Do sheep dream of, well, other sheep?
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In the quest for the Truly Bizzare Yet Thought Provoking I present: Homosexuality is biological, suggests gay sheep study [^] Now I know I can with enough time and dedication prove that salt is actually sugar, but still, the results are interesting. Especially what with all the moral* discussions of late and the always present homophobic "oh it is not natural" attitudes around :) What I find odd is that so far only sheep and humans have shown expressly gay tendencies. What on earth does that say? * Reading up on the definition of moral I found that morals are very much linked to sexual matters. i.e. that when you talk about morals, sexual perversion is top of the list in relevance
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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In the quest for the Truly Bizzare Yet Thought Provoking I present: Homosexuality is biological, suggests gay sheep study [^] Now I know I can with enough time and dedication prove that salt is actually sugar, but still, the results are interesting. Especially what with all the moral* discussions of late and the always present homophobic "oh it is not natural" attitudes around :) What I find odd is that so far only sheep and humans have shown expressly gay tendencies. What on earth does that say? * Reading up on the definition of moral I found that morals are very much linked to sexual matters. i.e. that when you talk about morals, sexual perversion is top of the list in relevance
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: What on earth does that say? That the New Zealanders are on to something ? Paul Watson wrote: the always present homophobic "oh it is not natural" attitudes around I don't think it's that black and white. The desire to molest children appears to occur 'naturally' in some people. I am not drawing a parallel, and I personally have no trouble with people being gay, goodness knows it's not their choice, but with that caveat, it seems to me that the 'it occurs naturally' argument really has little weight. Comparing animal to human sexual behaviour is often the same as saying 'why don't we all just screw each other and live in a pack, not in a family unit', while that is not true of many animals, I am certain it is true of sheep. Paul Watson wrote: Reading up on the definition of moral I found that morals are very much linked to sexual matters. i.e. that when you talk about morals, sexual perversion is top of the list in relevanc Isn't it funny, that's what it always ends up meaning, yet the word 'moral' surely just is linked to what is right and good, and what is not. For example, if society allows euthanasia is surely a moral decision that has nothing to do with sex. And any idiot who feels the need to try and establish if homosexuality is biological in the year 2002 probably had a grant and needed something to spend it on, IMO. The article seems to confirm what I have read in the past - males get three shots of testosterone in the womb, and females do not. Typically gay men missed out on some, and gay women got some by mistake. It's a fascinating theory, IMO, although it does not explain the very butch heterosexual women in the world, of which I know a couple. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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In the quest for the Truly Bizzare Yet Thought Provoking I present: Homosexuality is biological, suggests gay sheep study [^] Now I know I can with enough time and dedication prove that salt is actually sugar, but still, the results are interesting. Especially what with all the moral* discussions of late and the always present homophobic "oh it is not natural" attitudes around :) What I find odd is that so far only sheep and humans have shown expressly gay tendencies. What on earth does that say? * Reading up on the definition of moral I found that morals are very much linked to sexual matters. i.e. that when you talk about morals, sexual perversion is top of the list in relevance
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: What on earth does that say? It says that Wales is the most homosexual country in the world. :-D I have been here a year and this is probably the best signature I've ever had.
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In the quest for the Truly Bizzare Yet Thought Provoking I present: Homosexuality is biological, suggests gay sheep study [^] Now I know I can with enough time and dedication prove that salt is actually sugar, but still, the results are interesting. Especially what with all the moral* discussions of late and the always present homophobic "oh it is not natural" attitudes around :) What I find odd is that so far only sheep and humans have shown expressly gay tendencies. What on earth does that say? * Reading up on the definition of moral I found that morals are very much linked to sexual matters. i.e. that when you talk about morals, sexual perversion is top of the list in relevance
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonOur tax dollars at work. Several other examples of species that expresses same-sex tendencies are lawyers, politicians, and CEO's. :suss: Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Paul Watson wrote: What on earth does that say? It says that Wales is the most homosexual country in the world. :-D I have been here a year and this is probably the best signature I've ever had.
Simon Walton wrote: Wales Hilarious how different people accuse different countries of being the World Sheep Shagging trophy holders. Most South Africans call Aussies or Kiwis the king of sheep shaggers. But in the UK it seems Wales is the culprit.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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Our tax dollars at work. Several other examples of species that expresses same-sex tendencies are lawyers, politicians, and CEO's. :suss: Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
(sorry for the vulgar language kids, but it only comes out right if I say it this way) Marc Clifton wrote: Several other examples of species that expresses same-sex tendencies are lawyers, politicians, and CEO's. Naaah, lawyers, politicians and CEO's don't fuck each other. They fuck us, the common man. :rolleyes: Marc Clifton wrote: Our tax dollars at work Ain't it grand!
