When has the US ever done anything for other than material gain/.
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All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans Americans ever done for us?
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I agree: even if what they do for themselves is for pecuniary advantage the spin-offs enhance all our lives and to imagine that any 'empire' does anything for the good of the people is being more than a little naive. The best you can hope for is that an empire wants to sell you something and not enslave you. That is enlightened (and welcome) empire. And I'd much rather be part of the USA than part of the utter shambles that is Europe.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans Americans ever done for us?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
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All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans Americans ever done for us?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
bunny-hugging foreign politics
We only bunny hug because it feeeeeellllllsssss sooooooooo good. Those fluffy little tails tickle.
I have CDO, it's OCD with the letters in the right order; just as they ruddy well should be
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Those fluffy little tails tickle.
I must be tired, I just got an awful thought of something physically impossible. X| :-O
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All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans Americans ever done for us?
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]
I find it amusing that of the first three replies to a Life of Brian quote, only one of them actually seemed to recognize it. The others should turn in their geek cards immediately.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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I find it amusing that of the first three replies to a Life of Brian quote, only one of them actually seemed to recognize it. The others should turn in their geek cards immediately.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)What is a geek card and where can I get one?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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What is a geek card and where can I get one?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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What is a geek card and where can I get one?
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
The same as the mental disease certificate, but it comes in a different color and you’re not eligible for a public welfare. Other than that there are no significant differences.
The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
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I find it amusing that of the first three replies to a Life of Brian quote, only one of them actually seemed to recognize it. The others should turn in their geek cards immediately.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Man, that was revoked YEARS ago... I can't even remember the last time I had a life.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Man, that was revoked YEARS ago... I can't even remember the last time I had a life.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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GO back to its founding days. Samuel Adams, Boston traders/marketeers/smugglers, dress up as natives, and attack British ships carrying tea to: 1) Protect their market 2) To try to break the treaty between the British and the native americans; a treaty that guaranteed that the interior of the US would not come under British control. Then I thought of the Ford whats its name with the exploding fuel tank, the copany decided it was cheaper to pay out for deaths than to fix the design. The Iraq war, whose sole intent was to secure an oil supply. When one realises how close US government is to US big business is there anything the US has done that ISNT for menetary gain and prompted by business interests?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Then I thought of the Ford whats its name with the exploding fuel tank, the copany decided it was cheaper to pay out for deaths than to fix the design.
Pinto
fat_boy wrote:
The Iraq war, whose sole intent was to secure an oil supply.
And look how well that turned out.
fat_boy wrote:
When one realises how close US government is to US big business is there anything the US has done that ISNT for menetary gain and prompted by business interests?
FDR did quite a bit, and the American conservative vilifies him for it. There seem to be two forces in US history, the idealists, and the assholes. More often than not the assholes get their way, but when the idealists actually accomplish something they intended to it typically winds up in our history books. That said, the assholes have a few entries of their own, war of 1812, that lovely section on hoovervilles(But the free market works everyone :thumbsup:), and their most recent contributions with the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
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Depends... Do multiple personalities count?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Depends... Do multiple personalities count?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Some already have. They don't get along.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Becoming a superpower in the first place is the surest sign of only caring about material gain.
harold aptroot wrote:
Becoming a superpower in the first place is the surest sign of only caring about material gain.
How does that follow? Spending a lot on guns is what you do to have butter? It sounds good, and all, but it does not make sense.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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harold aptroot wrote:
Becoming a superpower in the first place is the surest sign of only caring about material gain.
How does that follow? Spending a lot on guns is what you do to have butter? It sounds good, and all, but it does not make sense.
Opacity, the new Transparency.
Spending a lot on guns makes you have lots of guns. It's clearly an attempt to establish a better position in the world market. And it doesn't give you anything "else" - what do you get from being a super power? Do other countries love you? Hell no. Do you get richer? Sure. Just look at any former super power - at their height they were pretty rich, even the USSR (though clearly their system was broken).
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Spending a lot on guns makes you have lots of guns. It's clearly an attempt to establish a better position in the world market. And it doesn't give you anything "else" - what do you get from being a super power? Do other countries love you? Hell no. Do you get richer? Sure. Just look at any former super power - at their height they were pretty rich, even the USSR (though clearly their system was broken).
So, us spent bucks on defense. How did all the money we poured into marshal plan and nato get us a better position in the world market? Post wwii, us only invaded korea, vietnam, haiti, panama, iraq, afghanistan. Please explain how adventurism made us so rich. Our richness has not been driven by colonial control, as that of other super powers. I don't see the purpose of other countries loving the us. You do what's right, because it is, not so your neighbors will love you. I don't see that the USSR was ever rich, when they had food shortages all the time. But I'm sure I'm biased. because I don't see north korea as rich. But if you have facts, I'm interested in learning them.
Opacity, the new Transparency.