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When has the US ever done anything for other than material gain/.

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  • L Lost User

    And where did I say any other power was any different?

    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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    RichardM1
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    So if i call someone's mom a whore, it's ok if I don't say that nobody else's mom isn't one? Piss off. you said "When has the US ever done anything for other than material gain" not stripping europe. marshal plan. now, when has fat_boy ever admitted he was wrong?

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      GO back to its founding days. Samuel Adams, Boston traders/marketeers/smugglers, dress up as natives, and attack British ships carrying tea to: 1) Protect their market 2) To try to break the treaty between the British and the native americans; a treaty that guaranteed that the interior of the US would not come under British control. Then I thought of the Ford whats its name with the exploding fuel tank, the copany decided it was cheaper to pay out for deaths than to fix the design. The Iraq war, whose sole intent was to secure an oil supply. When one realises how close US government is to US big business is there anything the US has done that ISNT for menetary gain and prompted by business interests?

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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      Dalek Dave
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      All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans Americans ever done for us?

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        All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans Americans ever done for us?

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        I agree: even if what they do for themselves is for pecuniary advantage the spin-offs enhance all our lives and to imagine that any 'empire' does anything for the good of the people is being more than a little naive. The best you can hope for is that an empire wants to sell you something and not enslave you. That is enlightened (and welcome) empire. And I'd much rather be part of the USA than part of the utter shambles that is Europe.

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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        • D Dalek Dave

          Superpower? Pah, they are beginners. Not like the worlds biggest ever superpower.

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          Lost User
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          The Dutch Empire wasn't all that small either..

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          • D Dalek Dave

            All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans Americans ever done for us?

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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            RichardM1
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            Dave, here is one you will appreciate: We finished making English the Lingua Franca

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            • D Dalek Dave

              All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans Americans ever done for us?

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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              Lost User
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              The Romans also just disappeared, and we didn't bawww about it excessively like 3rd world shïtholes that used to be decent colonies that so desperately wanted to be independent do now.

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                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                Those fluffy little tails tickle.

                I must be tired, I just got an awful thought of something physically impossible. X| :-O

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans Americans ever done for us?

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                  Ian Shlasko
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                  I find it amusing that of the first three replies to a Life of Brian quote, only one of them actually seemed to recognize it. The others should turn in their geek cards immediately.

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                  • I Ian Shlasko

                    I find it amusing that of the first three replies to a Life of Brian quote, only one of them actually seemed to recognize it. The others should turn in their geek cards immediately.

                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                    Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                    What is a geek card and where can I get one?

                    "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                      What is a geek card and where can I get one?

                      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                      Single Step Debugger
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                      The same as the mental disease certificate, but it comes in a different color and you’re not eligible for a public welfare. Other than that there are no significant differences.

                      The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        What is a geek card and where can I get one?

                        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me

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                        Ian Shlasko
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                        See here[^]

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                        • I Ian Shlasko

                          I find it amusing that of the first three replies to a Life of Brian quote, only one of them actually seemed to recognize it. The others should turn in their geek cards immediately.

                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                          Lost User
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                          You should turn in your "having a life" card immediately for recognizing a movie quote.

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                          • L Lost User

                            You should turn in your "having a life" card immediately for recognizing a movie quote.

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                            Ian Shlasko
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                            Man, that was revoked YEARS ago... I can't even remember the last time I had a life.

                            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                            • I Ian Shlasko

                              Man, that was revoked YEARS ago... I can't even remember the last time I had a life.

                              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                              Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                              Lost User
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                              You've had multiple lives? :)

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                              • L Lost User

                                GO back to its founding days. Samuel Adams, Boston traders/marketeers/smugglers, dress up as natives, and attack British ships carrying tea to: 1) Protect their market 2) To try to break the treaty between the British and the native americans; a treaty that guaranteed that the interior of the US would not come under British control. Then I thought of the Ford whats its name with the exploding fuel tank, the copany decided it was cheaper to pay out for deaths than to fix the design. The Iraq war, whose sole intent was to secure an oil supply. When one realises how close US government is to US big business is there anything the US has done that ISNT for menetary gain and prompted by business interests?

                                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                Then I thought of the Ford whats its name with the exploding fuel tank, the copany decided it was cheaper to pay out for deaths than to fix the design.

                                Pinto

                                fat_boy wrote:

                                The Iraq war, whose sole intent was to secure an oil supply.

                                And look how well that turned out.

                                fat_boy wrote:

                                When one realises how close US government is to US big business is there anything the US has done that ISNT for menetary gain and prompted by business interests?

                                FDR did quite a bit, and the American conservative vilifies him for it. There seem to be two forces in US history, the idealists, and the assholes. More often than not the assholes get their way, but when the idealists actually accomplish something they intended to it typically winds up in our history books. That said, the assholes have a few entries of their own, war of 1812, that lovely section on hoovervilles(But the free market works everyone :thumbsup:), and their most recent contributions with the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  You've had multiple lives? :)

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                                  Ian Shlasko
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                                  Depends... Do multiple personalities count?

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                                  • I Ian Shlasko

                                    Depends... Do multiple personalities count?

                                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                                    Lost User
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                                    Maybe if they can die separately :)

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      Maybe if they can die separately :)

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                                      Ian Shlasko
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                                      Some already have. They don't get along.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        The Dutch Empire wasn't all that small either..

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                                        RichardM1
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                                        That's who he was talking about, right, Dave?

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Becoming a superpower in the first place is the surest sign of only caring about material gain.

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                                          RichardM1
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                                          harold aptroot wrote:

                                          Becoming a superpower in the first place is the surest sign of only caring about material gain.

                                          How does that follow? Spending a lot on guns is what you do to have butter? It sounds good, and all, but it does not make sense.

                                          Opacity, the new Transparency.

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