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  • C Chris Maunder

    I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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    Christopher Duncan
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    I just checked the calendar to see if it was April 1st. I'm really having a hard time believing anything you said. I'm a Windows guy, and as we've been told over and over again, Apple stuff Just Works. Clearly, you're holding it wrong. I'm in the process of putting my Blackberry to one side for testing purposes and getting an actual smart phone. Android won out for a few reasons. First, while I love Steve Jobs as a geek hero, I detest Apple and all that their draconian little world stands for. Even if they do make insanely cool stuff. Add to that the fact that I can't swap my SIM at will from the Blackberry or an Android. Apple uses a mini SIM. They truly are the American Express of the geek world. I'll bite the philosophical bullet to buy an iPod Touch just so I have an Apple device to test my web site and video stuff on. And I might even like it. But I'll never admit that in public. :)

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    • C Chris Maunder

      I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      Nish Nishant
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      What I don't like about my iPhone 3G (not the 3Gs) is how slow it becomes after a week of usage. At that point it needs a reboot to get back to normal speed. :thumbsdown:

      Regards, Nish


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      • C Chris Maunder

        I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        Maximilien
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        Not my experience. I rarely have issues with my iPhone or MacBook (and older PowerBook). Maybe because I'm not the head of an empire like CP ...

        Watched code never compiles.

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          What I don't like about my iPhone 3G (not the 3Gs) is how slow it becomes after a week of usage. At that point it needs a reboot to get back to normal speed. :thumbsdown:

          Regards, Nish


          Blog: blog.voidnish.com


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          AspDotNetDev
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          It takes a whole week for yours to become slow? There must be something wrong... your iPhone is underperforming. My iPhone 3G only takes 1 day (2 tops) to require a reboot.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            Roger Wright
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            When did Microsoft buy Apple? :wtf:

            Will Rogers never met me.

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            • A AspDotNetDev

              It takes a whole week for yours to become slow? There must be something wrong... your iPhone is underperforming. My iPhone 3G only takes 1 day (2 tops) to require a reboot.

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              Nish Nishant
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              You probably have the 3Gs then.

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              • M Maximilien

                Not my experience. I rarely have issues with my iPhone or MacBook (and older PowerBook). Maybe because I'm not the head of an empire like CP ...

                Watched code never compiles.

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                Maximilien wrote:

                I rarely have issues with my iPhone

                Are you taking full advantage of its features? For example, do you have 100 apps installed and use at least 10 of them regularly (email, todo list, maps, music, shazam, clock, weather, calendar, phone, messaging, camera, photos, Safari)? I think that's why I have problems so often... it can't seem to keep up with my usage (e.g., apps are retained in memory and don't leave room for others to launch).

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  You probably have the 3Gs then.

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                  AspDotNetDev
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                  Nope, 3G. I expect the 4G would have even better performance... might require a reboot every hour. :)

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                    When did Microsoft buy Apple? :wtf:

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    It's true, I'm afraid. Once Apple had to support more than 10 in-house applications, it became apparent that stability really is a hard problem to tackle.

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                      Maximilien wrote:

                      I rarely have issues with my iPhone

                      Are you taking full advantage of its features? For example, do you have 100 apps installed and use at least 10 of them regularly (email, todo list, maps, music, shazam, clock, weather, calendar, phone, messaging, camera, photos, Safari)? I think that's why I have problems so often... it can't seem to keep up with my usage (e.g., apps are retained in memory and don't leave room for others to launch).

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                      Maximilien
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                      Having tons of applications on the iPhone (and any other "intelligent" phone) is plain and simple stupid; there seems to be a race to see who's moron enough to have the most application and prove the iPhone (and other phones) does not work as advertised I have maybe 12 applications that I use on a regular basis (out of maybe 30 downloaded, but not actually _on_ the phone); I do a lot of house-cleaning. Heck, even on my personal desktop I only have has less than 20 applications installed at one time since I owned a computer; and use 3, 4 on a regular basis (excluding browsers, email clients, ... )

                      Watched code never compiles.

