Don't ever sign up for AT&T Internet service
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I'll skip the part that I've actually waited over a month to get Internet up and running... the thing that finally pissed me off is that they block port 25 by default and then require you to pay "special fee" in order to unblock that. I understand why they block it in the first place - OK, somebody in management got this "genius idea" on how to solve the spam problem (and it might work for residential users that get infected with mail-sending-viruses) - but to turn that into money extortion game... really, really lame.
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I'll skip the part that I've actually waited over a month to get Internet up and running... the thing that finally pissed me off is that they block port 25 by default and then require you to pay "special fee" in order to unblock that. I understand why they block it in the first place - OK, somebody in management got this "genius idea" on how to solve the spam problem (and it might work for residential users that get infected with mail-sending-viruses) - but to turn that into money extortion game... really, really lame.
over priced and never helpful.
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I'll skip the part that I've actually waited over a month to get Internet up and running... the thing that finally pissed me off is that they block port 25 by default and then require you to pay "special fee" in order to unblock that. I understand why they block it in the first place - OK, somebody in management got this "genius idea" on how to solve the spam problem (and it might work for residential users that get infected with mail-sending-viruses) - but to turn that into money extortion game... really, really lame.
If they block a port then they are not selling internet access, they are selling something different and should advertise as a different thing. I want my internet full, with all its ports :laugh:
-- Si dos montan un caballo, uno debe ir detrás.
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I'll skip the part that I've actually waited over a month to get Internet up and running... the thing that finally pissed me off is that they block port 25 by default and then require you to pay "special fee" in order to unblock that. I understand why they block it in the first place - OK, somebody in management got this "genius idea" on how to solve the spam problem (and it might work for residential users that get infected with mail-sending-viruses) - but to turn that into money extortion game... really, really lame.
Why you need to put up with the AT&T internet in a first place? Don’t you have Comcast, Verizon etc. in your area?
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I'll skip the part that I've actually waited over a month to get Internet up and running... the thing that finally pissed me off is that they block port 25 by default and then require you to pay "special fee" in order to unblock that. I understand why they block it in the first place - OK, somebody in management got this "genius idea" on how to solve the spam problem (and it might work for residential users that get infected with mail-sending-viruses) - but to turn that into money extortion game... really, really lame.
Comcast does the same. I believe verizon did as well.
John
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If they block a port then they are not selling internet access, they are selling something different and should advertise as a different thing. I want my internet full, with all its ports :laugh:
-- Si dos montan un caballo, uno debe ir detrás.
I know that Comcast does the same and I believe when I had verizon they did as well. Most ISPs tell you for residential internet service you are not permitted to run servers (mail, http, ftp ... ) of any kind. If you want to run servers you will need a business account.
John
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I know that Comcast does the same and I believe when I had verizon they did as well. Most ISPs tell you for residential internet service you are not permitted to run servers (mail, http, ftp ... ) of any kind. If you want to run servers you will need a business account.
John
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I know that Comcast does the same and I believe when I had verizon they did as well. Most ISPs tell you for residential internet service you are not permitted to run servers (mail, http, ftp ... ) of any kind. If you want to run servers you will need a business account.
John
And, by the way, it's not that I'm running SMTP server on my end - I can't connect to any remote SMTP server. You use smtp.gmail.com to send your email? Well, screw you... use web browser instead.
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over priced and never helpful.
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And, by the way, it's not that I'm running SMTP server on my end - I can't connect to any remote SMTP server. You use smtp.gmail.com to send your email? Well, screw you... use web browser instead.
This link seems to say use port 465 or 587 http://techblissonline.com/gmail-smtp/[^]
John
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Yeah, they tell you that and it is complete BS. I can't wait for the day when they say - oh, so you want to use HTTP with your Internet account? Well, then you need to open "web browsing" type of account...
The reasons are generally to limit upstream bandwidth, reduce the chance of their customers from being hacked or infected with a virus / worm, limit outgoing spam, and to make money.
John
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I'm just sorry I haven't ran into your wise advice advice before I signed up with them ;)
me too! :( damn iPhone...
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Yeah, they tell you that and it is complete BS. I can't wait for the day when they say - oh, so you want to use HTTP with your Internet account? Well, then you need to open "web browsing" type of account...
Actually, it's not BS. They don't want Joe Blow Average running servers from home because 99 time sout of 100, the server won't be properly secured. They'r trying to protect their other users. I have AT&T and I pay for a block of static IPs, which allows me to run servers. BTW, I don't think AT&T has a EUA that specifically states that you can't run a server, but it's a bit of a hassle to do when you have a single dynamic IP instead of five static ones.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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I'll skip the part that I've actually waited over a month to get Internet up and running... the thing that finally pissed me off is that they block port 25 by default and then require you to pay "special fee" in order to unblock that. I understand why they block it in the first place - OK, somebody in management got this "genius idea" on how to solve the spam problem (and it might work for residential users that get infected with mail-sending-viruses) - but to turn that into money extortion game... really, really lame.
Predrag Tomasevic wrote:
I'll skip the part that I've actually waited over a month to get Internet up and running
I read past that on first read...yeah there customer service sucks. I worked for a huge company and they dropped the in-house telephony dept. and took on AT&T and support went from 1hr-1day to 2 weeks - never.
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And, by the way, it's not that I'm running SMTP server on my end - I can't connect to any remote SMTP server. You use smtp.gmail.com to send your email? Well, screw you... use web browser instead.
You can do it, you just have to use the mechanism they provide.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I'll skip the part that I've actually waited over a month to get Internet up and running... the thing that finally pissed me off is that they block port 25 by default and then require you to pay "special fee" in order to unblock that. I understand why they block it in the first place - OK, somebody in management got this "genius idea" on how to solve the spam problem (and it might work for residential users that get infected with mail-sending-viruses) - but to turn that into money extortion game... really, really lame.
I canceled U-Verse for Comcast and canceled wireless for Sprint and I could not be happier with the decision.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost
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This link seems to say use port 465 or 587 http://techblissonline.com/gmail-smtp/[^]
John
... The point is not that I can't make it work... I've setup VPN that allows me to bypass their stupid restriction and am currently sending emails using port 25 (because SMTP server I'm connecting only uses that port and no, it's not Gmail). The point is that people will sign up with AT&T and accept idiotic restrictions (or try to compromise like you did by saying "meh, others do it also"). The point is - it's stupid - accepting that somebody is selling you Internet access and then blocking you from using a service that is essential component of Internet access. Again, how would you feel if you paid for Internet access and then found out that you can access YouTube - because it consumes too much bandwidth? That sounds OK?
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Actually, it's not BS. They don't want Joe Blow Average running servers from home because 99 time sout of 100, the server won't be properly secured. They'r trying to protect their other users. I have AT&T and I pay for a block of static IPs, which allows me to run servers. BTW, I don't think AT&T has a EUA that specifically states that you can't run a server, but it's a bit of a hassle to do when you have a single dynamic IP instead of five static ones.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
They'r trying to protect their other users.
Yeah, right... they are so nice. Allow me to drop a tear for their sweetness - :(( If you want to believe that - fine man, it's your choice, but don't tell that it's not complete BS when it is. The only reason they are doing it is because their are money grabbing _____ (paste your favorite term). And while we are on that subject, speaking of static IPs you are paying for - try http://dyndns.org
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You can do it, you just have to use the mechanism they provide.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I canceled U-Verse for Comcast and canceled wireless for Sprint and I could not be happier with the decision.
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost