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A solution to the African hunger problem.

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    I think the Swift Proposal[^] could be applied to Africa, quite successfully.

    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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    It is blindingly obvious, and so simple. And what better way to rid ourselves of the bottom fifth of our population! (Just what School League Tables and Exams are for!) Cheap food, massive tax savings and lower unemployment. Not to mention a great motivator for the indolent classes to improve themselves! The man was a genius.

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      That is some amazing racist scifi crap. You certainly like to ad to your resume of hateful speech. I take it you're not using your real name in anyway. It sounds like some kind of L Ron Hubbord junk smashed with Scientology junk. Are you going to start a religion now. Like a lot of recent religions yours too can start off with racism. :laugh: edit: due to misunderstanding.

      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

      modified on Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:26 AM

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      Ian Shlasko
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      I think he was being sarcastic, wolf :) Well, maybe "sarcastic" isn't the right word... But come on... Did you really think he was serious? He's making fun of CSS

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        waste less tax money on them

        Just wasted elsewhere. I do not agree with the hunting, however, I have wondered for years about the charities that collect for children. How many of the children they help end up having kids that need help because the cause of the need has not changed? I think helping out after a disaster is okay but not for years and years. See Katrina in the USA. See unemployment benefits in the USA. I guess I am just bitter as no one is helping me.

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        djj55 wrote:

        I guess I am just bitter as no one is helping me.

        That's what creates the destruction of our social safety nets. I've been on unemployment and its not fun. I hate it. Not working destroys your sense of worth I think. Just giving food to people and not helping them to find work instead, etc perpetuates the cycle. There is a lot of work force development going on, but you don't hear about it. If we didn't subsidize the farming industry here food prices would reflect the cost of production. Farmers in Africa would be able to make a living better if we and any other country didn't. I don't think our food prices would go through the roof either, but at least then another corporate give away would end. Family farmers aren't the ones that really benefit from it anyway. It's the industrial farming that does. Tea partiers are right about at least one thing I see and that the government trough is large and wide and many take from it.

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          I have never understood why it is a good idea to increase life expectancy in areas where there is famine and therefore clearly already too many people for the available food. You cannot increase the rate of evolution of a society or an area no more than you can that of a species. Evolution has to take place according to the environment it is happening in. Trying to create a population in any area larger than it can sustain is not a good idea. Giving guns to people who have not been able to develop them themselves is not a good idea. Trying to impose democracy on a society that has not developed it yet is not a good idea. Too much of the world has been buggered up a little bit more by people trying to interfere, some were interfering for their own benefit, others were trying to help. I don't think any of them have done any long term good.

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          It's been sometime ago, but CSS and Christian had an argument about home many resources it could take to sustain a population and that there is only so much to go around, before your out. Be prepared to repeat this with him. ;P

          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            I think the Swift Proposal[^] could be applied to Africa, quite successfully.

            Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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            I had been trying to find out who wrote about that for ages. Thanks. ;P

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              I had been trying to find out who wrote about that for ages. Thanks. ;P

              That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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              Welcome - you only had to ask! :-D

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                It is blindingly obvious, and so simple. And what better way to rid ourselves of the bottom fifth of our population! (Just what School League Tables and Exams are for!) Cheap food, massive tax savings and lower unemployment. Not to mention a great motivator for the indolent classes to improve themselves! The man was a genius.

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                I'm sure you know he was a satirist.

                That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                  I'm sure you know he was a satirist.

                  That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                  I see you do not recognise sarcasm.

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    I think the Swift Proposal[^] could be applied to Africa, quite successfully.

                    Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                    The first time I read this, I was observing a 6th Form English class (not perving, well not much at any rate, part of my teacher training in an FE college). It depressed the hell out of me that they were all disgusted at it because they thought it was a real suggestion. I'd been enjoying a fortnightly dose of sarcasm courtesy of private eye since the age of 13 or so, and they couldn't work similar stuff out aged 18-21. Still, they were on an English course, so they couldn't have been that clever. Akin to a-level breathing, or BTec Sleep I suppose.

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                      Stop helping them. The population will stabilize on a size at which it is capable of growing/gathering enough food for itself. Maybe that size is zero, I doubt it, but if it is, so be it. In fact, maybe allow them to be hunted in certain areas (and only a limited number each year). This works for deer and wild boar so why not Africans? Problem solved. As a bonus, we would waste less tax money on them.

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                      I work for a foundation that is helping children in South Africa, India and the US. It's a lot different working in SA. When we give a scholarship in the US we can usually just give money for books and tuition. In SA we end up having to give extra money for food, medicine and other costs just so the students can stay in school.

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                        I work for a foundation that is helping children in South Africa, India and the US. It's a lot different working in SA. When we give a scholarship in the US we can usually just give money for books and tuition. In SA we end up having to give extra money for food, medicine and other costs just so the students can stay in school.

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                        And SA isn't even the worst part of Africa

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                          And SA isn't even the worst part of Africa

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                          Have you ever been to Cairo? I have seen some shitholes in my time, but Cairo was the worst.

