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  • C Christian Graus

    Awesome post - well worth my five.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    Thanks. Topics like these tend to really annoy me, to the extent I sometimes have to calm down and think about what I'm writing. The problem I have with viewpoints like the original poster's is that a lot of teenagers who I've met think that most adults hold them. At best, that's breeding resentment between generations; at worst, it's reader-sanctioned ageism. If any newspaper published a steady stream of articles about how the elderly were acting as parasites on the NHS, there'd be an uproar - and rightly so. It would appear though, that it's quite all right for similarly derogatory articles to be published regarding teenagers.

    OSDev :)

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      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

      I read the Telegraph myself.

      You know Morse code? ;) ;P

      WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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        Thanks. Topics like these tend to really annoy me, to the extent I sometimes have to calm down and think about what I'm writing. The problem I have with viewpoints like the original poster's is that a lot of teenagers who I've met think that most adults hold them. At best, that's breeding resentment between generations; at worst, it's reader-sanctioned ageism. If any newspaper published a steady stream of articles about how the elderly were acting as parasites on the NHS, there'd be an uproar - and rightly so. It would appear though, that it's quite all right for similarly derogatory articles to be published regarding teenagers.

        OSDev :)

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        0x3c0 wrote:

        If any newspaper published a steady stream of articles about how the elderly were acting as parasites on the NHS

        That's because most of the readership aim to achieve this target.

        0x3c0 wrote:

        It would appear though, that it's quite all right for similarly derogatory articles to be published regarding teenagers.

        That's because most of the readership are already past this target.

        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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        • A AspDotNetDev

          Even teens like yourself make mistakes every once in a while.

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          The odd thing. When I modified the post, it linked back to the post I thought I'd replied against. I suspect forum links shenanigans.

          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

          As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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            -.-- . ... .. -.. ---

            "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

            As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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            WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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              WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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              .. -.. .. -.. .. -. -.. . . -.. .-- . .-.. .-.. .--. .-.. .- -.-- . -..

              "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

              As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                The odd thing. When I modified the post, it linked back to the post I thought I'd replied against. I suspect forum links shenanigans.

                "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                Interesting. Sounds like bug report time!

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                  Interesting. Sounds like bug report time!

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                  Reported.

                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                  As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    A mantra that I hear from several people of my own age, "why don't they do something productive? When I was their age, I didn't hang around on street corners. Why, I was actively involved in sports and the local church and rescuing kittens from trees and helping little old ladies to cross the street whether they wanted to or not." What you never hear is "why, when I was a teenager I spent most of my time trying to chat up girls and being too scared to speak to them if they looked at me, and hanging around at the park until late because we were bored and had nothing to do."

                    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                    hanging around at the park until late because we were bored and had nothing to do

                    I would never have done such a thing as a teenager! I went to the pub to be bored ...

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                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                      It's not so different from how every developer of Indian origin is assumed to be a doofus who uses rude ungrammatical text-speak.

                      Well they are aren't they? Only kidding - I know several talented Indian programmers, as well as several not so talented ones. Equally, for every talented English programmer I know, I know 5 or 6 morons of the highest order. All generalisations are counter productive.

                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                      who wants to read that in the subway?

                      I wouldn't know - I read the Telegraph myself.

                      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      All generalisations are counter productive.

                      Really? Are you sure? I thought that one... Oh, never mind. :laugh: :laugh:

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                        code_wiz wrote:

                        our British teenagers are all hopeless - they seem to be more happy to be thugs and criminals

                        I'm a male, British teenager. According to the Daily Mail, I should have fifty children, all by different girlfriends. I should apparently have every STD known to the human race, and be actively spreading it around. I should be out drinking every night, dealing drugs to my parents and friends, and swearing at every other person as I break into their houses and take their heirlooms back to my council house which I got from my unemployment benefits. I'm not, none of my friends are, and I hope that tells you everything you need to know about the Daily Mail's view of teenagers.

                        code_wiz wrote:

                        not education or civilisation! Pathetic!

                        And yet for all the faults of a minority of my age group, you're the one tarring nearly a quarter of the population of the United Kingdom with the same brush. Perhaps it's time for you to re-evalute your perspective on who the pathetic ones are here.

