Ah the irony of it
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, they don't. Obamacare is just a mandate to buy insurance from the same big insurance companies that have been trumping you like a cheap whore.
I love how they still label this Obamacare, when it's more or less exactly the plan republicans had attempted to push for a decade ago. Obamacare was a public option, this is an unholy monster created by a combination of corporate interests and blatant politicking.
Distind wrote:
Obamacare was a public option, this is an unholy monster created by a combination of corporate interests and blatant politicking.
And obama signed it with pleasure. It was one of his great accomplishments.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Becoming government property is not patriotism.
Riiight. Love to be there when you explain that to the conscripting officer. But, whether it is patriotism or not, he has guts, you don't.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
And his health insurance is not part of that pay?
Evidently not.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
But I thought he was bad for demanded his pay (which includes his benefits).
But I thought he was bad for demanded his pay. Are you a third world immigrant? Neither his healthcare nor his security are part of his pay. They are benefits. They are a charge on the taxpayer. With $174,000 p.a., he earns sufficient to pay health insurance. I was surprised that Representatives required a security detail, I don't condone it. You can always elect another to replace any you 'lose'.
I see in that entire conversation he completely avoids the point of why he didn't just pay for it himself if government run, subsidies or otherwise health care was against his ethics. This man like most people have ethics of convenience rather than confidence. He like most can't admit when they're wrong because it would make him loose face. After this last election it is clear to me that facts as can be proven with any 5 senses we poses really don't matter. Perception, as CSS grabs as fact, is what decides elections and changes minds. Making things up as quality in politics is as masterful as writers telling a story right now. Why talk about the problems facing our nation or discussing what kind of country we want to create when money and power can't be collected from either of those things. Tea Partiers are going to be sorely disappointed in their saviors just like they are now with Scott Brown. There is a lot of corruption in DC, but it didn't get there by itself. It had to get elected by 'we' the people. We're complicit in it.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
the Tea Partiers and just about everyone else who doesn't get free money from the government want's to be left alone to mak
What a load of hogwash. SS is a very popular program that huge majorities of the population support and, of course there is nothing 'free' about it. Most people pay more in SS taxes than income tax. Nor is unemployement insurance 'free'.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
forcibly confiscating what they have earned.
More hogwash. Income taxes are part of the price we pay for our government. If you don't like it, you are free to move to any locality that has no taxes. (Good luck with that).
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The poor people get hurt the most by the government because they...
More hogwash. Your moral hazard argument really carries no weight. It might carry some weight if the social safety net was anywhere near as generous as most European countries, but it isn't by any stretch of the imagination. And they don't seem to have the 'hopeless hellpits' that you imagine.
Majerus wrote:
CaptainSeeSharp wrote: forcibly confiscating what they have earned. More hogwash. Income taxes are part of the price we pay for our government. If you don't like it, you are free to move to any locality that has no taxes. (Good luck with that).
He should move to Somalia. It has no government so no taxes and he can do pretty much what ever he wants. Of course the warlords might beg to differ, but no government yay. He's such a tool.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There are no disagreements regarding the interpretation between real conservatives and constitutionalists. Any disagreements are between the good guys vs. the lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians.
But there will be disagreements, under what power will the 'good guys' be able to dismiss others as 'lefties, crooks, and corrupt politicians'?
Josh Gray wrote:
But there will be disagreements
You know he's not going to get it.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Majerus wrote:
CaptainSeeSharp wrote: forcibly confiscating what they have earned. More hogwash. Income taxes are part of the price we pay for our government. If you don't like it, you are free to move to any locality that has no taxes. (Good luck with that).
He should move to Somalia. It has no government so no taxes and he can do pretty much what ever he wants. Of course the warlords might beg to differ, but no government yay. He's such a tool.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Josh Gray wrote:
But there will be disagreements
You know he's not going to get it.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
wolfbinary wrote:
You know he's not going to get it.
We just like banging our heads against the wall once in a while... We are geeks, aren't we?
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.