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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Simon Walton wrote: Wales Hilarious how different people accuse different countries of being the World Sheep Shagging trophy holders. Most South Africans call Aussies or Kiwis the king of sheep shaggers. But in the UK it seems Wales is the culprit.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: Hilarious how different people accuse different countries of being the World Sheep Shagging trophy holders Just out of curiousity, where is Mr Walton from? His bio lists UK, of which Wales is certainly a part... :~ Shog9 ------
The Army's on Ecstasy, so they say - I read all about it in USA Today. They stepped up urine testing to make it go away, 'cause it's hard to kill the enemy on ol' MDMA...- Oysterhead
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Paul Watson wrote: Hilarious how different people accuse different countries of being the World Sheep Shagging trophy holders Just out of curiousity, where is Mr Walton from? His bio lists UK, of which Wales is certainly a part... :~ Shog9 ------
The Army's on Ecstasy, so they say - I read all about it in USA Today. They stepped up urine testing to make it go away, 'cause it's hard to kill the enemy on ol' MDMA...- Oysterhead
Shog9 wrote: Just out of curiousity, where is Mr Walton from? His bio lists UK, of which Wales is certainly a part... Sorry, can't help you there mate. I get confused between SimonS and Simon Walton. I cannot remember which is the South African and which is the... well wherever he is from. Walton though is definitley the one with the sheep obsession. No offense meant to them, I am just bad with names period.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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Paul Watson wrote: Hilarious how different people accuse different countries of being the World Sheep Shagging trophy holders Just out of curiousity, where is Mr Walton from? His bio lists UK, of which Wales is certainly a part... :~ Shog9 ------
The Army's on Ecstasy, so they say - I read all about it in USA Today. They stepped up urine testing to make it go away, 'cause it's hard to kill the enemy on ol' MDMA...- Oysterhead
Shog9 wrote: Just out of curiousity, where is Mr Walton from? His bio lists UK, of which Wales is certainly a part... Wait, scrap what I said earlier. I just checked through my email history and figured it out: Simon Walton is the brit, SimonS is the South African. Though invariably by midday tomorrow I will have forgotten again and will have to look it up again. :rolleyes:
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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In the quest for the Truly Bizzare Yet Thought Provoking I present: Homosexuality is biological, suggests gay sheep study [^] Now I know I can with enough time and dedication prove that salt is actually sugar, but still, the results are interesting. Especially what with all the moral* discussions of late and the always present homophobic "oh it is not natural" attitudes around :) What I find odd is that so far only sheep and humans have shown expressly gay tendencies. What on earth does that say? * Reading up on the definition of moral I found that morals are very much linked to sexual matters. i.e. that when you talk about morals, sexual perversion is top of the list in relevance
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: Now I know I can with enough time and dedication prove that salt is actually sugar, but still, the results are interesting.
Now i know, with enough time and money to throw around, i can come up with whatever conclusions i want to see. But still, it's fun to watch the pretty fireworks when they see the light of day...Paul Watson wrote: and the always present homophobic "oh it is not natural" attitudes around Which was always a brain-dead argument, seeing as either we are part of nature and thus everything we do and produce is natural, or we are not and shouldn't be concerning ourselves with it anyway. If animals doing it is justification enough for an activity, then murder, rape, cannibalism, and licking one's self clean would all be socially acceptable. :rolleyes: Shog9 ------The Army's on Ecstasy, so they say - I read all about it in USA Today. They stepped up urine testing to make it go away, 'cause it's hard to kill the enemy on ol' MDMA...- Oysterhead
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In the quest for the Truly Bizzare Yet Thought Provoking I present: Homosexuality is biological, suggests gay sheep study [^] Now I know I can with enough time and dedication prove that salt is actually sugar, but still, the results are interesting. Especially what with all the moral* discussions of late and the always present homophobic "oh it is not natural" attitudes around :) What I find odd is that so far only sheep and humans have shown expressly gay tendencies. What on earth does that say? * Reading up on the definition of moral I found that morals are very much linked to sexual matters. i.e. that when you talk about morals, sexual perversion is top of the list in relevance
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: What I find odd is that so far only sheep and humans have shown expressly gay tendencies. What on earth does that say? it says you haven't looked at chimps, bonobos, cats or dogs. :) [edit]oh exclusively gay. yeah that's different than just promiscuously gay, i guess[edit] -c
“losinger is a colorizing text edit control” -- googlism
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Paul Watson wrote: What I find odd is that so far only sheep and humans have shown expressly gay tendencies. What on earth does that say? it says you haven't looked at chimps, bonobos, cats or dogs. :) [edit]oh exclusively gay. yeah that's different than just promiscuously gay, i guess[edit] -c
“losinger is a colorizing text edit control” -- googlism
Chris Losinger wrote: oh exclusively gay. yeah that's different than just promiscuously gay, i guess LOL! When I first read the article I also thought "but hey, my friends dog was always trying to hump the other male dog." Then I re-read the exlusively gay bit. Chris Losinger wrote: “losinger is a colorizing text edit control” -- googlism Man, that googlism thing is popular. Even Zeldman is in on the act.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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(sorry for the vulgar language kids, but it only comes out right if I say it this way) Marc Clifton wrote: Several other examples of species that expresses same-sex tendencies are lawyers, politicians, and CEO's. Naaah, lawyers, politicians and CEO's don't fuck each other. They fuck us, the common man. :rolleyes: Marc Clifton wrote: Our tax dollars at work Ain't it grand!