                        OSDev :)

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                        Well said, and better written than the Mail article.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Thanks. Topics like these tend to really annoy me, to the extent I sometimes have to calm down and think about what I'm writing. The problem I have with viewpoints like the original poster's is that a lot of teenagers who I've met think that most adults hold them. At best, that's breeding resentment between generations; at worst, it's reader-sanctioned ageism. If any newspaper published a steady stream of articles about how the elderly were acting as parasites on the NHS, there'd be an uproar - and rightly so. It would appear though, that it's quite all right for similarly derogatory articles to be published regarding teenagers.

                          OSDev :)

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                          Funny how it's always the right wing that finds sectors of society to blame for everything, isn't it? During the Thatcher years, the great evils in society were the monsters who dared to be members of trade unions, and single parents. Making pariahs of the former has left the UK without any industry worth speaking of (but those who only shuffle money around are richer than ever), and the children of the latter are now of voting age, but obviously have no memories of how they were treated by the right wing. The trouble is that if you speak out against the way entire sectors of society are mistreated/misrepresented, you're immediately classified as socialist or communist -- and they're the biggest pariahs of all.

                          Keep the proles occupied with invective, and scoop up as much of their money as you can

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                            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                            It's not so different from how every developer of Indian origin is assumed to be a doofus who uses rude ungrammatical text-speak.

                            Well they are aren't they? Only kidding - I know several talented Indian programmers, as well as several not so talented ones. Equally, for every talented English programmer I know, I know 5 or 6 morons of the highest order. All generalisations are counter productive.

                            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                            who wants to read that in the subway?

                            I wouldn't know - I read the Telegraph myself.

                            "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                            As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                            My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                            All generalisations are counter productive.

                            Especially that one.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              Thanks. Topics like these tend to really annoy me, to the extent I sometimes have to calm down and think about what I'm writing. The problem I have with viewpoints like the original poster's is that a lot of teenagers who I've met think that most adults hold them. At best, that's breeding resentment between generations; at worst, it's reader-sanctioned ageism. If any newspaper published a steady stream of articles about how the elderly were acting as parasites on the NHS, there'd be an uproar - and rightly so. It would appear though, that it's quite all right for similarly derogatory articles to be published regarding teenagers.

                              OSDev :)

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                              You are absolutely right in your comments, and well done for posting them. These accusations are no more true now than they were when either my children or indeed I (40+ years ago) were teenagers.

                              It's time for a new signature.

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                                code_wiz wrote:

                                our British teenagers are all hopeless - they seem to be more happy to be thugs and criminals

                                I'm a male, British teenager. According to the Daily Mail, I should have fifty children, all by different girlfriends. I should apparently have every STD known to the human race, and be actively spreading it around. I should be out drinking every night, dealing drugs to my parents and friends, and swearing at every other person as I break into their houses and take their heirlooms back to my council house which I got from my unemployment benefits. I'm not, none of my friends are, and I hope that tells you everything you need to know about the Daily Mail's view of teenagers.

                                code_wiz wrote:

                                not education or civilisation! Pathetic!

                                And yet for all the faults of a minority of my age group, you're the one tarring nearly a quarter of the population of the United Kingdom with the same brush. Perhaps it's time for you to re-evalute your perspective on who the pathetic ones are here.

                                OSDev :)

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                                Well, when I was a teenager we used to hang around drinking and mindlessly vandalising things. And so were my friends. ;P

                                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                  http://uk.yahoo.com/_ylt=AnI3Sp5IyME_0uf3GeLrhoA4hJp4/SIG=14qgti7oa/EXP=1281029140/**http%3A//www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300270/Baby-thrown-path-double-decker-bus-teenage-girl-thugs.html%3FITO=1708%26referrer=yahoo[^] We know of British blokes thugs, and now we hear about British girl thugs! No wonder we need talent from outside UK, since our British teenagers are all hopeless - they seem to be more happy to be thugs and criminals, and maybe X-factor kind of stuff, but not education or civilisation! Pathetic!!!!!!!!

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                                  :-\

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