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  • D Dalek Dave

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    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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    well I certainly do those, but not neccessary in that order, but Having no reference I will bow to your beliefs and start worrying that iam am abnormal:~

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      1: Find a magic lamp. 2: Rub it. 3: When the genie appears, ask him for the estimate. 4: Double it. and you'll still be wrong... :laugh: In reality there are 2 major parts to a time estimate: the number of man hours required to complete a given task and the actual time that those man hours will be spread across given that people get sick, have holidays, don't turn up, chat, skive off, etc, etc. So an estimate of 16 man hours might take a week to complete even though it's only 2 man days.

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      Russell Jones
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      And the ever present issue of staff being given far more urgent things to do. I've lost count of the times that someone has asked why something isn't done even though the developer said it would only take 5 days for the developer to turn round and point out that he'd so far only managed to spend 1/2 a day working on the project. If you quote 5 days on a monday morning make sure they know it's 5 days of work and not to expect it complete on friday afternoon if there are going to be team meetings / bug investigations for current products etc involved. Make sure people know what they are getting too. When you say finished to you mean it'll be tested, packaged in a setup file with CD isos prepared or do you mean compiled and ready to run on a developers machine?

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      • F Faddel

        Hello everybody, What are the steps and skills required to estimate the cost of a project or some programming task, I don't want 100% exact estimate, but I want some indicator for the time needed, and for the progress, my collueage at work doesn't believe in Estimates, so he prefers to not do estimation at all, (he has 3 years experience, while I have only about 1 year experience, ) and becuase of this we can never give boss an estimate to our projects, which I believe not to be good, so experienced developer what can I do to do good estimation for my work?? Thanks so much

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        Lost User
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        You need to know: 1) The time taken per k or meg of quality finished code in hours. 2) The cost per PRODUCTIVE man hour of your company. (Take all the costs for the whole year and divide it up into 40 hour week PRODUCTIVE man hours). You will probably get to around $120 per hour say. 3) The size of the code the product will need. (And thats the hard bit) You can base #3 on, GUI components, complexity, unknowns (learning curve costs), or competitors products. Multiple all these together and add profit of say 30%.

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        • F Faddel

          Hello everybody, What are the steps and skills required to estimate the cost of a project or some programming task, I don't want 100% exact estimate, but I want some indicator for the time needed, and for the progress, my collueage at work doesn't believe in Estimates, so he prefers to not do estimation at all, (he has 3 years experience, while I have only about 1 year experience, ) and becuase of this we can never give boss an estimate to our projects, which I believe not to be good, so experienced developer what can I do to do good estimation for my work?? Thanks so much

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          Entry level developers are not really expected to have good estimation skills so I can see why your colleague doesn't do them. Over time you will both learn what it takes. Sometimes it is all experience; sometimes a proof-of-concept is required and in all cases your team lead adds 30% to your estimate and the PM adds 30% to the team leads estimate. That way you only slightly go over.

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          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

            Entry level developers are not really expected to have good estimation skills so I can see why your colleague doesn't do them. Over time you will both learn what it takes. Sometimes it is all experience; sometimes a proof-of-concept is required and in all cases your team lead adds 30% to your estimate and the PM adds 30% to the team leads estimate. That way you only slightly go over.

            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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            Faddel
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            Thanks everybody, I got a lot of important ideas from you, thanks for your help!! :) :) :cool:

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