A solution to the African hunger problem.
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pseudonym67 wrote:
So you dont think that not using all the quality land to grow cash crops for the west and instead using it to grow food for the natives would be a good idea then?
Dont you think that the simple choice of whether to grow food for themselves or grow food for cash crops is an ecconomic one with the choice being the most effective?
pseudonym67 wrote:
Due to the influence of the catholic church they wouldn't use them. Why do you think aids is so prevalent in Africa?
You really think the church is a bigger influence than their inability to buy them?
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fat_boy wrote:
Dont you think that the simple choice of whether to grow food for themselves or grow food for cash crops is an ecconomic one with the choice being the most effective?
no not really. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5624419[^] "Advocates say ending the cycle of poverty depends on putting farmland in the hands of blacks. About 96 percent of commercial arable land is still in the hands of South Africa's white farmers. But efforts to reform land ownership in places like the rural part of South Africa's Western Cape have been slow to get off the ground. The landscape of the Western Cape is thickly populated with rows upon rows of lush green vineyards, producing wine that generates some $13 billion to the country. They are joined by miles of orchards of pear and peach trees and other fruits, as well as olives — all growing in rich, well-tended and irrigated soil"
fat_boy wrote:
You really think the church is a bigger influence than their inability to buy them?
They've got loads http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/09/condoms-south-africa-world-cup[^] They wont use them http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7947460.stm[^]
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Stop helping them. The population will stabilize on a size at which it is capable of growing/gathering enough food for itself. Maybe that size is zero, I doubt it, but if it is, so be it. In fact, maybe allow them to be hunted in certain areas (and only a limited number each year). This works for deer and wild boar so why not Africans? Problem solved. As a bonus, we would waste less tax money on them.
I think the Swift Proposal[^] could be applied to Africa, quite successfully.
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fat_boy wrote:
Dont you think that the simple choice of whether to grow food for themselves or grow food for cash crops is an ecconomic one with the choice being the most effective?
no not really. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5624419[^] "Advocates say ending the cycle of poverty depends on putting farmland in the hands of blacks. About 96 percent of commercial arable land is still in the hands of South Africa's white farmers. But efforts to reform land ownership in places like the rural part of South Africa's Western Cape have been slow to get off the ground. The landscape of the Western Cape is thickly populated with rows upon rows of lush green vineyards, producing wine that generates some $13 billion to the country. They are joined by miles of orchards of pear and peach trees and other fruits, as well as olives — all growing in rich, well-tended and irrigated soil"
fat_boy wrote:
You really think the church is a bigger influence than their inability to buy them?
They've got loads http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/09/condoms-south-africa-world-cup[^] They wont use them http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7947460.stm[^]
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South Africa is only one country in Africa. I think we're talking about the whole continent here. :)
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Yes, I get the point and reference, but just to be a pedant, (and specific to Britain), the Celts were building roads before the Romans arrived and had their own laws, (interestingly enough under which women were more equal than they were at any time until the latter stages of the last century). There is also some evidence to suggest that the Roman Empire learned some of their earlier military strategy from mainland European Celts, adapting and improving on it over time ;P
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(interestingly enough under which women were more equal than they were at any time until the latter stages of the last century).
Only because the Celtish men could relate to women better. They diddo wear skirts, didn't they?
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I think the Swift Proposal[^] could be applied to Africa, quite successfully.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
common dependancy, striving to learn, to improve, investing time, effort and money in novel ideas
:) you must be kidding. These ideas are surfacing nowadays (I mean maybe 60-70 years) not when there was looting. it was not a fair trade.
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Africans loot, white people give them jobs because we produce and we are kind gentle creatures that want to give the wild blacks a chance at life.
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They chopped down almost all forests, used a lot of other resources, recruited the locals into their army, and then they let the western part of their empire (that's us) fall into the Dark Ages. Of course Italy is not the Roman Empire, so asking them for compensation is silly, isn't it? Just as the Netherlands aren't the Dutch Empire, and the UK isn't really the British Empire..
He is too ignorant to understand, he just wants people to be punished for anything and everything because thats what he learned in school.
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fat_boy wrote:
Dont you think that the simple choice of whether to grow food for themselves or grow food for cash crops is an ecconomic one with the choice being the most effective?
no not really. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5624419[^] "Advocates say ending the cycle of poverty depends on putting farmland in the hands of blacks. About 96 percent of commercial arable land is still in the hands of South Africa's white farmers. But efforts to reform land ownership in places like the rural part of South Africa's Western Cape have been slow to get off the ground. The landscape of the Western Cape is thickly populated with rows upon rows of lush green vineyards, producing wine that generates some $13 billion to the country. They are joined by miles of orchards of pear and peach trees and other fruits, as well as olives — all growing in rich, well-tended and irrigated soil"
fat_boy wrote:
You really think the church is a bigger influence than their inability to buy them?
