed in moderation, and does not lead to dehydration or to a water-electrolyte imbalance; current evidence suggests that caffeinated beverages contribute to the body's daily fluid requirements no differently from pure water. [citation needed?[^]] I love it when (semi-)scientific "proven facts" turn out to be wrong either because the mechanism wasn't completely understood, extrapolated from a similar mechanism, or someone simply botched up. The wooshing sound of progress :)
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