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  • R Roger Wright

    When did Microsoft buy Apple? :wtf:

    Will Rogers never met me.

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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    Shouldn't it be reverse Apple buying Microsoft :). Apple is much bigger company according to stock market valuation.

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      I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      Chris Losinger
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      iTunes is such a P.O.S. i have no doubt that they fnck up all the rest of their apps, too.

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      • M Maximilien

        Having tons of applications on the iPhone (and any other "intelligent" phone) is plain and simple stupid; there seems to be a race to see who's moron enough to have the most application and prove the iPhone (and other phones) does not work as advertised I have maybe 12 applications that I use on a regular basis (out of maybe 30 downloaded, but not actually _on_ the phone); I do a lot of house-cleaning. Heck, even on my personal desktop I only have has less than 20 applications installed at one time since I owned a computer; and use 3, 4 on a regular basis (excluding browsers, email clients, ... )

        Watched code never compiles.

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        AspDotNetDev
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        Perhaps it's unnecessary to have that many apps installed, but I wouldn't call it stupid. Having an app installed shouldn't increase the runtime memory footprint of the apps that you actually run. And the new OS has the ability to nest apps in folders (e.g., a "Seldom Used" folder). I'm not going to be installing that, however, as I've heard it screws up the 3G. In any event, I too use about 12 apps regularly and the iPhone seems to choke on that.

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          Shouldn't it be reverse Apple buying Microsoft :). Apple is much bigger company according to stock market valuation.

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          rastaVnuce
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          Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

          Apple is much bugger company

          Was that intentional? :laugh:

          We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!

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          • R rastaVnuce

            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

            Apple is much bugger company

            Was that intentional? :laugh:

            We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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            No! But it does not change anything :)

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            • C Christopher Duncan

              I just checked the calendar to see if it was April 1st. I'm really having a hard time believing anything you said. I'm a Windows guy, and as we've been told over and over again, Apple stuff Just Works. Clearly, you're holding it wrong. I'm in the process of putting my Blackberry to one side for testing purposes and getting an actual smart phone. Android won out for a few reasons. First, while I love Steve Jobs as a geek hero, I detest Apple and all that their draconian little world stands for. Even if they do make insanely cool stuff. Add to that the fact that I can't swap my SIM at will from the Blackberry or an Android. Apple uses a mini SIM. They truly are the American Express of the geek world. I'll bite the philosophical bullet to buy an iPod Touch just so I have an Apple device to test my web site and video stuff on. And I might even like it. But I'll never admit that in public. :)

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              Steve Mayfield
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              we've been told over and over again, Apple stuff Just Works. Apple Motto: "It Just Works, (lower voice to a whisper) Except When it Doesn't" :-O

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              • C Chris Maunder

                I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                Stuart Dootson
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                Using Apple software on Windows? Yeah, it's not the best - probably because they're using an implementation of Cocoa layered on top of Windows. Apple software on OS X? On my iPhone? I have so few problems…I'm not going back to Windows… Your experience is obviously different…but you are called Chris…which is getting close to Christian…as in Graus :-D

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                • S Stuart Dootson

                  Using Apple software on Windows? Yeah, it's not the best - probably because they're using an implementation of Cocoa layered on top of Windows. Apple software on OS X? On my iPhone? I have so few problems…I'm not going back to Windows… Your experience is obviously different…but you are called Chris…which is getting close to Christian…as in Graus :-D

                  Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

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                  Chris Maunder
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                  Nope - using Apple software on an iMac. I've tried so hard to be open minded about MacOS and unfortunately my cheap and nasty laptop with Win7 on it is more reliable for me and for the software I use.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    Nope - using Apple software on an iMac. I've tried so hard to be open minded about MacOS and unfortunately my cheap and nasty laptop with Win7 on it is more reliable for me and for the software I use.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                    Stuart Dootson
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                    Diametrically opposed experiences then…hey ho. That's the way things happen.

                    Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      Lysander Vibar
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                      Shoulda just jailbroke it like me. The guys at Cydia have their own PDF exploit fix, which is basically all 4.0.2 is anyway.

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Bizarrely, the only issue I've had with any Apple product, is that the Telstra wireless connection software crashes my Mac. Other than that, no bricks here. I run all the updates.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          What I don't like about my iPhone 3G (not the 3Gs) is how slow it becomes after a week of usage. At that point it needs a reboot to get back to normal speed. :thumbsdown:

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                          Christian Graus
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                          Do you run windows for a week without rebooting ?

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                            Do you run windows for a week without rebooting ?

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            Do you run windows for a week without rebooting ?

                            I've never had a Windows phone so I can't answer that. Unless you meant my desktop, if so yes - I never shut down my primary desktop except when an update forces me to. At night it just goes into hibernate mode. But again, I am really talking about a mobile OS here. And typically they are kept thin and nice so they can run for months before you have to reboot.

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              bryce
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                              Chris Maunder wrote:

                              I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads.

                              stop coding then Bryce

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                                Chris Maunder wrote:

                                I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads.

                                stop coding then Bryce

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                Quiet, Kiwi.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  Quiet, Kiwi.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  bryce
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                                  touch a raw pointer did we? bryce

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                                  • B bryce

                                    touch a raw pointer did we? bryce

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                                    Chris Maunder
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                                    Haven't seen a pointer in a looong time ;)

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      Haven't seen a pointer in a looong time ;)

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      bryce
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                                      that may be why your apple apps are shitehouse ;) bryce

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                                        that may be why your apple apps are shitehouse ;) bryce

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                                        Chris Maunder
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                                        Mate - I'm not the monkey writing the apps. I'm merely the upright simian trying to use the bloody things!

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          Mate - I'm not the monkey writing the apps. I'm merely the upright simian trying to use the bloody things!

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                          bryce
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                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          I'm merely the upright simian

                                          dont get ahead of yourself convict you're not that evolved - you're australian after all Bryce

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