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  • R rastaVnuce

    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

    Apple is much bugger company

    Was that intentional? :laugh:

    We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours!

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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    No! But it does not change anything :)

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    • C Christopher Duncan

      I just checked the calendar to see if it was April 1st. I'm really having a hard time believing anything you said. I'm a Windows guy, and as we've been told over and over again, Apple stuff Just Works. Clearly, you're holding it wrong. I'm in the process of putting my Blackberry to one side for testing purposes and getting an actual smart phone. Android won out for a few reasons. First, while I love Steve Jobs as a geek hero, I detest Apple and all that their draconian little world stands for. Even if they do make insanely cool stuff. Add to that the fact that I can't swap my SIM at will from the Blackberry or an Android. Apple uses a mini SIM. They truly are the American Express of the geek world. I'll bite the philosophical bullet to buy an iPod Touch just so I have an Apple device to test my web site and video stuff on. And I might even like it. But I'll never admit that in public. :)

      Christopher Duncan
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      Steve Mayfield
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      we've been told over and over again, Apple stuff Just Works. Apple Motto: "It Just Works, (lower voice to a whisper) Except When it Doesn't" :-O

      Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am

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      • C Chris Maunder

        I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        Stuart Dootson
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        Using Apple software on Windows? Yeah, it's not the best - probably because they're using an implementation of Cocoa layered on top of Windows. Apple software on OS X? On my iPhone? I have so few problems…I'm not going back to Windows… Your experience is obviously different…but you are called Chris…which is getting close to Christian…as in Graus :-D

        Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

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          Using Apple software on Windows? Yeah, it's not the best - probably because they're using an implementation of Cocoa layered on top of Windows. Apple software on OS X? On my iPhone? I have so few problems…I'm not going back to Windows… Your experience is obviously different…but you are called Chris…which is getting close to Christian…as in Graus :-D

          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

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          Chris Maunder
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          Nope - using Apple software on an iMac. I've tried so hard to be open minded about MacOS and unfortunately my cheap and nasty laptop with Win7 on it is more reliable for me and for the software I use.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          • C Chris Maunder

            Nope - using Apple software on an iMac. I've tried so hard to be open minded about MacOS and unfortunately my cheap and nasty laptop with Win7 on it is more reliable for me and for the software I use.

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            Stuart Dootson
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            Diametrically opposed experiences then…hey ho. That's the way things happen.

            Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

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            • C Chris Maunder

              I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Lysander Vibar
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              Shoulda just jailbroke it like me. The guys at Cydia have their own PDF exploit fix, which is basically all 4.0.2 is anyway.

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              • C Chris Maunder

                I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                Christian Graus
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                Bizarrely, the only issue I've had with any Apple product, is that the Telstra wireless connection software crashes my Mac. Other than that, no bricks here. I run all the updates.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  What I don't like about my iPhone 3G (not the 3Gs) is how slow it becomes after a week of usage. At that point it needs a reboot to get back to normal speed. :thumbsdown:

                  Regards, Nish


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                  Christian Graus
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                  Do you run windows for a week without rebooting ?

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    Do you run windows for a week without rebooting ?

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    Do you run windows for a week without rebooting ?

                    I've never had a Windows phone so I can't answer that. Unless you meant my desktop, if so yes - I never shut down my primary desktop except when an update forces me to. At night it just goes into hibernate mode. But again, I am really talking about a mobile OS here. And typically they are kept thin and nice so they can run for months before you have to reboot.

                    Regards, Nish


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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I have an iMac, an iPad and an iPhone. I detest the iMac, vaguely use the iPad and love the iPhone. What I cannot abide is the quality of the software. I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads. And the reason for this rant? Yet Another Update on the iPhone has just turned my phone into a brick. Halfway through the update to 4.0.2 the phone shows the "connect to iTunes" screen and shows a helpful "Unknown error" error. I've been slowly working through the help page on Apple ("restart your computer", "Troubles on XP" etc) but so far no luck. :mad:

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      bryce
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                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                      I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads.

                      stop coding then Bryce

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                      • B bryce

                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                        I get crashes, I get the pinwheel of doom, I get menus that are blank, apps that lock up, and constant, never ending updates for minor things that still involve hundreds of MB downloads.

