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  • V vjvjvjvj

    Hi, I am looking for your perspective on the following topic. Does one has to be a originally computer literate to be highly profecient in IT industry? Can a Machanical Engineer become as successful in IT industry as one with Masters in Computer Science? I have found many people highly profecient in IT who were not originaly with degrees in computer skills. They were hired in IT company or did a course in computer skills after they finished their degree and they developed their skills on way ahead. Does skills such as problem solving, aproach for a better design be better if you are with degree in IT? What are your thoughts? Regards Vijay

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    vjvjvjvj wrote:

    Does one has to be a originally computer literate to be highly profecient in IT industry?

    Not to start with, but it does help.

    vjvjvjvj wrote:

    Can a Machanical Engineer become as successful in IT industry as one with Masters in Computer Science?

    Yes, people who study disciplines that are mathematical and logical have a good chance at becoming successful IT people. I have a friend who teaches philosophy at a university in the UK, and a large number of her students end up in IT, they probably understand O-O better than most IT graduates as it directly relates to ancient Greek ideas of "forms". I don't think a degree in IT is valueless (especially if it is academically thorough), but it is possible to succeed without one.

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    Does skills such as problem solving, aproach for a better design be better if you are with degree in IT?

    No, but someone coming out of University with an IT degree is going to have a broader and deeper knowledge(depending on the person and the course :-)) than someone without at the outset. If you move on a few years, an Electrical Engineer working in IT can (and I have met people like this) be as good as their IT counterparts, they have just had a steeper learning curve. I've found that Ultimately IT people fall into two categories, those who "get it" and those who don't.

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    • V vjvjvjvj

      Hi, I am looking for your perspective on the following topic. Does one has to be a originally computer literate to be highly profecient in IT industry? Can a Machanical Engineer become as successful in IT industry as one with Masters in Computer Science? I have found many people highly profecient in IT who were not originaly with degrees in computer skills. They were hired in IT company or did a course in computer skills after they finished their degree and they developed their skills on way ahead. Does skills such as problem solving, aproach for a better design be better if you are with degree in IT? What are your thoughts? Regards Vijay

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      My thought is that this is a retarded question.

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      • N Niklas L

        Did your workload decrease or increase?

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        Niklas Lindquist wrote:

        Did your workload decrease or increase?

        Decrease if she was sat opposite him ;)

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          Did your workload decrease or increase?

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          We just make do with pen and paper and typewriters now.

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          • V vjvjvjvj

            Hi, I am looking for your perspective on the following topic. Does one has to be a originally computer literate to be highly profecient in IT industry? Can a Machanical Engineer become as successful in IT industry as one with Masters in Computer Science? I have found many people highly profecient in IT who were not originaly with degrees in computer skills. They were hired in IT company or did a course in computer skills after they finished their degree and they developed their skills on way ahead. Does skills such as problem solving, aproach for a better design be better if you are with degree in IT? What are your thoughts? Regards Vijay

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            Most "revered" people in IT industry were NOT from Computer Science background. Most were from Electrical/Electronics engineering or pure maths background (and that's how CS began). Many others were self made. That, to me, indicates that logic, problem solving etc are best found in people who have varied interests. Also, there is difference between a "coder", who knows language syntax and can fill in the UML boxes with code and an "engineer". Most people wrongly equate programming with Computer Science. They can't be any more off their mark. I have known many IT guys and girls with all kinds of degrees, even MS from USA universities, who are absolute dull heads. Degree is just a piece of paper whose content are not relevant beyond a few weeks after the ink dries. All you got to have is a talent with logic, numbers and an eye for detail.

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            • V vjvjvjvj

              Hi, I am looking for your perspective on the following topic. Does one has to be a originally computer literate to be highly profecient in IT industry? Can a Machanical Engineer become as successful in IT industry as one with Masters in Computer Science? I have found many people highly profecient in IT who were not originaly with degrees in computer skills. They were hired in IT company or did a course in computer skills after they finished their degree and they developed their skills on way ahead. Does skills such as problem solving, aproach for a better design be better if you are with degree in IT? What are your thoughts? Regards Vijay

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              My first IT job was working for a company where the IT department consisted of me and another bloke who had been there for years and written some of their systems himself. He had been a chef before that. My next job, and first as a programmer, was for a larger company where the IT director (himself a programmer) had a geography degree. The rest of the department had either failed degrees in various disciplines or had geography degrees. I initially studied geography at university too.

