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Re: Is science just a new religion ?

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  • D Dalek Dave

    No, Science is not a religion. Science requires Questions and Disbelief and Intelligence, not unwavering faith and willingness to suspend common sense. Science changes as we learn more, religion falls into unchanging dogma. In science if you disagree you are asked to provide proof, in religion you are shunned or killed. Science requires proof and evidence, religion requires fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms.

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    Dalek Dave wrote:

    Science requires Questions and Disbelief and Intelligence, not unwavering faith and willingness to suspend common sense.

    Except GW

    Dalek Dave wrote:

    Science changes as we learn more, religion falls into unchanging dogma.

    Except GW

    Dalek Dave wrote:

    In science if you disagree you are asked to provide proof, in religion you are shunned or killed.

    Except GW

    Dalek Dave wrote:

    Science requires proof and evidence, religion requires fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms.

    Except Vatican Firemen...

    "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation." Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

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      Dan Mos
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      Repost!!!! :-D

      All the best, Dan

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      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

        Joe Woodbury wrote:

        Religion is most definitely not a search for trut

        I don't agree. That's not been my experience.

        Joe Woodbury wrote:

        Just like what you are doing.

        I don't think he was dogmatic at all. He is stating a truism.

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        ahmed zahmed wrote:

        He is stating a truism.

        The problem is that he wasn't. Just because you or I might agree with someone does not make what they say a truism.

        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          ahmed zahmed wrote:

          He is stating a truism.

          The problem is that he wasn't. Just because you or I might agree with someone does not make what they say a truism.

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          Henry Minute wrote:

          The problem is that he wasn't

          And just because you disagree doesn't mean the statement isn't a truism. Most philosophers would agree with the statement that both Science and Religion (true Religion) are a search for truth.

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            Henry Minute wrote:

            The problem is that he wasn't

            And just because you disagree doesn't mean the statement isn't a truism. Most philosophers would agree with the statement that both Science and Religion (true Religion) are a search for truth.

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            Henry Minute
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            ahmed zahmed wrote:

            And just because you disagree doesn't mean the statement isn't a truism.

            There you go again, misquoting people. I said "Just because you or I might agree....".

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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            • H Henry Minute

              ahmed zahmed wrote:

              And just because you disagree doesn't mean the statement isn't a truism.

              There you go again, misquoting people. I said "Just because you or I might agree....".

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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              Henry Minute wrote:

              The problem is that he wasn't.

              Did you not post this? This statement indicates disagreement.

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                Henry Minute wrote:

                The problem is that he wasn't.

                Did you not post this? This statement indicates disagreement.

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                Henry Minute
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                Yes it does. It is however disagreement with your statement that it is a truism, not with what was said.

                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                • P Pualee

                  Joe Woodbury wrote:

                  Religion is most definitely not a search for truth; it's a claim of dogma. Just like what you are doing.

                  What I wrote isn't dogma, it is not a religious claim... just my opinions. Likewise, the Bible (the basis my religion) isn't dogma either. There is evidence to backup what is says as well. It is a collection of histories that happened to people in the past, a record of what they said and did. It is verifiable by archaeology and historical documents from alternate sources (Roman Historians for instance). It is your choice to investigate it or not, and your choice again to determine if what the authors recorded have any value to your life. There are dogmatic religions and people who will abuse their positions of power (whether derived from religious or secular sourches), but these do not change truth.

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                  well said.

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                  • H Henry Minute

                    Yes it does. It is however disagreement with your statement that it is a truism, not with what was said.

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    Ok. You're welcome to your opinion.

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                    • H Henry Minute

                      Yes it does. It is however disagreement with your statement that it is a truism, not with what was said.

                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      So, was I misquoting you or not?

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                      • P Pualee

                        Wouldn't that require a different attitude? :-D

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                        Vark111
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                        Don't know about attitude, but definitely a different altitude.

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          No, Science is not a religion. Science requires Questions and Disbelief and Intelligence, not unwavering faith and willingness to suspend common sense. Science changes as we learn more, religion falls into unchanging dogma. In science if you disagree you are asked to provide proof, in religion you are shunned or killed. Science requires proof and evidence, religion requires fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms.

                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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                          Whoever voted you down deserves a swift kick in the bollocks, either that or to enjoy the fruits of their miserable little half lives.


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                          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                            Wow, prejudiced aren't we? Most of what you say about religion is the anti-religion dogma of "science". Science can become a "religion" so-to-speak when practiced in a dogmatic way. Witness all the garbage about Global Warming.

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                            He wrote the simple truth, you brought your prejudice to it I think.


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