Sarah Palin, Sock Puppet
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Majerus wrote:
I wonder how hard it would be to actually emigrate to Canada.
I don't think it is that difficult. People have been doing it now for several centuries. ;P
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
Chris Meech wrote:
I don't think it is that difficult. People have been doing it now for several centuries.
Swap you Majerus for a tenth round draft pick in 2013 and a bat boy. ;)
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken
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Chris Meech wrote:
I don't think it is that difficult. People have been doing it now for several centuries.
Swap you Majerus for a tenth round draft pick in 2013 and a bat boy. ;)
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken
Oakman wrote:
tenth round draft pick in 2013
Which draft? Baseball, Basketball, Football or Hockey? Oh and does they bat boy need to bring his own bats? :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
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Oakman wrote:
tenth round draft pick in 2013
Which draft? Baseball, Basketball, Football or Hockey? Oh and does they bat boy need to bring his own bats? :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
Chris Meech wrote:
Which draft? Baseball, Basketball, Football or Hockey?
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Chris Meech wrote:
Oh and does they bat boy need to bring his own bats?
Nope. Just his own Ruben[^]
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” ~ H.L. Mencken
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I agree that the rate needs to go up... I just think bumping it up to 70% is a recipe for disaster... Figure out how much it NEEDS to go up in order to give us a usable budget surplus, and stop there. Make them pay a fair share (Fair = More then average), but don't take 70% or 90% of their income... Otherwise you remove the incentive for being rich, and just encourage them to look harder for loopholes (Which will never go away, because our politicians are too corrupt).
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
70% is a recipe for disaster... Figure out how much it NEEDS to go up in order to give us a usable budget surplus, and stop there.
I'm, unfortunately, of two minds on this because there is something to be said for it being a recipe for disaster. I don't know. It's incredibly hard to get to the facts and truth of the matter. I don't have the complete answer in my mind.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
don't take 70% or 90% of their income... Otherwise you remove the incentive for being rich, and just encourage them to look harder for loopholes
To be quite honest being rich is a stupid waste of resources and power. It's an illusion that everyone has a chance of being rich. From what I can tell every good thing rich people do is to make themselves look good and get people to ignore the disparity and inequality they create through capitalistic ways rather then democratic ones.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
(Which will never go away, because our politicians are too corrupt).
I have a very dim outlook on humanity. While there are great things humanity has accomplished, going to the moon for example. Most of the time its been about money and power for a few at the expense of the many. The electorate is both stupid and corrupt itself thus the majority representation we have.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Let me join you in ranting. :)
wolfbinary wrote:
Americans don't want to have to pay for what they use
To some extent that may be true. But take a look at these graphs at Mother Jones[^] Income and wealth are grotesquely concentrated at the very top. Of course many people don't want to see there taxes rise - most of the taxable income is at the very top! Under Reagan payroll taxes went up on the middle class and at the same time it was capped for the rich. Just another transfer of wealth from the middle class to the rich. With the Bush (and now Obama) tax cuts - most people saw very little tax relief, but again, the wealthy saw massive reductions on their tax bills. So I am in agreement - taxes for the middle class don't need to increase - but it does need to increase on the wealthy.
That doesn't surprise me.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
70% is a recipe for disaster... Figure out how much it NEEDS to go up in order to give us a usable budget surplus, and stop there.
I'm, unfortunately, of two minds on this because there is something to be said for it being a recipe for disaster. I don't know. It's incredibly hard to get to the facts and truth of the matter. I don't have the complete answer in my mind.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
don't take 70% or 90% of their income... Otherwise you remove the incentive for being rich, and just encourage them to look harder for loopholes
To be quite honest being rich is a stupid waste of resources and power. It's an illusion that everyone has a chance of being rich. From what I can tell every good thing rich people do is to make themselves look good and get people to ignore the disparity and inequality they create through capitalistic ways rather then democratic ones.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
(Which will never go away, because our politicians are too corrupt).
I have a very dim outlook on humanity. While there are great things humanity has accomplished, going to the moon for example. Most of the time its been about money and power for a few at the expense of the many. The electorate is both stupid and corrupt itself thus the majority representation we have.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
wolfbinary wrote:
To be quite honest being rich is a stupid waste of resources and power. It's an illusion that everyone has a chance of being rich. From what I can tell every good thing rich people do is to make themselves look good and get people to ignore the disparity and inequality they create through capitalistic ways rather then democratic ones.
Yes, but that illusion is what drives many people to succeed... Entrepreneurs, inventors, etc...
wolfbinary wrote:
Most of the time its been about money and power for a few at the expense of the many. The electorate is both stupid and corrupt itself thus the majority representation we have.
Wish I could disagree, but... yeah.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
wolfbinary wrote:
To be quite honest being rich is a stupid waste of resources and power. It's an illusion that everyone has a chance of being rich. From what I can tell every good thing rich people do is to make themselves look good and get people to ignore the disparity and inequality they create through capitalistic ways rather then democratic ones.
Yes, but that illusion is what drives many people to succeed... Entrepreneurs, inventors, etc...
wolfbinary wrote:
Most of the time its been about money and power for a few at the expense of the many. The electorate is both stupid and corrupt itself thus the majority representation we have.
Wish I could disagree, but... yeah.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
Yes, but that illusion is what drives many people to succeed... Entrepreneurs, inventors, etc.
I don't put inventors and entrepreneurs in the same group because those two behaviors aren't necessarily linked. Like I said I don't hold many positives for people. Entrepreneurs aren't really interested in making anything other than money. The phrase "It's nothing personal just business." comes to mind to describe them. Think of the Wall Street bailouts. I'm pretty sure that we're going to have another great depression or worse because nothing's been done. The only thing keeping people on Wall Street from inventing another bubble is their collective conscience and they don't have one. There will have to be a depression before people can stop being so stupid and to believe Wall Street is a casino. There's no such thing as a necessary evil, just a convenient one for people to believe in so they can go on about their lives in bliss. But there I go ranting again. Too much news I suppose, but then again I don't want to be lied to again. Have you heard of Scott Walker getting punked by an editor of a newspaper. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/23/scott-walker-buffalo-beast-phone-prank_n_827058.html[^]
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
