Do you think this honors the CP?
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
I mean making a joke with a new female member in the Lounge opened a can of worms and had deserved a high level attention
I didn't see the offending post, but if what I think was mentioned actually was, it would have merited a high level of attention. In any case, it sounds like it was too personal to be taken lightly, and it was comment directed at a specific member.
Deyan Georgiev wrote:
but offending entire nation without a reason is okay?
I've had a couple of run-ins with Oakman, so I'm no apologist for him, but where did he offend a nation? What he said was 99% accurate, that is where the word is derived from, a historical fact. The 1% he got wrong was why it is descended from the word Bulgaria, the logic (from the Middle Ages, not mine) runs: Bulgaria is the home of the Bogomils => Bogomils are heretics => Heretics are "inverted" Christians => inverted Christians have "inverted" sexual practises (in KSS terminology). Oakman posted in the Soapbox, which is for more contentious topics than the Lounge, so no problem there, if you don't like it, don't go there. Personally, I think it does honour the CP that we have open fora like this as programmers tend to be educated people, it would be much worse it didn't allow open discussion (albeit self-administrated). [Edit] And I've 1-voted you for bringing this little vendetta to the lounge.
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http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3733377/Re-Why-are-we-sending-soldiers-to-defend-these-peo.aspx[^] http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3733400/Re-Why-are-we-sending-soldiers-to-defend-these-peo.aspx[^] http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3734559/Re-Why-are-we-sending-soldiers-to-defend-these-peo.aspx[^] I mean making a joke with a new female member in the Lounge opened a can of worms and had deserved a high level attention but offending entire nation without a reason is okay? I reported it as abuse two days ago but it’s still there. I realize that CP team made a special form for this individual in order to keep him away from the public forums and it works most of the time, but IMO this time he has gone too far.
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I'm voting this post to be removed. Keep soapbox stuff there.
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http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3733377/Re-Why-are-we-sending-soldiers-to-defend-these-peo.aspx[^] http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3733400/Re-Why-are-we-sending-soldiers-to-defend-these-peo.aspx[^] http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3734559/Re-Why-are-we-sending-soldiers-to-defend-these-peo.aspx[^] I mean making a joke with a new female member in the Lounge opened a can of worms and had deserved a high level attention but offending entire nation without a reason is okay? I reported it as abuse two days ago but it’s still there. I realize that CP team made a special form for this individual in order to keep him away from the public forums and it works most of the time, but IMO this time he has gone too far.
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Do you think giving it the oxygen of publicity helps? I'm not a censorship freak; I can't see that it helps to drive any discussions underground. I think it does honour CP to allow such discussions, in a suitable forum, where anyone including yourself can add a logical and reasoned rebuttal. It is when discussion of certain subjects is forbidden without good reason that the freedom to speak, and think are eroded. A greater crime in my mind than ill-reasoned ranting intended only to start a flame war.
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
I mean making a joke with a new female member in the Lounge opened a can of worms and had deserved a high level attention
I didn't see the offending post, but if what I think was mentioned actually was, it would have merited a high level of attention. In any case, it sounds like it was too personal to be taken lightly, and it was comment directed at a specific member.
Deyan Georgiev wrote:
but offending entire nation without a reason is okay?
I've had a couple of run-ins with Oakman, so I'm no apologist for him, but where did he offend a nation? What he said was 99% accurate, that is where the word is derived from, a historical fact. The 1% he got wrong was why it is descended from the word Bulgaria, the logic (from the Middle Ages, not mine) runs: Bulgaria is the home of the Bogomils => Bogomils are heretics => Heretics are "inverted" Christians => inverted Christians have "inverted" sexual practises (in KSS terminology). Oakman posted in the Soapbox, which is for more contentious topics than the Lounge, so no problem there, if you don't like it, don't go there. Personally, I think it does honour the CP that we have open fora like this as programmers tend to be educated people, it would be much worse it didn't allow open discussion (albeit self-administrated). [Edit] And I've 1-voted you for bringing this little vendetta to the lounge.
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]Bogomils are a Christian reformatory movement in Bulgaria during the 9 century considered as the early Protestants of the East. How exactly pricks like you and Jokeman archive to extract from this the conclusion that the Bulgarians have invented the sodomy is beyond me. The fact that you have been upvoted shows that for your comfort you are not the only one ill-educated person in the forum.
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The Soapbox is there for a reason. Don't bring that stuff here. I've voted to remove your post. Cheers, Drew.
It’s the same site just one click away from the Lounge and on the same list, same frame. How far the hypocrisy can get?!
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I'm voting this post to be removed. Keep soapbox stuff there.
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It is okay until there are no Indians involved, right? You are pathetic.
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Do you think giving it the oxygen of publicity helps? I'm not a censorship freak; I can't see that it helps to drive any discussions underground. I think it does honour CP to allow such discussions, in a suitable forum, where anyone including yourself can add a logical and reasoned rebuttal. It is when discussion of certain subjects is forbidden without good reason that the freedom to speak, and think are eroded. A greater crime in my mind than ill-reasoned ranting intended only to start a flame war.
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You are the only one who has a point here. I just made the mistake to have too high opinion for the people in the Lounge so far. No more such mistakes. Just the usual mediocre mob as any other internet forum.
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It’s not about a hate speech. It’s a hate conclusion based on a fake facts.