They've got loads http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/09/condoms-south-africa-world-cup[^] They wont use them http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7947460.stm[^]
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pseudonym67 wrote:
Advocates say ending the cycle of poverty depends on putting farmland in the hands of blacks
This is what has happened in Zimbabwe, with the result of causing massive starvation. As for the Cape, dont forget it was first settled by westerners, so its their land, the blakcs have no inherent rights at all. ...etc... Or they just prefer anal sex? Dont know. Anyway, seems a self limiting problem.
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Africans loot, white people give them jobs because we produce and we are kind gentle creatures that want to give the wild blacks a chance at life.
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Wow... That's so racist and stupid that I'm not even going to put it in my quote thread...
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Wow... That's so racist and stupid that I'm not even going to put it in my quote thread...
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South Africa is only one country in Africa. I think we're talking about the whole continent here. :)
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And parts os SA (in fact quite a lot) was first settled by Westerners. (Which means the blacks have no rights over the land). The fact they are incapable of farming it efficiently has also not been mentioned. Look at Zombabwe for a good example of just what they do with the land when they get it.
"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
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Africans loot, white people give them jobs because we produce and we are kind gentle creatures that want to give the wild blacks a chance at life.
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Do you ever stop and wonder, what it is Niggers really are? I know the truth, and to you I will give it. Thirty-six thousand years ago a race of superior alien beings came to earth. They landed on the gigantic and empty continent known today as Africa, and in their load they carried a big number of dark-skinned individuals - niggers - who they brought along as slave labour from Mercury. The reason they are black is to protect them from the strong UV-lights so close to the sun. Niggers were harmless beings as long as they remained under strict control of their masters and were not allowed any own thoughts. If left alone in groups they quickly grew greedy and started running rampant and misbehaving. The humanoid aliens who cruised in spaceships of diamond did not like Earth, for it was populated by a race of very similar beings, Neanderthals and whatnot, so they quickly left. Of niggers however, they had a great surplus, wherefore they left them to die on Earth. The problem is that the niggers didn't die; They instead continued to flourish in their primal ways, seeing as they were unable to evolve any form of culture. They still lived in their tribal villages and townships when the Europeans arrived and brought them along on a journey cross the globe. Only now we are supposed to treat those apparently inferior beings as equals; and if we disagree that those alien scum are equal, we are racists and nazis and must be purged. Time is right for action. We must do something about this threat, for THE BLACK PLAGUE must be defeated! Their beastial manners surely is not the way civilised man lives!
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No... It isn't.
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Maybe not hunt them. But stop giving aid. This does not help them. Curing them of all these diseases does not help either, they have to feed these mouths. Don't send food or money, send condoms.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Don't send food or money, send condoms.
With the great abstinence programs we fund here in the states that won't happen. We can't even get people here to realize abstinence programs are a complete scientificly proven failure. Some recent studies I read about said kids today are better about protecting themselves than any previous generation is right now.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Africans loot, white people give them jobs because we produce and we are kind gentle creatures that want to give the wild blacks a chance at life.
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Kind and gentle, like the Nazis of WWII, the KKK, the church??? Or is hate and discrimination defined as kind and gentle in your very ignorant, undeveloped, thought processes...
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Stop helping them. The population will stabilize on a size at which it is capable of growing/gathering enough food for itself. Maybe that size is zero, I doubt it, but if it is, so be it. In fact, maybe allow them to be hunted in certain areas (and only a limited number each year). This works for deer and wild boar so why not Africans? Problem solved. As a bonus, we would waste less tax money on them.
harold aptroot wrote:
In fact, maybe allow them to be hunted in certain areas (and only a limited number each year). This works for deer and wild boar so why not Africans?
I think this was done once in a movie with Ice-T. Having another hateful day I see. What a waste. You need another hobby other than writing crap like this here.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Wow... That's so racist and stupid that I'm not even going to put it in my quote thread...
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)You took the words right out of my mouth. I laughed though, but only in amazement.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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And parts os SA (in fact quite a lot) was first settled by Westerners. (Which means the blacks have no rights over the land). The fact they are incapable of farming it efficiently has also not been mentioned. Look at Zombabwe for a good example of just what they do with the land when they get it.
"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
I agree that at the present, there is an amount of incapability. However, the question is, is there a willingness to learn on their part, in which case I think we owe it to them to teach them how it is done as best we know it. We did introduce them to the wider world. We can't expect them to thrive in that world without some knowledge as well.
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