Why?
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Why do PC manufacturers insist on preinstalling crappy software I don't want. Would not be so bad if the recovery disk (that you have to make up yourself these days) only installed the OS parts you want, like when you install from a retail windows CD. I've spent nearly 1.5 hours uninstalling software from a laptop :mad: That's time from my life I'll never get back :(( Rant over (for now anyway)
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Why do PC manufacturers insist on preinstalling crappy software I don't want. Would not be so bad if the recovery disk (that you have to make up yourself these days) only installed the OS parts you want, like when you install from a retail windows CD. I've spent nearly 1.5 hours uninstalling software from a laptop :mad: That's time from my life I'll never get back :(( Rant over (for now anyway)
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Why do PC manufacturers insist on preinstalling crappy software I don't want. Would not be so bad if the recovery disk (that you have to make up yourself these days) only installed the OS parts you want, like when you install from a retail windows CD. I've spent nearly 1.5 hours uninstalling software from a laptop :mad: That's time from my life I'll never get back :(( Rant over (for now anyway)
Because Norton would have no sales at all otherwise.
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Because Norton would have no sales at all otherwise.
I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
How did you know Norton was one of the crappy bit of software I removed?
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real Programmers don't need comments -- the code is obvious.
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Because Norton would have no sales at all otherwise.
I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Why do PC manufacturers insist on preinstalling crappy software I don't want. Would not be so bad if the recovery disk (that you have to make up yourself these days) only installed the OS parts you want, like when you install from a retail windows CD. I've spent nearly 1.5 hours uninstalling software from a laptop :mad: That's time from my life I'll never get back :(( Rant over (for now anyway)
Steven J Jowett wrote:
Why do PC manufacturers insist on preinstalling crappy software I don't want.
They dont as you are not that high up on their 'People its Funny to piss off list'. They insist on preinstalling crappy software that CG doesn't want. The fact that you don't want it either is mere coincidence.
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Why do PC manufacturers insist on preinstalling crappy software I don't want. Would not be so bad if the recovery disk (that you have to make up yourself these days) only installed the OS parts you want, like when you install from a retail windows CD. I've spent nearly 1.5 hours uninstalling software from a laptop :mad: That's time from my life I'll never get back :(( Rant over (for now anyway)
About six weeks ago I bought an Acer Aspire 8943G, which came with Win 7 Home. I needed to upgrade to Ultimate, but wanted to keep the original OS in case I needed to revert later, so I went through the start up procedure, and then made the restore DVDs. Wonder of wonders - not only can you do a full out-of-the-box restore, but you can also make an additional DVD containing all the drivers and additional software, which can then be installed selectively. This is the first time I have seen this, and I think Acer deserve lots of brownie points for implementing it. Once I had made the five DVDs I wacked in two Seagate Momentus 500GB/7200 SSD Hybrid drives, installed Ultimate, and then installed just the stuff I wanted from the fifth DVD. This was way faster than uninstalling the rubbish bits one at a time.
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How did you know Norton was one of the crappy bit of software I removed?
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real Programmers don't need comments -- the code is obvious.
It's usually one of the first bits of crappy software that any tech-savvy person removes. It's always installed.
I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
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Why do PC manufacturers insist on preinstalling crappy software I don't want. Would not be so bad if the recovery disk (that you have to make up yourself these days) only installed the OS parts you want, like when you install from a retail windows CD. I've spent nearly 1.5 hours uninstalling software from a laptop :mad: That's time from my life I'll never get back :(( Rant over (for now anyway)
Because to do otherwise would raise the cost. The software publishers pay the manufacturer to include the software, and that money is used to offset the retail cost of the hardware.
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Because to do otherwise would raise the cost. The software publishers pay the manufacturer to include the software, and that money is used to offset the retail cost of the hardware.
Yeah, but aleast give me the option to install it or not, especially on a reload.
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real Programmers don't need comments -- the code is obvious.
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Yeah, but aleast give me the option to install it or not, especially on a reload.
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real Programmers don't need comments -- the code is obvious.
The manufacturer can't supply a "vanilla" install of the OS, like you would buy retail. The OEM licence from Microsoft requires that the OS is only installed on the hardware it is shipped with, and is not transferrable to another computer. This is one of the reasons why the OEM licence is much cheaper than retail. I would imagine that providing a clean OS install that meets those requirements is too much hassle, so they produce the disk image incuding the OS and third-party stuff, and then provide a "recovery disk" that is essentially just an image copy onto the hard disk of the image shipped when it left the factory. The margin on a £1000 PC wafer-thin, at around £20, so anything that can be used to decrease the cost is used. The vast majority of their sales will be to people who would never install an OS fresh, so it doesn't make economic sense for them to support that option. If you want to do that, you can. Buy a retail copy of the OS, format the disk and install it. But it'll probably cost a fair bit, since the retail OS you buy isn't subsidised by Microsoft in any way.
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Why do PC manufacturers insist on preinstalling crappy software I don't want. Would not be so bad if the recovery disk (that you have to make up yourself these days) only installed the OS parts you want, like when you install from a retail windows CD. I've spent nearly 1.5 hours uninstalling software from a laptop :mad: That's time from my life I'll never get back :(( Rant over (for now anyway)
I haven't bothered removing the cruft that came already installed on my Dell Inspiron. It just doesn't get in the way.
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Even uninstalling leaves cr@p around. I always format a new machines hdd, and start fresh with what i want on it.
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Even uninstalling leaves cr@p around. I always format a new machines hdd, and start fresh with what i want on it.
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I remove everything I can and let it be until the warranty expires, and then I wipe/reinstall a real copy of Windows. If the machien came with Vista, I'll go out and buy a new hard drive and then install Weven on it. I have to say though, that uninstalling all the craop ware from my Acer has worked out quite well. None of the remaining components appear to be interfering with the machine, or my use of it.
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Why do PC manufacturers insist on preinstalling crappy software I don't want. Would not be so bad if the recovery disk (that you have to make up yourself these days) only installed the OS parts you want, like when you install from a retail windows CD. I've spent nearly 1.5 hours uninstalling software from a laptop :mad: That's time from my life I'll never get back :(( Rant over (for now anyway)
I'm ordering the computers at my job from Dell, specifying they should be without crapware. (This option is not available for the cheapo models. The manufacturers are paid to put the wares on) They are a lot more stable than the standard issue. I wonder how many people are swearing over Windows, when it's actually the crapwares fault.
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It's usually one of the first bits of crappy software that any tech-savvy person removes. It's always installed.
I'm not a stalker, I just know things. Oh by the way, you're out of milk.
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
My laptop came with McAfee, which I uninstalled immediately because it was so invasive. Then I installed Norton 2010, because I had a free copy lying around, and never had any problems at all, until the license expired. I found Norton 2010 to be way nicer than previous Nortons though.