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              • L Lost User

                When it comes to IT you dont need experience or qualifications. I once hired somebody for an IT position that had no gcse's and didn't even know how to switch on a PC. She had a cracking pair of tits though.

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                pompeyboy3 wrote:

                She had a cracking pair of tits though.

                That's who you call a titular programmer.

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                • N Niklas L

                  Did your workload decrease or increase?

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                  Given that she sat in front of a wide screen, the workload would have increased resulting in sore neck and intercostals.

                  ...byte till it megahertz...

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                  • V vjvjvjvj

                    Hi, I am looking for your perspective on the following topic. Does one has to be a originally computer literate to be highly profecient in IT industry? Can a Machanical Engineer become as successful in IT industry as one with Masters in Computer Science? I have found many people highly profecient in IT who were not originaly with degrees in computer skills. They were hired in IT company or did a course in computer skills after they finished their degree and they developed their skills on way ahead. Does skills such as problem solving, aproach for a better design be better if you are with degree in IT? What are your thoughts? Regards Vijay

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                    I think many people with Masters in Computer Science are highly proficient in gardening. :rolleyes:

                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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                      I think many people with Masters in Computer Science are highly proficient in gardening. :rolleyes:

                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                      Yeah. With the trees, buckets, sandboxes and all.

                      ...byte till it megahertz...

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                        Yeah. With the trees, buckets, sandboxes and all.

                        ...byte till it megahertz...

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                        bleedingfingers wrote:

                        Yeah. With the trees, buckets, sandboxes, bleeding fingers and all.

                        FFY. :)

                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                        [My articles]

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                          bleedingfingers wrote:

                          Yeah. With the trees, buckets, sandboxes, bleeding fingers and all.

                          FFY. :)

                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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                          :thumbsup: :laugh:

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                          • CPalliniC CPallini

                            I think many people with Masters in Computer Science are highly proficient in gardening. :rolleyes:

                            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                            This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                            Masters in (Argi)cultural sciences? :)

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                              Masters in (Argi)cultural sciences? :)

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                              leppie wrote:

                              Masters in (Argil)cultural sciences?

                              Now, that's for crockery... :rolleyes:

                              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                              [My articles]

                              In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                              • V vjvjvjvj

                                Hi, I am looking for your perspective on the following topic. Does one has to be a originally computer literate to be highly profecient in IT industry? Can a Machanical Engineer become as successful in IT industry as one with Masters in Computer Science? I have found many people highly profecient in IT who were not originaly with degrees in computer skills. They were hired in IT company or did a course in computer skills after they finished their degree and they developed their skills on way ahead. Does skills such as problem solving, aproach for a better design be better if you are with degree in IT? What are your thoughts? Regards Vijay

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                                There are levels and levels of computer literacy. - Can you open and amend files using a mouse and keyboard? - Can you create graphics? - Can you install software and hardware? - Can you write scripts to automate what you do? - Can you create an application that fills a need? - Can you delve into the operating system, and make needed changes? - Can you update your CMoS? - Can you take a screwdriver and replace broken bits? - Can you read machine code? - Can you make full use of the remarkable CListCtrl? Decide what it is that you want to do, then learn how to do it. You will then be as computer literate as you need to be.

                                That makes three!

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                                • V vjvjvjvj

                                  Hi, I am looking for your perspective on the following topic. Does one has to be a originally computer literate to be highly profecient in IT industry? Can a Machanical Engineer become as successful in IT industry as one with Masters in Computer Science? I have found many people highly profecient in IT who were not originaly with degrees in computer skills. They were hired in IT company or did a course in computer skills after they finished their degree and they developed their skills on way ahead. Does skills such as problem solving, aproach for a better design be better if you are with degree in IT? What are your thoughts? Regards Vijay

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                                  It's certainly doable. Your degree is nothing more than a White Collar Union Card. It is neither a necessary nor a sufficient condition for being able to use your brain.

                                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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