Browsers
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
I find Chrome startup very fast (faster than FF) but I only have FireBug as an extension. IE8 is fine, but boring, and IE9 really, really irritates me. I simply cannot use it as my main browser anymore. Just give me back the dedicated search box, or make search from address work sensibly and I'm good. FireFox is my old trusted standby simply because Firebug works far better in it than in Chrome, and IE's dev tools are awful. I used to be excited by new browsers but they've all hit the level of uniform boringness. Safari is just an annoying wrapper for Webkit (which role Chrome handles perfectly) and I just don't see the point of Opera.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
Chrome. Because it's not IE.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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I find Chrome startup very fast (faster than FF) but I only have FireBug as an extension. IE8 is fine, but boring, and IE9 really, really irritates me. I simply cannot use it as my main browser anymore. Just give me back the dedicated search box, or make search from address work sensibly and I'm good. FireFox is my old trusted standby simply because Firebug works far better in it than in Chrome, and IE's dev tools are awful. I used to be excited by new browsers but they've all hit the level of uniform boringness. Safari is just an annoying wrapper for Webkit (which role Chrome handles perfectly) and I just don't see the point of Opera.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I just don't see the point of Opera
You don't like singing either? :laugh:
"I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
on windows i use opera as its fast and stable. i also rarely have compatibility issues with it anymore. on linux i use firefox. when i used to use it on windows it was terribly slow, often taking three minutes to start up, but on linux its fairly quick and stable. it is a bit slower to start up than I'd like and you do get the occasional crash, but it's not bad enough for me to bother installing a new browser. i tried chrome a while back (on windows), but while it was fast i didn't particularly like its UI. maybe its improved since then, but i haven't tried it in a while though. i was thinking about installing it on my linux system in place of firefox. i practically never use IE now, having stopped using it years ago. whenever i do use it its always very laggy.
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on windows i use opera as its fast and stable. i also rarely have compatibility issues with it anymore. on linux i use firefox. when i used to use it on windows it was terribly slow, often taking three minutes to start up, but on linux its fairly quick and stable. it is a bit slower to start up than I'd like and you do get the occasional crash, but it's not bad enough for me to bother installing a new browser. i tried chrome a while back (on windows), but while it was fast i didn't particularly like its UI. maybe its improved since then, but i haven't tried it in a while though. i was thinking about installing it on my linux system in place of firefox. i practically never use IE now, having stopped using it years ago. whenever i do use it its always very laggy.
One of the features I like best in Opera is Ctrl + Z. How I wish that this was built into FF. Yes, compatibility has gotten better of late. But Javascript still has issues, especially menus that depend on JS and also some postback events that have complicated JS behind them.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
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I find Chrome startup very fast (faster than FF) but I only have FireBug as an extension. IE8 is fine, but boring, and IE9 really, really irritates me. I simply cannot use it as my main browser anymore. Just give me back the dedicated search box, or make search from address work sensibly and I'm good. FireFox is my old trusted standby simply because Firebug works far better in it than in Chrome, and IE's dev tools are awful. I used to be excited by new browsers but they've all hit the level of uniform boringness. Safari is just an annoying wrapper for Webkit (which role Chrome handles perfectly) and I just don't see the point of Opera.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I used to be excited by new browsers but they've all hit the level of uniform boringness
That's true. What's strange about this is that I thought everything's getting more web centric these days. It's sad to see that browser wars these days are mostly about getting more market share rather than bringing out innovation.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I used to be excited by new browsers but they've all hit the level of uniform boringness
That's true. What's strange about this is that I thought everything's getting more web centric these days. It's sad to see that browser wars these days are mostly about getting more market share rather than bringing out innovation.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
SimulationofSai wrote:
bringing out innovation
All I care about is a browser that works and is fast and displays W3C standards correctly. Innovation can come from third party extensions.
"I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." Einstein "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." Mark Twain
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
IE9: Never tried the others... it is enough for me as it works well.
