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  • M Maximilien

    bad idea ... never tell your boss you want to work for less money !!!! EVER!!!

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    crocks256
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    I agree (ironically) but overall, its less Cost to him rather than less money for me from what I am seeing.

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    • D Dalek Dave

      Absolutely fine. I shall be at home all evening, so ask away. If I can help, I am happy to do so.

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      moon_stick
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      Maybe I should get in too before DD hikes his rates!! :)

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      • C crocks256

        Firstly, is this a feasiable idea? The company which currently employes me, is looking to save money (arent we all). Me and my partner have came up with this interesting idea which will also free us up to sell and move house as well.. Basically The idea I am thinking, is "Outsourcing my job".... to "Myself". I am considering proposing to my boss that he outsources my job to myself at a slightly lower rate (as I will be working from home etc) this would free me up to pursure other contracts and get my business up and running. its a winner for the company as it would save them money, they know me and how good I am, and its a winner for me for the reasons listed above. It gets me off the companies books from a point of view of saving money on payroll etc.. Does this sound feasable to anyone? How can I approach my boss with this idea? Can anyone think of any hurdles to this idea? JC

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        Lost User
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        bearing in mind that the actual costs of employing you as a FTE may be up to 2.5 times your salary, I wouldn't suggest a reduction in pay at all, as by contracting you will reduce the costs immediately (they save in all the resources you'd normally use, any payroll tax, superannuation etc. depending on your local laws) and you lose by no longer having paid leave - If you work (say) 200 days per year then your daily rate needs to be 1/200 your required income. And you need to add on any superannuation contributions you may be required to make, and insurance you may need, etc. depending on the boss, I'd make it seem like his idea... you know. "Hmmmm, if only there was some way of reducing my costs to the company" "Pity we couldn't find a contractor with my knowledge of the systems" etc.

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        • C crocks256

          I agree (ironically) but overall, its less Cost to him rather than less money for me from what I am seeing.

          -------------------------------------------------- John Crocker

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          Maximilien
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          Yeah, maybe, but how will you profit by helping your boss make more money? will he raise your salary in the future ?

          Watched code never compiles.

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          • C crocks256

            Firstly, is this a feasiable idea? The company which currently employes me, is looking to save money (arent we all). Me and my partner have came up with this interesting idea which will also free us up to sell and move house as well.. Basically The idea I am thinking, is "Outsourcing my job".... to "Myself". I am considering proposing to my boss that he outsources my job to myself at a slightly lower rate (as I will be working from home etc) this would free me up to pursure other contracts and get my business up and running. its a winner for the company as it would save them money, they know me and how good I am, and its a winner for me for the reasons listed above. It gets me off the companies books from a point of view of saving money on payroll etc.. Does this sound feasable to anyone? How can I approach my boss with this idea? Can anyone think of any hurdles to this idea? JC

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            Joan M
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            Following the others comments (who are more than right) you could propose to stay at home and to continue receiving money from the company. You could reduce a little bit your current salary as you stay at home and you are not moving yourself each day to the company. HTH!

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            • C crocks256

              Firstly, is this a feasiable idea? The company which currently employes me, is looking to save money (arent we all). Me and my partner have came up with this interesting idea which will also free us up to sell and move house as well.. Basically The idea I am thinking, is "Outsourcing my job".... to "Myself". I am considering proposing to my boss that he outsources my job to myself at a slightly lower rate (as I will be working from home etc) this would free me up to pursure other contracts and get my business up and running. its a winner for the company as it would save them money, they know me and how good I am, and its a winner for me for the reasons listed above. It gets me off the companies books from a point of view of saving money on payroll etc.. Does this sound feasable to anyone? How can I approach my boss with this idea? Can anyone think of any hurdles to this idea? JC

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              That's what my last employer did when they laid me off. As my project was in maintenance mode with ever fewer bugs to remove and features to add they decided that they didn't need to keep me on for forty hours a week. But certainly not at a lower hourly rate, at a higher one, I just worked many fewer hours for them.

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              • M Maximilien

                Yeah, maybe, but how will you profit by helping your boss make more money? will he raise your salary in the future ?

                Watched code never compiles.

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                crocks256
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                My Salary here hasnt rose for 3 yrs.... Pay freeze and all that. I have also had no pension contributions for that period as well.

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                • C crocks256

                  Firstly, is this a feasiable idea? The company which currently employes me, is looking to save money (arent we all). Me and my partner have came up with this interesting idea which will also free us up to sell and move house as well.. Basically The idea I am thinking, is "Outsourcing my job".... to "Myself". I am considering proposing to my boss that he outsources my job to myself at a slightly lower rate (as I will be working from home etc) this would free me up to pursure other contracts and get my business up and running. its a winner for the company as it would save them money, they know me and how good I am, and its a winner for me for the reasons listed above. It gets me off the companies books from a point of view of saving money on payroll etc.. Does this sound feasable to anyone? How can I approach my boss with this idea? Can anyone think of any hurdles to this idea? JC

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                  Ger Hayden
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                  Very, but you loose your employment protection.

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                  • C crocks256

                    Firstly, is this a feasiable idea? The company which currently employes me, is looking to save money (arent we all). Me and my partner have came up with this interesting idea which will also free us up to sell and move house as well.. Basically The idea I am thinking, is "Outsourcing my job".... to "Myself". I am considering proposing to my boss that he outsources my job to myself at a slightly lower rate (as I will be working from home etc) this would free me up to pursure other contracts and get my business up and running. its a winner for the company as it would save them money, they know me and how good I am, and its a winner for me for the reasons listed above. It gets me off the companies books from a point of view of saving money on payroll etc.. Does this sound feasable to anyone? How can I approach my boss with this idea? Can anyone think of any hurdles to this idea? JC

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                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                    Until your boss realizes he can then outsource to India and multiply you by 3! Also, don't forget to check out my contractor rate calculator. (Search the web, I am number one on Google, usually) It will tell you what to charge,.

                    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      Until your boss realizes he can then outsource to India and multiply you by 3! Also, don't forget to check out my contractor rate calculator. (Search the web, I am number one on Google, usually) It will tell you what to charge,.

                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. I also do Android Programming as I find it a refreshing break from the MS. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      Link?

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