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                        When did Microsoft buy Apple? :wtf:

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                        Christopher Duncan
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                        5!

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          Yusuf
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                          Have you come close to CG lately? ;P

                          Yusuf May I help you?

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                          • R Roger Wright

                            When did Microsoft buy Apple? :wtf:

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                            Shouldn't it be reverse Apple buying Microsoft :). Apple is much bigger company according to stock market valuation.

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              Chris Losinger
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                              iTunes is such a P.O.S. i have no doubt that they fnck up all the rest of their apps, too.

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                              • M Maximilien

                                Having tons of applications on the iPhone (and any other "intelligent" phone) is plain and simple stupid; there seems to be a race to see who's moron enough to have the most application and prove the iPhone (and other phones) does not work as advertised I have maybe 12 applications that I use on a regular basis (out of maybe 30 downloaded, but not actually _on_ the phone); I do a lot of house-cleaning. Heck, even on my personal desktop I only have has less than 20 applications installed at one time since I owned a computer; and use 3, 4 on a regular basis (excluding browsers, email clients, ... )

                                Watched code never compiles.

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                                AspDotNetDev
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                                Perhaps it's unnecessary to have that many apps installed, but I wouldn't call it stupid. Having an app installed shouldn't increase the runtime memory footprint of the apps that you actually run. And the new OS has the ability to nest apps in folders (e.g., a "Seldom Used" folder). I'm not going to be installing that, however, as I've heard it screws up the 3G. In any event, I too use about 12 apps regularly and the iPhone seems to choke on that.

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                                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                  Shouldn't it be reverse Apple buying Microsoft :). Apple is much bigger company according to stock market valuation.

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                                  rastaVnuce
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                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                  Apple is much bugger company

                                  Was that intentional? :laugh:

                                  We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!

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                                  • R rastaVnuce

                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                    Apple is much bugger company

                                    Was that intentional? :laugh:

                                    We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!

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                                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                    No! But it does not change anything :)

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                                    • C Christopher Duncan

                                      I just checked the calendar to see if it was April 1st. I'm really having a hard time believing anything you said. I'm a Windows guy, and as we've been told over and over again, Apple stuff Just Works. Clearly, you're holding it wrong. I'm in the process of putting my Blackberry to one side for testing purposes and getting an actual smart phone. Android won out for a few reasons. First, while I love Steve Jobs as a geek hero, I detest Apple and all that their draconian little world stands for. Even if they do make insanely cool stuff. Add to that the fact that I can't swap my SIM at will from the Blackberry or an Android. Apple uses a mini SIM. They truly are the American Express of the geek world. I'll bite the philosophical bullet to buy an iPod Touch just so I have an Apple device to test my web site and video stuff on. And I might even like it. But I'll never admit that in public. :)

                                      Christopher Duncan
                                      www.PracticalUSA.com
                                      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                      Copywriting Services

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                                      Steve Mayfield
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                                      we've been told over and over again, Apple stuff Just Works. Apple Motto: "It Just Works, (lower voice to a whisper) Except When it Doesn't" :-O

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        Stuart Dootson
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                                        Using Apple software on Windows? Yeah, it's not the best - probably because they're using an implementation of Cocoa layered on top of Windows. Apple software on OS X? On my iPhone? I have so few problems…I'm not going back to Windows… Your experience is obviously different…but you are called Chris…which is getting close to Christian…as in Graus :-D

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                                          Using Apple software on Windows? Yeah, it's not the best - probably because they're using an implementation of Cocoa layered on top of Windows. Apple software on OS X? On my iPhone? I have so few problems…I'm not going back to Windows… Your experience is obviously different…but you are called Chris…which is getting close to Christian…as in Graus :-D

                                          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

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                                          Chris Maunder
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                                          Nope - using Apple software on an iMac. I've tried so hard to be open minded about MacOS and unfortunately my cheap and nasty laptop with Win7 on it is more reliable for me and for the software I use.

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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