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I find Chrome startup very fast (faster than FF) but I only have FireBug as an extension. IE8 is fine, but boring, and IE9 really, really irritates me. I simply cannot use it as my main browser anymore. Just give me back the dedicated search box, or make search from address work sensibly and I'm good. FireFox is my old trusted standby simply because Firebug works far better in it than in Chrome, and IE's dev tools are awful. I used to be excited by new browsers but they've all hit the level of uniform boringness. Safari is just an annoying wrapper for Webkit (which role Chrome handles perfectly) and I just don't see the point of Opera.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
There is a Chrome Firebug? First time I've known about it. I use FF for FireBug, and Chrome for all browsing.
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
ie is always my preferred web browser. To me all the others feel basic and un-intuative, especially when it comes to navigating and using my favourites and history (which I have permanently pinned to my side). I have all the others on my system as I'm a web developer but in my view having tried the others for ages I keep coming back to ie. and use the others for testing.
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I find Chrome startup very fast (faster than FF) but I only have FireBug as an extension. IE8 is fine, but boring, and IE9 really, really irritates me. I simply cannot use it as my main browser anymore. Just give me back the dedicated search box, or make search from address work sensibly and I'm good. FireFox is my old trusted standby simply because Firebug works far better in it than in Chrome, and IE's dev tools are awful. I used to be excited by new browsers but they've all hit the level of uniform boringness. Safari is just an annoying wrapper for Webkit (which role Chrome handles perfectly) and I just don't see the point of Opera.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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One of the features I like best in Opera is Ctrl + Z. How I wish that this was built into FF. Yes, compatibility has gotten better of late. But Javascript still has issues, especially menus that depend on JS and also some postback events that have complicated JS behind them.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
Chrome for me at the moment is the best, it's fast, intuitive and stays out of my way. Plus the chrome developer tools are fast becoming my favourite. FireFox is still a great browser and I have been trying out the new version 4 beta, Firebug is amazing and its extensions seem limitless. Opera is for me usually a little to sluggish for me and does a bit too much, it likes to remind me that it's there and I don't like programs that do that really. Lynx, although I don't use it often it really is great for getting info off the web when accessing a headless server. IE, well, it sucks. I spend so much of my time as a developer dealing with shit that IE throws at me and all because they simply can not be bothered to follow standards. If IE were an animal it would have been put down a long time ago.
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
I used IE for years but when they changed the UI a few years ago it seemed like everything was in the wrong place. I switched to FF and never looked back. Same goes for Chrome and Opera. I prefer an old-fashioned UI. My teenaged nephew swears by the Maxthon[^] browser. I'd never heard of it until he mentioned it one day. According to Maxthon's website, it's:
The only browser designed for the whole web. Dual display engines (powered by Trident and Webkit) and the web's fastest Javascript engine (V8) make every website sing
Everybody SHUT UP until I finish my coffee...
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There is a Chrome Firebug? First time I've known about it. I use FF for FireBug, and Chrome for all browsing.
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
I use Opera, Chrome and IE. Opera for daily browsing and emails: - All in one integrated and fast browser - Highly configurable - Author / user mode (some web pages are so barely readable... With one click in the Opera toolbar, they are cleaned) - Commercial blocker or animation blocker - Lots of other small things that I learned to love with the time (around 10 years of daily use), like shortcuts, mouse movements, and small trick functions. - Very nice integrated email client - Nice (revolutionary) email management - Spam filter that works - nice search function that finds emails or contacts, unlike Outlook. - Enables me and my family members to download our respective emails on several PCs. It uses a configurable period before it deletes the already downloaded emails by my provider. I set the period to two weeks. - I have around 10 years of email history in it, without any quirks. - Integrated newsreader. A nice one (I have seen and used several not so good ones). - Integrated NNTP. Also a nice one. - Opera can synchronize my bookmarks between several PCs (same principle as DropBox), or other parameters like the speed dial, history, notes, etc. Note that Opera cannot synchronize the contacts, which I miss. I don't like the standard Opera skin. I use the WinVista MSOffice2007 skin. Chrome I use it only for Web development with VS2010. ASPx pages load fast, and I can easily debug the javascript in Chrome. Although I may use the Opera JavaScript debugger. IE8 I use it for compatibility reasons, because most of the web sites work with it. I use it also for Web development, but only to debug in VS. I use it the least possible, because it is slow. FF I have no use for this.