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It is okay until there are no Indians involved, right? You are pathetic.
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YOU are pathetic, because this has nothing to do with Indians, and you should have known not to bring up crappy topics from the soapbox to the lounge. You've been long enough here to understand such an elementary thing.
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A friendly word of advice - stay clear of Oakman.
Thanks, I figured out this some time ago. Just a little spark of insanity when someone declares that your nation has spared the sodomy in the world basing his conclusion on some invented for the case semantics. My hope that someone here gives a shit – this was REALLY stupid from my side.
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
I realize that CP team made a special form for this individual in order to keep him away from the public forums
And now you are dragging him into one.
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See my answer to Norm.
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YOU are pathetic, because this has nothing to do with Indians, and you should have known not to bring up crappy topics from the soapbox to the lounge. You've been long enough here to understand such an elementary thing.
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See my answer to Norm and use your brain instead of your basic instincts. There was no Bulgarians involved as well in the soapbox thread until Jokeman started with his inventions. Now see the thread in the soapbox and replace Bulgarians with Indians. How it feels? And don’t play me the card with “don’t bring this here”. This is the same website which used to be my favorite and it’s the next link. Sorry for the “pathetic” part. I didn’t mean it, I’m just a little pissed off. A humiliating insinuation in the soapbox was backed up in the Longue. So what is the difference between them?
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See my answer to Norm and use your brain instead of your basic instincts. There was no Bulgarians involved as well in the soapbox thread until Jokeman started with his inventions. Now see the thread in the soapbox and replace Bulgarians with Indians. How it feels? And don’t play me the card with “don’t bring this here”. This is the same website which used to be my favorite and it’s the next link. Sorry for the “pathetic” part. I didn’t mean it, I’m just a little pissed off. A humiliating insinuation in the soapbox was backed up in the Longue. So what is the difference between them?
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You see, I'm using my brains. So, can I ask you to get off your miserable attempts to insult other people here? ("pathetic", "use your brain", etc.,) My sentiments would have remained the same if Bulgarians were replaced with Indians - my point was simple: Don't talk about this trash in the lounge. Which means "I'm playing the same card". Does that feel better? And I don't see the point in you 'worrying' too much about this just because some random person on the internet associated Bulgaria with something crappy. I had good respect for you, and I think you were (are) a nice fellow to talk with and I bet many others have the same feeling. However, I think that we should just drop this argument (or you could continue it with others at soapbox instead here). I wouldn't want to take this "issue" up any further for discussion.
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Bogomils are a Christian reformatory movement in Bulgaria during the 9 century considered as the early Protestants of the East. How exactly pricks like you and Jokeman archive to extract from this the conclusion that the Bulgarians have invented the sodomy is beyond me. The fact that you have been upvoted shows that for your comfort you are not the only one ill-educated person in the forum.
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
How exactly pricks like you and Jokeman archive to extract from this the conclusion that the Bulgarians have invented the sodomy is beyond me
Nice, I suggest you learn to how to read: This is exactly how the word was derived in the 10th Century. I don't and never believed that "Bulgarians invented sodomy" or even practised (or practise) it more than anyone else, but gave you the original mediaeval (and I hesitate to use the word) "logic" of how the word arrived in the English language. I stated this all this quite clearly in my post, if you don't like where it comes from, then that is your look out. My sources for this ? An ex-girlfriend who was a mediaeval historian told me this years ago, and it's all there in Wikipedia if you care to look, and partially in the Oxford English Dictionary. The upvotes could be for one of a few things: 1) Knowing the derevation of the word. 2) Pointing out all Oakman did was give you an etymology of the word: you took it personally, got upset and started an argument. 3) Telling you clearly that you shouldn't try and get validation for your petty vendetta here. So get your facts straight and get an education before getting abusive.
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Bogomils are a Christian reformatory movement in Bulgaria during the 9 century considered as the early Protestants of the East. How exactly pricks like you and Jokeman archive to extract from this the conclusion that the Bulgarians have invented the sodomy is beyond me. The fact that you have been upvoted shows that for your comfort you are not the only one ill-educated person in the forum.
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
How exactly pricks like you and Jokeman archive to extract from this the conclusion that the Bulgarians have invented the sodomy is beyond me.
As far as I understood from his explanation, it is not at all what he said. What I understood from his explanation is that they were considered heretics by the church at that time (like everybody who didn't fully agree with their views). So, the church propably accused them of having inverted sexual practices. He never said that Bulgarians invented sodomy, only that they were named like that because of the church.
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You see, I'm using my brains. So, can I ask you to get off your miserable attempts to insult other people here? ("pathetic", "use your brain", etc.,) My sentiments would have remained the same if Bulgarians were replaced with Indians - my point was simple: Don't talk about this trash in the lounge. Which means "I'm playing the same card". Does that feel better? And I don't see the point in you 'worrying' too much about this just because some random person on the internet associated Bulgaria with something crappy. I had good respect for you, and I think you were (are) a nice fellow to talk with and I bet many others have the same feeling. However, I think that we should just drop this argument (or you could continue it with others at soapbox instead here). I wouldn't want to take this "issue" up any further for discussion.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
Don't talk about this trash in the lounge.
Christ, that mean the lounge would be empty, and for yesterday well... ;)
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A friendly word of advice - stay clear of Oakman.
Norm .net wrote:
stay clear of Oakman.
ROFL :thumbsup:
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