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    Steve Maier
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    It looks like MonoTouch might actually be allowed now, or will be shortly with these new changes mentioned in this press release. http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html[^]

    Steve Maier

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      It looks like MonoTouch might actually be allowed now, or will be shortly with these new changes mentioned in this press release. http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html[^]

      Steve Maier

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      Montouch had no issues even before this proposed changes. But these changes may allow some other tools.

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        It looks like MonoTouch might actually be allowed now, or will be shortly with these new changes mentioned in this press release. http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html[^]

        Steve Maier

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        What I found interesting was the quote: "In addition, for the first time we are publishing the App Store Review Guidelines to help developers understand how we review submitted apps." Surely that would have been the first thing they should have done??

        "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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          It looks like MonoTouch might actually be allowed now, or will be shortly with these new changes mentioned in this press release. http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html[^]

          Steve Maier

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          Seems like the flash compiler is back, I wonder how much Adobe had to pay for that...

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            It looks like MonoTouch might actually be allowed now, or will be shortly with these new changes mentioned in this press release. http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html[^]

            Steve Maier

            modified on Thursday, September 9, 2010 5:15 PM

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              What I found interesting was the quote: "In addition, for the first time we are publishing the App Store Review Guidelines to help developers understand how we review submitted apps." Surely that would have been the first thing they should have done??

              "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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              1.21 Gigawatts wrote:

              "In addition, for the first time we are publishing the App Store Review Guidelines to help developers understand how we review submitted apps." Surely that would have been the first thing they should have done??

              You're new to following Apple, aren't you.


              He said, "Boy I'm just old and lonely, But thank you for your concern, Here's wishing you a Happy New Year." I wished him one back in return.

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                1.21 Gigawatts wrote:

                "In addition, for the first time we are publishing the App Store Review Guidelines to help developers understand how we review submitted apps." Surely that would have been the first thing they should have done??

                You're new to following Apple, aren't you.


                He said, "Boy I'm just old and lonely, But thank you for your concern, Here's wishing you a Happy New Year." I wished him one back in return.

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                Erm...yeah. Sheesh, I kinda feel like everyone is staring at me. :sigh:

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                  Montouch had no issues even before this proposed changes. But these changes may allow some other tools.

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                  Steve Maier
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                  Actually there was no official word given to the mono team if it was ok or not. The Appcelerator team was told by Apple that they were ok since they compiled from html and javascript. I know that I had updated my MT based apps in the store and submitted new ones even after they were not suppose to be allowed. You just never knew if Apple was going to reject them or not. At least with guidelines now it will help everyone.

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                    Erm...yeah. Sheesh, I kinda feel like everyone is staring at me. :sigh:

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                    There are stories online where an app was accepted perfectly fine but when in an update it was rejected for something that the original did as well. Nothing had changed with it but they were now rejecting because of it.

                    Steve Maier

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                      Montouch had no issues even before this proposed changes. But these changes may allow some other tools.

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                      In April this year Apple changed section 3.3.1 of the iPhone developer agreement:

                      3.3.1 — Applications may only use Documented APIs in the manner prescribed
                      by Apple and must not use or call any private APIs. Applications must be
                      originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or JavaScript
                      as executed by the
                      iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code written in C, C++, and Objective-C may
                      compile and directly link against the Documented APIs (e.g., Applications that
                      link to Documented APIs through an intermediary translation or compatibility
                      layer or tool are prohibited).

                      Technically I think this made MonoTouch against the rules, as code is originally written in C#.

                      Simon

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                        Erm...yeah. Sheesh, I kinda feel like everyone is staring at me. :sigh:

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                        Don't worry about it. The important thing to remember - Apple's too stylish to care about rules. The developer guideline probably reads like: "Wear a turtleneck sweater. Drink some latte Go to a fancy restaurant where they serve you tiny portions on square plates, sprinkle with a Jus, and charge you a fortune Change your name to Tarquin, Tristran, Emanista or Diamantia Remember that we're too stylish to care about you"

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                          There are stories online where an app was accepted perfectly fine but when in an update it was rejected for something that the original did as well. Nothing had changed with it but they were now rejecting because of it.

                          Steve Maier

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                          Woah. Glad I don't have anything to do with Apple then! :phew:

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                            Don't worry about it. The important thing to remember - Apple's too stylish to care about rules. The developer guideline probably reads like: "Wear a turtleneck sweater. Drink some latte Go to a fancy restaurant where they serve you tiny portions on square plates, sprinkle with a Jus, and charge you a fortune Change your name to Tarquin, Tristran, Emanista or Diamantia Remember that we're too stylish to care about you"

                            I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

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                            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                            "Wear a turtleneck sweater. Drink some latte Go to a fancy restaurant where they serve you tiny portions on square plates, sprinkle with a Jus, and charge you a fortune Change your name to Tarquin, Tristran, Emanista or Diamantia Remember that we're too stylish to care about you"

                            It all makes perfect sense now ;)

                            "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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                              What I found interesting was the quote: "In addition, for the first time we are publishing the App Store Review Guidelines to help developers understand how we review submitted apps." Surely that would have been the first thing they should have done??

                              "Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair

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                              Very strange, but expected from Apple. So before this, people were just supposed to guess?

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                                Very strange, but expected from Apple. So before this, people were just supposed to guess?

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                                Steve Maier
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                                You submitted an app and waited - sometimes a few days and sometimes a few weeks. Then if they rejected, they told you why it was rejected. Then you start all over again. It is not clear if the same person would then review what you put back in or not, but you started the wait again. There were a few guidelines listed in places like you could not use any of their icons or write an app that was the same as one of their apps. But it was like throwing it over the wall and seeing if it came back or not.

                                Steve Maier

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                                  It looks like MonoTouch might actually be allowed now, or will be shortly with these new changes mentioned in this press release. http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html[^]

                                  Steve Maier

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                                  "We are continually trying to make the App Store even better. We have listened to our three remaining developers and taken much of their feedback to heart." Sounds about right.

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                                    Don't worry about it. The important thing to remember - Apple's too stylish to care about rules. The developer guideline probably reads like: "Wear a turtleneck sweater. Drink some latte Go to a fancy restaurant where they serve you tiny portions on square plates, sprinkle with a Jus, and charge you a fortune Change your name to Tarquin, Tristran, Emanista or Diamantia Remember that we're too stylish to care about you"

                                    I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be

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                                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                                    That seals it - I'm moving to Android.  :) /ravi

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