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
I use IE, FF, Chrome and Rockmelt. IE is only good for downloading other browsers. Chrome is the mainstay for bumping around the net finding tidits to assist me in my efforts at work. FF is good for picking up the few websites that aren't chrome compatible. Rockmelt is my personal favorite for use at home. It allows me to follow RSS Feeds, Twitter, FB etc. all while being unobtrusive. It definitely pushes innovation. Plus the newest version (invite only at this point) supports Chrome Apps/Plugins.
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I've been using Chrome since it's beta and although it's not the only browser I use ( I have Firefox, Chrome and Opera open most of the time, and IE open if I want to browse through my corporate intranet ), it's the slowest of the lot to wake up from a slumber. As with most developers, I switch between IDE's and other windows constantly and have tens of applications running continuously. If, after say an hour of using VS and other applications, I switch to Chrome, there's this loooong grinding of the HDD, plain white windows and an antiquated time piece displayed. Yes, Firefox also does this, but not for long, and once it gets over the initial slumber, I can switch between tabs without further page faults. But in Chrome, every tab I refocus on will cause a HDD grind. So I did a little observation using Process monitor and Chrome registers a large number of page faults. Interestingly, both Chrome and FF have the same set of extensions installed. Yes, I understand that the code differs and also the way extensions are managed. My machine is not express fast, but it's not bad either. It's an I7 dual core with 4 GB RAM. There was a thread earlier about a FF memory leak. I did check if I had the same problem, but was not sure because I saw no apparent increase in memory usage over time, with the same set of tabs left open. But then, I've updated to the latest version now. Maybe because Chrome creates a separate process for each tab and extension, there's more work to be done to reload it once it gets paged. I'm really disappointed with Chrome though. The only reason I use it is because it starts up much faster than other browsers ( Opera included ) and is useful if I want to quickly check something before I have to run off to a meeting or something. FF, for me, especially after the introduction of the plugin-container has been solid and stable. It's not blazing fast and takes forever to start up, but that's acceptable. I used to be a big fan of Opera and still am, but compatibility issues are irritating. I open up a site in Opera only to find that it looks weird and have to waste further time opening that link in FF. So the question, which browser do you people use primarily? And for what reason? Anyone agree/disagree that Chrome was hyped a little too much and delivered a little too little.
SG Aham Brahmasmi!
I use Internet Explorer in general (even this moment). I am using it for a long time now, since it was the light and fast alternative to Netscape which was the slow and ugly Goliath. But let me try to understand something. So, apparently some people performed tests, did some research and which browser won, that is what they decide to use. Are you telling me that if you are a Chrome user now and tomorrow Internet Explorer becomes better by 1% than Chrome are you going to switch to IE? Why are not people admitting that there's a lot of subjectivity and there's a bond between most of us and our preferred browser even when it is in the last place. I don't give a crap about IE being 5% slower when it starts if later it is the browser where it is the easiest for me to find my way through its menus and options. If something doesn't work I use Chrome or Firefox and sometimes Opera. The truth is that today every developer needs at least two or sometimes three browsers and I mean for browsing, not for testing. On the other hand I am thinking about the fact that we could have been in the situation to have to choose one browser because we did not have enough money to buy two or three. Maybe it should have stayed that way as it may have encouraged innovation as somebody rightly complained. So, your browser may be better than mine but not from my perspective for sure. Cheers,
giuchici