                        stop coding then Bryce

                        MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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                        Chris Maunder
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                        Quiet, Kiwi.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          Quiet, Kiwi.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          bryce
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                          touch a raw pointer did we? bryce

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                            touch a raw pointer did we? bryce

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                            Chris Maunder
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                            Haven't seen a pointer in a looong time ;)

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              Haven't seen a pointer in a looong time ;)

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              bryce
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                              that may be why your apple apps are shitehouse ;) bryce

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                                that may be why your apple apps are shitehouse ;) bryce

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                                Chris Maunder
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                                Mate - I'm not the monkey writing the apps. I'm merely the upright simian trying to use the bloody things!

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  Mate - I'm not the monkey writing the apps. I'm merely the upright simian trying to use the bloody things!

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  bryce
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                                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                                  I'm merely the upright simian

                                  dont get ahead of yourself convict you're not that evolved - you're australian after all Bryce

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                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    I'm merely the upright simian

                                    dont get ahead of yourself convict you're not that evolved - you're australian after all Bryce

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                                    Lost User
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                                    bryce wrote:

                                    dont get ahead of yourself convict you're not that evolved - you're australian after all

                                    Fuck off Kiwi, you're still lower down the ladder than Maunder, at least he turns up to have the one beer and piss off, you don't arrive. If Kiwiland is so good why do we have more Kiwi's living here than New Zealand has?

                                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                      bryce wrote:

                                      dont get ahead of yourself convict you're not that evolved - you're australian after all

                                      Fuck off Kiwi, you're still lower down the ladder than Maunder, at least he turns up to have the one beer and piss off, you don't arrive. If Kiwiland is so good why do we have more Kiwi's living here than New Zealand has?

                                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                      bryce
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                                      Build a bridge and get over it you overweight mexican

                                      Michael Martin wrote:

                                      If Kiwiland is so good why do we have more Kiwi's living here than New Zealand has?

                                      Someone has to bring some culture to this place. Its sure as hell not the coachroaches in NSW. Bryce

                                      MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        Do you run windows for a week without rebooting ?

                                        I've never had a Windows phone so I can't answer that. Unless you meant my desktop, if so yes - I never shut down my primary desktop except when an update forces me to. At night it just goes into hibernate mode. But again, I am really talking about a mobile OS here. And typically they are kept thin and nice so they can run for months before you have to reboot.

                                        Regards, Nish


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                                        Mark_Wallace
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                                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                        At night it just goes into hibernate mode.

                                        I don't even do that much; I just leave them running and turn off the monitors. The only times I have problems are when either adobe or Java apps play up, because they almost invariably take the computer down with them (slowly and unrecoverably, like a cliff collapsing).

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        • M Maximilien

                                          Having tons of applications on the iPhone (and any other "intelligent" phone) is plain and simple stupid; there seems to be a race to see who's moron enough to have the most application and prove the iPhone (and other phones) does not work as advertised I have maybe 12 applications that I use on a regular basis (out of maybe 30 downloaded, but not actually _on_ the phone); I do a lot of house-cleaning. Heck, even on my personal desktop I only have has less than 20 applications installed at one time since I owned a computer; and use 3, 4 on a regular basis (excluding browsers, email clients, ... )

                                          Watched code never compiles.

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          Maximilien wrote:

                                          Having tons of applications on the iPhone plug-ins in a browser (and any other "intelligent" phone app) is plain and simple stupid; there seems to be a race to see who's moron enough to have the most application plug-ins and prove the iPhone that firefox (and other phones browsers) do not work as advertised

                                          I could get into this perspective thingy.

                                          Plug-ins for Opera run in their own processes, so they don't screw up the browser. IE & FF'll catch on sooner or later.

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