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonNaaah, lawyers, politicians and CEO's don't f*** each other. They f*** us, the common man. Too true, but my reasoning was thus (not for the faint of heart): they wouldn't be so successful at f***ing over the common man if they didn't forn*cate with themselves first! :cool: Marc P.S. Am I pushing the envelope on the soapbox? Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Naaah, lawyers, politicians and CEO's don't f*** each other. They f*** us, the common man. Too true, but my reasoning was thus (not for the faint of heart): they wouldn't be so successful at f***ing over the common man if they didn't forn*cate with themselves first! :cool: Marc P.S. Am I pushing the envelope on the soapbox? Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Marc Clifton wrote: they wouldn't be so successful at f***ing over the common man if they didn't forn*cate with themselves first! :laugh: Even truer. Marc Clifton wrote: P.S. Am I pushing the envelope on the soapbox? I am sure you will be told if you are... but I don't think so :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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The question is, why did someone want to know if a sheep was gay ? :confused: Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Well I am female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson
Trollslayer wrote: The question is, why did someone want to know if a sheep was gay ? Same reason people put teddy bears in bondage gear... because they can. ;)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson -
In the quest for the Truly Bizzare Yet Thought Provoking I present: Homosexuality is biological, suggests gay sheep study [^] Now I know I can with enough time and dedication prove that salt is actually sugar, but still, the results are interesting. Especially what with all the moral* discussions of late and the always present homophobic "oh it is not natural" attitudes around :) What I find odd is that so far only sheep and humans have shown expressly gay tendencies. What on earth does that say? * Reading up on the definition of moral I found that morals are very much linked to sexual matters. i.e. that when you talk about morals, sexual perversion is top of the list in relevance
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson -
In the quest for the Truly Bizzare Yet Thought Provoking I present: Homosexuality is biological, suggests gay sheep study [^] Now I know I can with enough time and dedication prove that salt is actually sugar, but still, the results are interesting. Especially what with all the moral* discussions of late and the always present homophobic "oh it is not natural" attitudes around :) What I find odd is that so far only sheep and humans have shown expressly gay tendencies. What on earth does that say? * Reading up on the definition of moral I found that morals are very much linked to sexual matters. i.e. that when you talk about morals, sexual perversion is top of the list in relevance
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonAnd in answer to the question, if they are electric sheep, they dream of androids. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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And in answer to the question, if they are electric sheep, they dream of androids. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Really? Cool! There's another short story i can skip... :) Shog9 ------
The Army's on Ecstasy, so they say - I read all about it in USA Today. They stepped up urine testing to make it go away, 'cause it's hard to kill the enemy on ol' MDMA...- Oysterhead
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Paul Watson wrote: Now I know I can with enough time and dedication prove that salt is actually sugar, but still, the results are interesting.
Now i know, with enough time and money to throw around, i can come up with whatever conclusions i want to see. But still, it's fun to watch the pretty fireworks when they see the light of day...Paul Watson wrote: and the always present homophobic "oh it is not natural" attitudes around Which was always a brain-dead argument, seeing as either we are part of nature and thus everything we do and produce is natural, or we are not and shouldn't be concerning ourselves with it anyway. If animals doing it is justification enough for an activity, then murder, rape, cannibalism, and licking one's self clean would all be socially acceptable. :rolleyes: Shog9 ------The Army's on Ecstasy, so they say - I read all about it in USA Today. They stepped up urine testing to make it go away, 'cause it's hard to kill the enemy on ol' MDMA...- Oysterhead
Shog9 wrote: licking one's self clean would... be socially acceptable. It's not?:confused: "When in danger, fear, or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!" - Lorelei and Lapis Lazuli Long
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Shog9 wrote: licking one's self clean would... be socially acceptable. It's not?:confused: "When in danger, fear, or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!" - Lorelei and Lapis Lazuli Long
Roger Wright wrote: It's not? I suppose it depends where you lick... (BTW, love your sig) Shog9 ------
The Army's on Ecstasy, so they say - I read all about it in USA Today. They stepped up urine testing to make it go away, 'cause it's hard to kill the enemy on ol' MDMA...- Oysterhead