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    ...Among many things go back and excise Star Wars from history and replace it with just about *any* of the excellent science fiction novels written to that point. Maybe convince George to do Left hand of Darkness or The Stars My destination or Starship Troopers or The Forever War (or each in turn) instead with the same resources.


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    My vote goes for Stephen Donaldson's Gap series. I don't normally like his long winded style, but the cut-throatedness and a-moralness of it all just got to me. And bonus points for not attempting to explain the Sci Fi aspects, but just lived it instead.

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    • I Ian Shlasko

      I'm curious as to why Elijah Bailey and Robinette Broadhead haven't made it to the big screen yet... And on the fantasy side, I'd love to see Thomas Covenant or Stile up there... (Wonder if anyone will understand all four references there...)

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      Thomas Convenant - I think I'd actually like that. So long as they compact it into a digestible length. If they took it direct from the book, I think it would be 4 movies of 6 hours each, with 5.5 hours of each movie just looking at landscapes in super slow motion :)

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        Thomas Convenant - I think I'd actually like that. So long as they compact it into a digestible length. If they took it direct from the book, I think it would be 4 movies of 6 hours each, with 5.5 hours of each movie just looking at landscapes in super slow motion :)

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        Haha, so true... But what about a TV series? Like on HBO, so it has a real budget and doesn't censor (Though they might go a little too far at one point during the first book, if you know what I mean)... One season per book, just like True Blood does

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          ...Among many things go back and excise Star Wars from history and replace it with just about *any* of the excellent science fiction novels written to that point. Maybe convince George to do Left hand of Darkness or The Stars My destination or Starship Troopers or The Forever War (or each in turn) instead with the same resources.


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          Would love to see The Forever War made into a movie, and anything by Niven+Pournelle+-Barnes would also kick ass, specifically Lucifer's Hammer, Footfall and Legacy of Heorot.


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            John C wrote:

            ...Among many things go back and excise Star Wars from history and replace it with just about *any* of the excellent science fiction novels written to that point.

            George Lucas wasn't interested in making that kind of movie though. He wanted a romping adventure in space, which he figured technology would allow him to do. The original film was a nearly perfect execution in classic storytelling; the universe was still pretty shallow at that point, really, and it didn't matter. It was great fun. And I think George Lucas did know the difference between what he was doing and something like Left Hand of Darkness. Hell, he gave us THX-1138, which I would put way up there as good, hard core sci-fi, and in a completely different category than Star Wars. Most of the good sci-fi I've read is unfilmable, as it gets so complex that there's simply no way to do it justice. The Foundation or Robot series may be distilled down to some essential components, but I have zero faith that Hollywood would do them justice. (Hell, look at I, Robot.) Right now I'm reading (well, listening to) Pandora's Star and enjoying it immensely. It would be a catastrophe of a movie, it's a gigantic premise with so many interlocking parts that to leave anything out would turn it into something else completely. And I will once again go on record as saying I love Star Wars, including the prequels, though the prequels do frustrate me at times. I think they are actually a brilliant premise, but the execution fell short in places. Still, I enjoy them as the most expensive independent films ever made, and they are beautiful to look at. I keep hoping Lucas will do as he said he would and get back to some experimental projects (along the lines of THX-1138). I doubt that will happen now though.


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            David Kentley wrote:

            Right now I'm reading (well, listening to) Pandora's Star and enjoying it immensely. It would be a catastrophe of a movie, it's a gigantic premise with so many interlocking parts that to leave anything out would turn it into something else completely.

            Many novels written in the last 30 or so years have the same problem. A tv/movie script is roughly one page/minute, and while you can cut down a fair amount there are limits to everything. It's very hard to make an excellent movie from a novel more than 400ish pages long or a decent one from one that's more than 600. Once you get to 700 or 800 you can more or less forget it unless you're planning at least 4 hours of video.

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            • I Ian Shlasko

              I'm curious as to why Elijah Bailey and Robinette Broadhead haven't made it to the big screen yet... And on the fantasy side, I'd love to see Thomas Covenant or Stile up there... (Wonder if anyone will understand all four references there...)

              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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              Covenant, of course. But not because I ever read the book. Or did I? I might have. But Broadhead? I went to High School with the author's son. :laugh:

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