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                            Have you ever been to Cairo? I have seen some shitholes in my time, but Cairo was the worst.

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                            I've never been to Cairo, but I'll take your word for it

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                              And SA isn't even the worst part of Africa

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                              Not even close. Some of the projects we help fund are things like http://www.dewormtheworld.org/[^]. The foundation's approach is to only fund projects that can make a measurable difference in people's lives rather then just dump money on a problem.

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                                The first time I read this, I was observing a 6th Form English class (not perving, well not much at any rate, part of my teacher training in an FE college). It depressed the hell out of me that they were all disgusted at it because they thought it was a real suggestion. I'd been enjoying a fortnightly dose of sarcasm courtesy of private eye since the age of 13 or so, and they couldn't work similar stuff out aged 18-21. Still, they were on an English course, so they couldn't have been that clever. Akin to a-level breathing, or BTec Sleep I suppose.

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                                Keith Barrow wrote:

                                Still, they were on an English course, so they couldn't have been that clever. Akin to a-level breathing

                                I thought that was Media Studies? :laugh:

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                                  The first time I read this, I was observing a 6th Form English class (not perving, well not much at any rate, part of my teacher training in an FE college). It depressed the hell out of me that they were all disgusted at it because they thought it was a real suggestion. I'd been enjoying a fortnightly dose of sarcasm courtesy of private eye since the age of 13 or so, and they couldn't work similar stuff out aged 18-21. Still, they were on an English course, so they couldn't have been that clever. Akin to a-level breathing, or BTec Sleep I suppose.

                                  Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]

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                                  Keith Barrow wrote:

                                  Still, they were on an English course, so they couldn't have been that clever. Akin to a-level breathing, or BTec Sleep I suppose.

                                  Bit like teacher training then. Akin to Envoronmental Studies, History of Art, or Sociology. ;P

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                                    pseudonym67 wrote:

                                    Advocates say ending the cycle of poverty depends on putting farmland in the hands of blacks

                                    This is what has happened in Zimbabwe, with the result of causing massive starvation. As for the Cape, dont forget it was first settled by westerners, so its their land, the blakcs have no inherent rights at all. ...etc... Or they just prefer anal sex? Dont know. Anyway, seems a self limiting problem.

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                                    fat_boy wrote:

                                    This is what has happened in Zimbabwe, with the result of causing massive starvation.

                                    Before 2000 land-owning farmers, mostly white, had large tracts of land and utilized economies of scale to raise capital, borrow money when necessary, and purchase modern mechanised farm equipment to increase productivity on their land. As the primary beneficiaries of the land reform were members of the Government and their families, despite the fact that most had no experience in running a farm, the drop in total farm output has been tremendous and has even produced starvation and famine, according to aid agencies.[17] Mostly crops for export have suffered severely, e.g. Zimbabwe was the world's 6th largest producers of Tobacco in 2001.[18] It produces nowadays less than 1/3 of the amount produced in 2000,[19] the lowest amount in 50 years.[20] Zimbabwe was once so rich in agricultural produce that it was dubbed the "bread basket" of Southern Africa, while it is now struggling to feed its own population. About 45 percent of the population is considered malnourished. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reform_in_Zimbabwe[^] The starvation in Zimbabwe is due to the politically/militarily powerful giving land to the their supporters who have no interest or knowledge of farming.

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                                    As for the Cape, dont forget it was first settled by westerners, so its their land, the blakcs have no inherent rights at all.

                                    complete and utter nonsense. What do you think the tribes were doing? Do you think they had SA fenced off for thousands of years sign posts stating DO NOT ENTER WAITING FOR WHITEY TO DISCOVER THIS LAND. The San were there long before the whites got there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushmen[^]

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                                      Keith Barrow wrote:

                                      Still, they were on an English course, so they couldn't have been that clever. Akin to a-level breathing, or BTec Sleep I suppose.

                                      Bit like teacher training then. Akin to Envoronmental Studies, History of Art, or Sociology. ;P

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                                      ict558 wrote:

                                      Bit like teacher training then.

                                      Truer than you'd believe. I left teaching after one year because of the two problems: the kids; the teachers. Still don't know which was worse, at least the kids were supposed to behave like kids, not sure what the teacher's excuse was.

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                                        ict558 wrote:

                                        Bit like teacher training then.

                                        Truer than you'd believe. I left teaching after one year because of the two problems: the kids; the teachers. Still don't know which was worse, at least the kids were supposed to behave like kids, not sure what the teacher's excuse was.

                                        Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]

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                                        Keith Barrow wrote:

                                        not sure what the teacher's excuse was.

                                        :)

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                                          Stop helping them. The population will stabilize on a size at which it is capable of growing/gathering enough food for itself. Maybe that size is zero, I doubt it, but if it is, so be it. In fact, maybe allow them to be hunted in certain areas (and only a limited number each year). This works for deer and wild boar so why not Africans? Problem solved. As a bonus, we would waste less tax money on them.

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                                          Feed The World[^] May be this video will help you to come up with better Strategy!

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